"twoofer"

Originally posted by zorgon
Next time ask that person if they still use those pacifiers

Which sets back intelligent discussion 1 more post.

That kind of ego-animal response is exactly the kind of discussion these same people are TRYING to instigate. On the other hand, SOME of us are trying to talk about something that is very important to ALL of us.

Originally posted by bsbray11On the other hand, SOME of us are trying to talk about something that is very important to ALL of us.

AH Well I wouldn't know anything about that

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I agree. It all comes down to personal responsibility while posting.

-@Zorgon, god luv ya, but the retort is just continuing the travel down the wrong route. And the picture says to me "cute girl, I wonder if she has the pacifier for that Ex (Ectasy) party later on". Seeing as how any adult with a pacifier is propagating that message. There is no other reason. So, technically, that's a drug reference. See? It's a fine line.

Just pointing out the obvious (or not, maybe?).

Cuhail

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Even TALKING about Censoring is Censored
, Scroll Up and try to find that post.... you can't because It's Gone

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I quote...

Mod Note : U2U Messages are not to be posted in public.

Terms and Conditions of use

2f.) Private Messages: You will not use the private messaging system (U2U) to send mass messages to multiple member accounts. All private messages are subject to these terms and conditions, violations will result in immediate account termination. You also agree that "U2Us" (Private Messages) are confidential. You will not post or publically display U2Us received from ATS staff or any other members, in any way, without the written permission of the author. The Owners, at their discretion, may review the content of your private (U2U) messages when, and only when, complaints are received from the recipient(s) of your messages.

(Bolded by Cuhail)

Again, you don't stop to read the rules we all agreed to at registration. It's not censorship, it;'s you refusing to abide by the rules YOU AGREED TO.

You need to read more of what you argue about.

Cuhail

Originally posted by Cuhail
Just pointing out the obvious (or not, maybe?).

Hmmm I see your point (or maybe not) With all the promotion of ATS on twitter I find it hard to take twoother insults seriously... How come no one stops the serious abuse? Want a list of what I have been called here?



There is no way we will ever stop the insults... you can ban a thousand... but in a month another new crop will show up

Best way is of course to just NOT ANSWER back... go on to the next post...

BUT that is not always possible, because sometimes you just have to strike back... it's human nature

Only thing is the 'regulars' are expected to play nice... so all you have as a tool is a witty reply that makes others laugh. If you return the nasty... that HAMMER hits hard and fast...

@ Nobody in particular: It's meant to get a reaction out of you and get you arguing aimlessly about the nonsense that comes from your reaction. Stop reacting to it and eventually it will go away.

Not only is it a lesson in this particular case, it's a life lesson.

Peace

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I'm glad you understood my point. I am a fan of your posts Zorgy and you are a classy poster.
My issue isn't so much with the deleting of posts after the fact. I am constantly urging my fellow ATSers to take some personal responsibility in what they post. Resorting to calling people derogatory names shows a lack of certain qualities that really are needed to truly forward a threads topic.
If you have no argument on topic, don't try. Resorting to bad tactics doesn't help the topic and here at ATS (and you KNOW this Zorgon), it's more important to stay on topic than anywhere else we go on the web.
We forward and share our interests, informations and theories and try to back them up with facts and data. Personal attacks, whether in name-calling form (Noob, sheeple, Twoofer, etc) or grouping (Neo-con, Socialist etc as a derogatory weapon) take the subject from the topic and place it elsewhere.
It's been this way since 2003 when I started reading ATS to 2005 when I signed up to 2009 and beyond. It has to be the individual posters that take on this responsibility. They don't, so, the site has Moderators that are forced to try and keep up with all the infractions. Then, when they are FORCED to take care of them, ignorant posters (like above) get all bent out of shape because they didn't read the rules and got reprimanded.

Like I always say. Post with Class. (Which you constantly do, Zorgon, I got no beef with you, my friend) Post with intent. And (this always helps me) post like your Grandmother is reading over your shoulder. ATS can be pure positive info, regardless of the topic or the lean of every poster.

Cuhail
(I do, wholeheartedly, understand I am speaking of a Utopian ATS )

Originally posted by Dr Love
@ Nobody in particular: It's meant to get a reaction out of you and get you arguing aimlessly about the nonsense that comes from your reaction. Stop reacting to it and eventually it will go away.

Not only is it a lesson in this particular case, it's a life lesson.

Peace

That goes without saying, Doc. Of course it's meant to drag a reaction to the insult and not to the topic. It's always been a way to attack without facts. I just wish more people would recognize it before they react and reply to it.

I also see this as a pointless argument. I know the word won't be banned, but, the intent behind it can be possibly nullified with deletion soon after. (Re-Alert! Button usage by members)

Cuhail

I would just use "Debbie" and be done with it.

Pretty harmless, both of them... Shows the LACK of having any game or fact based retort (as Cuhail astutely points out) but, we are a public forum after all and anyone can register and comment.

mark...

Originally posted by Springer
Pretty harmless, both of them... Shows the LACK of having any game or fact based retort

Which in turn shows the complete lack of any intelligent debate in the 9/11 forums.

But that really is the case today -- you either buy it, or you don't. It's no longer about who has the facts, it's about what you WANT to believe. Both "sides" have their "facts."

I continue to try to push reasoning on people, but there is no end to the people who already think they have heard it all, who have turned off their "thinking caps," that are now just loaded with insults to hurl.

The game will always go on, though...

When I grew up we would have been laughed at and made fun of for letting something as silly as being called a "twoofer" even get to us.

In the states they don't let kids be kids anymore, so by the time they're adults they can't handle little things like being called stupid names. They tattle on the name caller instead of just ignoring it because its all they know how to do.

Used to be that if a co worker called me a butt head I'd laugh about what an idiot he was. Now days I'd have to see a shrink, tattle to my boss and sue.

Originally posted by Springer
I would just use "Debbie" and be done with it.

mark...

Well I was curious to see what it was and so I used debbie tonight for the first time... it was just awesome. I felt so elevated and empowered, almost like [self-snip]. Highly reccomend it, thanks!

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You got it, the only reason for using that term is to mock and ridicule truthers in an attempt to raise the temperature flairing tempers and anger before a civil discussion can even be contemplated .

I have always wondered why it is allowed also. It is an ad hom plane and simple.



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