Why Aliens; Fallen Angels have not overrun the earth yet - A response to Edgar Mitchell statement

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Would you like to compare degrees,,,,,?

reply to post by Bombeni

Yes this is mine ,,,,been doing this for about 38 years, I hope you will enjoy our effort.

reply to post by aleon1018

Greetings, seems like you have yourself in a spiritual quagmire, the problem with much of this manifestation, there are many voices, even among the so called aliens there is little agreement, here is what I know to be true, if a person will surrender their life to Jesus Christ, they gain authority over these forces and as you begin to understand the power that comes through relationship with Christ ,,,,
you can resist these deceiving spirits in Jesus Christ name and they will flee from you, so here is my prayer for you,,,,Father in Jesus Name I pray you will bind these deceiving
and lying spirits in Jesus Name and let my friend have a clear mind to understand your love for him and all who are being duped by the powers of darkness.

reply to post by ufosd


I have a christian couselor I already see once a month that doesn't care for me to talk about these things because he says they aren't being present.

I used to have what I thought were two or three papal blessing from someone who claimed to be the pope. After two or more years on an anti-psychotic medication, I find myself drifting away from these recalled lost time memories as if they were delusions.

That includes the alleged angels singing in the choir loft when I was confirmed. As I don't pray or care to; I don't hear voices speaking back to me either.

My counselor did seem to like my one alleged delusion of recalling having read out loud 4 different versions of the book of Isaiah as if from memory. The medication has since allowed me to forget so much as if it was just a dream or delusional fantasy......that's now fading away. Sometimes they(?) speak to me through other people though. So, at least they aren't in MY head anymore.



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The sad reality is many Christian theologians are completely out of touch on this area of ministry, however God has raised up men and women who understand this phenomena and can help separate the false from the true, depending on where you live I may be able to help direct you to someone who understands this from a biblical perspective, there is a great ministry in Michigan, another in Florida, and Roswell New Mexico, and one more I know of in California, I am in Ohio, so if you ever feel the need please don't hesitate to contact me and I will address or point you to some one who can help, my site also has a lot of Biblical information that may assist in dealing with this issue. if you are in another country I am sure there is some one in other regions we can locate also.

'They Live'

video.google.com...

the film is 94 min. & is likely PG17 (Language, & nudity in the last 15 seconds)
~then again get a youtube version, [ 'They Live' by John Carpenter ] ~


aliens / fallen angels control most of the masses with the aid of the elite humans.. one needs special glasses or perhaps an active hippocampus for one's brain to register the hidden world around us.
~not so far fetched an explaination~

Originally posted by ufosd
reply to post by aleon1018

 

Greetings, seems like you have yourself in a spiritual quagmire, the problem with much of this manifestation, there are many voices, even among the so called aliens there is little agreement, here is what I know to be true, if a person will surrender their life to Jesus Christ, they gain authority over these forces and as you begin to understand the power that comes through relationship with Christ ,,,,
you can resist these deceiving spirits in Jesus Christ name and they will flee from you, so here is my prayer for you,,,,Father in Jesus Name I pray you will bind these deceiving
and lying spirits in Jesus Name and let my friend have a clear mind to understand your love for him and all who are being duped by the powers of darkness.

Nothing to add just thought that post deserved a bump. You described it perfectly.

thestrongdelusion.com..." target="_blank" class="postlink">UFO History Reviewreply to post by St Udio


This is a Christian Perspective of the UFO related history by Dr. Mark Eastman

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ufosd, I understand you have been in ministry for quite some time. You know, I think it is our duty as Christians to at least explain the miracle of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and I tried that for awhile on internet. But more often than not I got ridicule which I don't care, but it's like a brick wall. Then I got to thinking, are we supposed to tell people who have heard about God and His Son all their lives? Perhaps the mission is to tell people who may have never heard. I refer to the scripture ------

King James Bible
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

So, if Jesus knew there would be this great many who enter the wide gate, who are we to try to stop them? Please know I am not trying to come off self-righteous, I am at the point, to each his own. It is saddening to see so many lost souls wandering, but I am just about convinced that none of us can change that. Jesus said His sheep would know His voice, so obviously there are plenty of sheep belonging to another flock.

reply to post by Bombeni

While I understand your frustration, we should never stop sharing, there may be a time when God may tell you to move on with an individual, and that does not mean they are given over, what you share may be a seed for someone else to build on or prune in the future, it took a few years for the gospel message to finally sink in with me, so what I do is allow the holy spirit to work off of what I share.

