Video of Cop Assaulting Cyclist at Critical Mass Ride

Originally posted by lw2525
In my opinion, this episode is a screaming example of the mass idiocy that
is rampant in our "society"...and it's tenfold anywhere the population is large.

The cyclists are a bunch of morons who apparently have nothing better to do than
assert their "rights to the road", as they see fit. It all started in San Francisco. Big surprise, eh?

The cop is a hot headed thug who doesn't have the self-control and judgement
that is needed in that line of work. He should be fired asap.

Yep....I call stupidity all around on this one.

Exactly.

Problems with Police are similar to problems with education. Pay the police more, make it harder to be one. Attract intelligence and people who care instead of people who are doing it for the power trip or as a last resort.

And I bet after a little while the former officer will be rehired and all the crack dealing cops will applaud his return.

Yes, cops deal drugs, seen it with my own eyes.

-Jimmy

reply to post by slicely


you got that right. NYPD starting pay i think is now pushing 23,000 a year.. and think you still have to live in NY. One can make more than that tending bar at your local ruby tuesdays.

You get what you pay for.. but i will say.. the start off pay for the Gov. isn't much better.. more so because living in DC isn't all that cheap.. though you do move up much faster and there are better snacks in the break room ;-)

Yes Jimmy.. some cops do sell drugs.. cops also sell drugs at the request of their town/state or local governments to find out who is selling or importing more drugs. But yes.. sometimes.. cops just end up selling drugs that they take out of the evidence room. 23,000 a year and a family of 4... its very tempting to have a little more income. Please.. if you see or know an office that is selling.. report him/her. If they are suppose to be doing it.. they will be fine.. if not.. they should not be wearing a badge and walking around with a "peace maker"

I happen to know first hand, of two judges and a DEA that have a wonderful supply of the wacky tabacky that just appears in their houses...and then goes up in smoke. One of them actaully was nabbed and is no longer the DEA.. but they ended up getting him on some other charge.



[edit on 30-7-2008 by ThirtySecond]

reply to post by missvicky


Most cyclists do not participate in the "Critical Mass" rides.

Most cyclists try to obey the rules of the road. If you're on a bike you have to pay attention. Even if you are in the right, if you're in an accident, you're going to be hurt.

Don't lump most cyclists in with the "Critical Mass" idiots.

reply to post by ThirtySecond



These videos prove a valid point. That point is..THESE ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF NEO-NAZI GREENIES WHO COULD NOT CARE LESS ABOUT THEY'RE STATED GOALS BUT TO FORCE AN ISSUE THROUGH INTIMIDATION AND VIOLENCE!!! This cop chose the wrong way to go after them but if the group don't tone down they're attacks and change they're behavior, they are going to get a rude awakening from the populace in some city they might not like.

Zindo

Originally posted by burdman30ott6
Wow. I do NOT like cyclists in any way whatsoever when they're on the damn highway or street (seriously, they do impede traffic and they are a safety hazzard and a major incovenience) but after watching this one a couple of times I can't come up with any good reason whatsoever for what the cop did there. The bike was trying to give him a wide berth and the cop actually sped up to ensure he made full contact with the biker. That's beyond messed up and the cop probably does deserve to lose his job and be sentenced for assault over this.

Yeah, and truckers hate car drivers who hate bicyclists who hate joggers who hate walkers. And how about those street vendors and cabbies? Just take a nightstick to `em, I say . . . .

As the late, great George Carlin said: "Anyone who's going slower than you is a moron. Anyone going faster than you is a MANIAC!"

Cops commit acts of brutality for the same reason dogs lick their crotch. Because they can! Most suffer from Authoritarian Personality Disorder and have sociopathic tendencies. It's why they became cops in the first place.

You want a prediction? I got youse a prediction right HEAH! Officer Pogan gets assigned desk duty until the public loses interest. [Tick-tock-tick-tock]. The only people who will still give a rat's ass by week's end will be the assaulted biker and his lawyer. They will settle with the city for an "undisclosed amount". Pogan goes back on the street with his family legacy intact. A "hero".

"Hey, youse! Keep mooovin'!! Whadda YOU lookin' at, asshole? I ain't aksing youse anudder time!! I said MOVE IT or I'll tase yer ass!"

reply to post by slicely


"What I am saying is that the Crictical Massers often have little defense themselves."

So, uh, tell us . . . since when did being obnoxious become a beat-down offense?