(1 Cor 3:6 KJV) I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.

(1 Cor 3:7 KJV) So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

(1 Cor 3:8 KJV) Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

(1 Cor 3:9 KJV) For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

(1 Cor 3:10 KJV) According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

(1 Cor 3:11 KJV) For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Hope this encourages you.

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Your link came up unavailable on google, in the mean time try going to my site on page 7 of my video section and watch the presentation by Dr. Mark Eastman, it is called UFO History Part 1 and 2, I tried linking it and it would not work either, so maybe there is a problem on Google today
www.thestrongdelusion.com

Originally posted by St Udio
'They Live'

video.google.com...

the film is 94 min. & is likely PG17 (Language, & nudity in the last 15 seconds)
~then again get a youtube version, [ 'They Live' by John Carpenter ] ~


aliens / fallen angels control most of the masses with the aid of the elite humans.. one needs special glasses or perhaps an active hippocampus for one's brain to register the hidden world around us.
~not so far fetched an explaination~

I did not get your video to open, the site claims it is unavailable

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Yeah thanks for the reminder. I especially liked this one:

1 Cor 3:10 KJV) According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

How did this thread turn into bible verses quoting? Fallen angels have been debunked. They are extraterrestrials for goodness sake.

It is rather circular logic to assert that the bible is the truth because it says so.

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deaf alien, exactly what do you think extraterrestrials are? The heavens are terrestrial right? There are a lot of people who think et's are demonic in nature, at least some et's. That is how the scripture thing came into play. It's all good.

reply to post by Bombeni


You are right. The "fallen angels" can be considered extraterrestrials since they came from where? From the sky (space) of course.

The problem here is how the christians view them. It is theological in nature. They do not have a clear view of what they truly are. The Terra Papers might help you to understand clearly. It contains more truth than what the christians teach.

Originally posted by Deaf Alien
reply to post by Bombeni

 

You are right. The "fallen angels" can be considered extraterrestrials since they came from where? From the sky (space) of course.

The problem here is how the christians view them. It is theological in nature. They do not have a clear view of what they truly are. The Terra Papers might help you to understand clearly. It contains more truth than what the christians teach.

Well you see I don't have a problem with the ET's at all. They don't disturb my sleep. I just consider them one of the mysteries in life to ponder. I am secure in My God that all is well. Here is what I beleive:

, 1 O Lord, thou hast searched me, and known me.
2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art aacquainted with all my ways.
4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O Lord, thou knowest it altogether.
5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.
7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother’s womb.
14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them!
18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee.
19 Surely thou wilt aslay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.
20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?
22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.

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Boy you are really good, if you are holding back now you must have been a Lion when you really wanted to share the good news,,,,Go,,,,Girl,,,

reply to post by Bombeni

The problem here is how the Christians view them. It is theological in nature. They do not have a clear view of what they truly are. The Terra Papers might help you to understand clearly. It contains more truth than what the Christians teach.



Have you noticed how upset some of these wonderful people get when you use the absolutes of the word,,,,you can use any other source you like, whether it comes from Hatton, Mickey Mouse or ISHTAR,,,, if the truth be known most of these people love to entertain themselves with ever learning , but never coming to the truth, Jesus said I am the way the truth and the life,,,,,what a glorious God we have,,,,Thank you Lord for your word which is established in the heavens ,,,,,,FOREVER.,,,,,,,,,

Angels good and bad are interdimensional beings and i belive many of them have already over run the earth.

cool vid here for discussion ...