CMers are noted for being rude, loud and anarchistic. That's blood in the water for these Authoritarian Personality tools--er--sharks. They hate protesters. They hate anyone who dissents. Civil disobedience enrages them. Resistance to their commands drives them insane. Backtalk gets a backhand--or the Taser.

So . . . beatings WILL continue as long as these unpatriotic attitudes persist. We need obedient workers!!

Now move along . . . .

reply to post by Anonymous ATS



To side with Authority in blind obedience is not only stupid, but it's also not the way that us REAL Americans typically like to handle things.

The guilty pay, be it the local donut chomper or the crack dealer on the street.

Long live the Bikers....!

This to me is more confirmation that some, if not most police officers are under different orders than one would expect. Tell me, why would this cop feel comfortable in doing this if he knew it was abuse of power? This tells me that yes the cop is sorry, sorry that he got caught on camera. I imagine how many other times this has happened were there was no camera around? I for sure can think of a couple personal ones....

reply to post by Wildbob77


Sorry, posted my own first hand observations. And I still say it is ridiculous that cyclists are under the same laws as cars. If that's true, then no wonder they are road hazards.

Originally posted by Keyhole

Originally posted by president

This guy, and his buddies, were on the wrong side of the road, yelling and carrying on like some sort of unauthorized parade. And then that guy went to blow by that cop like he wasn't even trying to stop him.

Dude, a lot of the bikes were riding on that side of the road! The roads are closed when this event is going on.

It's an event they have once a month in NY that NYPD doesn't like!

From my post on page 4:
Video of Cop Assaulting Cyclist at Critical Mass Ride

"lthough a judge ruled in 2006 that the monthly Critical Mass bicycle rides could proceed without a permit, the NYPD's stance remains somewhat adversarial."


[edit on 7/29/2008 by Keyhole]

I did not know that. I guess my ignorance was showing. "My bad."

And just so you don't think that I was being some cop friendly. I will tell you this story.

I was riding my bike one day in florida. I had just dropped my laundry off and was enjoying the ride. The sun was out . temp was good. no traffic. everything was good. Then this cop cuts me off. gets out of his car (fully armed) and told me he wanted my ID.
I handed it to him and asked him what I did. he said "Nothing. I just want to know who you are."
Then I extended my hand and introduced myself and he said, "I don't shake hands."
Every since then, a pig can blow me. And not in the good way either.

Originally posted by dariousg
The problem with this, as I still stand by the men and women who chose this dangerous line of work to mostly protect and serve the people, is that it makes one wonder how many reports filed by crooked cops are BS. If this wouldn't have been caught on tape this cop would have gotten away with this assault.

Think about that he is a 3rd generation peace officer. I wonder where he learned that falsifying a police report was the correct thing to do?

He learned just like the way you learned to lie to protect yourself... he was born... he grew up.. and figured it worked when he was a kid.. so they still do it today. being a liar is pretty much just being human.. and yes.. even going a tad above the truth is a lie..

but with that being said. it wouldn't shock me if the case of his family police history, that is treated differently but not easier.. i have a feeling they will pull him from his duty and modify it. ( i think they did that) but he will have to go back and re take his ethics classes etc. Next think you know.. he might one day be the commish!

Originally posted by ThirtySecond
He learned just like the way you learned to lie to protect yourself... he was born... he grew up.. and figured it worked when he was a kid.. so they still do it today. being a liar is pretty much just being human.. and yes.. even going a tad above the truth is a lie..

but with that being said. it wouldn't shock me if the case of his family police history, that is treated differently but not easier.. i have a feeling they will pull him from his duty and modify it. ( i think they did that) but he will have to go back and re take his ethics classes etc. Next think you know.. he might one day be the commish!

Well I'm kinda wondering when you're going to quit defending this guy.
If there were a criminal assaulting a cycle cop in the same manner, I bet you'd start throwing a big hissy fit about it.
It's safe to say you're a little bias, that's understandable, but what you keep saying is alltogether this "Sure he did something bad, but he's just human so it's not that bad at all, let's just forget that he even did anything wrong, after all he's a cop, like me.".

Seriously dude, I know cops, big city and podunk cowtown cops, they are human, they want more money, they decide to put away any oath, promise or comitment to uphold the law when money pokes it's ugly head up, just like everyone else. Cops will take and fine people doing/using drugs and sell them to the drug dealers, seen them doing business with my own eyes. Once these guys start to push away morals just to make there job easier or to make more money, they really start to lose threshold on there own morality. But the police are not above the law, even though they hold themselves above it. I used think cops were cool when I was a kid, then I moved to a slum nieghborhood that was just down the street from the police station, then I saw what the mass majority (at least in my town) of cops were all about. Cops hand out way more speeding tickets then actually persuing criminals, real criminals, not just goobers who do drugs, the drug dealers themselves, they don't go after them unless the dealers own them money, then they actually uphold the law. Trust me, there may be a few good cops, but the majority is bad, more and more will become corrupt though as time goes by and the world in general corrupts more, that's just how it will be.
I do hope this cop is made an example of though, hope he has to get a job working at McDonalds or something that is not law enforcment, at any other job, that is how he would be treated.
He is no exception.

-Jimmy

Originally posted by ThirtySecond
Maybe he said something as simple as "out of the way effing pig" which is more than enough reason to take someone down..

I have to take issue with this comment. As far as I'm aware I can say whatever I want to a police officer, as long as it isn't something directly threatening, and his only course of action is to smile and nod. Of course, this is the New America, where freedom of speech is more or less a joke, so maybe I'm wrong.

There is only one thing for sure...and that is that this filthy pig..this brutal sissy with a bad temper and a badge, deserves to be taken out and horsewhipped for knocking a bycyclist down like that. No real man uses force like that, just a thug pig with no class.

There is ZERO justification for action like that...none at all. That pig scum just get mad and took it out on some poor guy....riding a bike, for Godss sake...with no protection. Scummy pigs..

I dislike bicyclists that ride in a way that slows cars and many of them could drive better, but to slam a rider to the ground like that is INDEFENSIBLE and anyone that defends this thug pig should be ashamed of themselves...totally.

I wonder how often this happens when the cameras are off.

Originally posted by BlueEyes
I wonder how often this happens when the cameras are off.

Too often!
It already happens too often when cameras are on.. Sad.
It looks like the cops in america are being brainwashed or something.

Originally posted by Blue10110

Originally posted by BlueEyes
I wonder how often this happens when the cameras are off.

Too often!
It already happens too often when cameras are on.. Sad.
It looks like the cops in america are being brainwashed or something.

If the cops are inclined to behave that way when they know they are being surveilled, you can bet it is more common when they know with reasonable certainty that they are not. That simply follows from human nature.

First off. i am not a cop. and often times cops get into the way of my job.. and often times they act like they are the biggest, baddest SOB out there. But i am defending the officer's actions, not his report. There is a second tape and maybe a third take that is currently under investigation and you will eventually see that the clip of the two officers confronting the suspect was done for a more than valid reason. The suspects legal rep. is not even going to try to sue the city of new york; rather, just talk the charges down as low as they can go and file "guilty". The only thing the officer did wrong is give a false report, which in my opinion should not be taken lightly. * note.. the false aspect of the report is that the suspect drove into the officer... however, that can be explained away in court via the stress of the situation.

As i had stated before. If you are not happy with how the NYC police teach their officers in detaining a suspect, you must take it up via a written protest or a personal letter to NYC. Wrapping your face in some type of cloth.. stepping on the flag.. burning things.. etc etc common forms of youth protesting will never get anything done. It will never change anything. want to change something? Buy a suit, get a hair cut and walk through the front door and change it. It may take time.. but if the cause is valid and worth while to you, you will do it!

As for saying anything you want to a cop. Yes you can.. You can tell them that they look funny.. smell like IHOP etc etc.. but just know you can be detained for nearly any reason that is suspicious to the officer or if the officer feels he/she is at risk. If that happens to you, and they cuff you to detain you as they go validate who you are... don't do a damn thing. It is when the cuffs come out when "innocent" people end up messing it up for themselves and either move the wrong way.. start swearing in public ( which in some states is a crime) and now.. you are under arrest and sitting in lock up for at least a good 10 hours. People understand if you are about to be put into cuffs.. you cannot move, get comfortable ( you can request the officer to put you in a more comfortable position) nor should you talk.. and just think.. 25 years ago.. hell.. 40 years ago.. you could have your arms taken out of your sockets by an officer and there is nothing you could do about it... so its gotten a lot more "respectful" since then.


[edit on 1-8-2008 by ThirtySecond]