The truth behind the Alien/UFO myths.

Well I've actually never heard anything of Alex Collier. His story sounds interesting though, I'll do some research.

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Art Bell verified that phone call occurred, and that he had a power outage for the first time in his radio history.

Wow thats crazy!

I'm thinking that the area 51 guy is telling the truth, and that the other people are after him.
On the contract you sign I'm pretty sure there a part saying

"If you release any information about area 51, we will hunt you down and kill you."

And what he said about UFO's being trans dimensional beings I also find true, because people have been saying that for a long time.

However there is always the possiblilty that he is lying.
He could be throwing us off... He might be crying because he is being threatened to make this phone call, (Like in the dark knight, where the police chiefs family might be killed...).
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Sincerely,
joshedis

Originally posted by jokei
"Coughs politely", the misuse of there/their/they're was my point you've also ignored my asking for proof of your IQ/Mensa credits... and the opening of your last post you said "On accident", surely you meant "by accident"...

Oh, and "computist", I think you meant you're a "Computerist", where did you study computerism?

Again, not wanting to cause consternation, but you're (not your) claiming to have such a high IQ and it's not standing up.

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You sound like an incredibly arrogant, malicious and jealous by nature human being. Not once have you composed any thing
inteligent thus wasting all our time -its people like you who need OFF the Planet!!!



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Welcome to the club dnbaudio! You're sure to have a roller coaster ride here!

Having said that, what you have mentioned in the OP is really nothing new. If you click the search button on ATS you'll find literally thousands of pages covering all the points mentioned by you. And that includes, for example, even the technical details concerning probable UFO propulsion systems, tech details of various implants discovered in people and even the experiments carried out on alleged recovered parts of UFOs!

In other words, most of what you've said has been brought out in great detail by ATSers already, except for your dream-like visions of the future, or distant things, or hints of your own fate as a result of what you insist is an implant in your neck (Have you got this scientifically tested? If not, why not?). Let's have a new angle to this stuff, something we've not heard of before. OK? Carry on!! And welcome once again!

Cheers!



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Originally posted by dnbaudio
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Art Bell verified that phone call occurred, and that he had a power outage for the first time in his radio history.

well, this call all could be a hoax, disInfo, of course.

we heard enough lies since 911.

nonetheless interesting, when he described the (fake) Alien Attack as pretext
for wiping out the population.I never imagined it this way.

Originally posted by vishudda
i'm disappointed to see the direction in which this is all going. i thought it was very clear from the start to see that dnb is trying to help us, and is trying to get us to help eachother. keep in mind that i've only been a member for a few days, but why is there a need to debunk someone's opinion and efforts to share information that they think is extremely relevant at this point in time in regards to the situation we are all facing? i just think all this bickering about spelling and grammar is an example of us not being able to look at the big picture in general, and a symptom of our ego problem/fear. why would we be here if not to learn from eachother and offer helpful (as opposed to harsh) criticism? i just don't think anyone can afford to resort to such trivial matters as commas, adjectives, spelling, grammar, or fighting about OPINIONS right now.

yes, ATS is wonderful simply for the fact that we believe nothing until it's proven, but. . . misplaced commas and debating about college degrees. . . really?? i had hoped we were all beyond that.

you should all watch the alex collier interviews if you haven't already. i haven't heard much from him since he was supposedly attacked in some way for trying to spread his honest and humble opinion about the earth dilema in the early '90s. he wasn't interested in fame, money, or personal gain. in a recent interview, he seemed very disappointed and hopeless about the world's apathy toward humanity.

bracing myself for the personal attacks,
jenny

I totally agree its absolutely appalling, degrading and shameful to see the works of these attitudes and behaviour. That is the whole problem of the world today there is none or very little "Respect, understanding, "Equality"and compassion- How are we to save ourselves without embracing these qualities. Here on ATS there are very demeaning, selfish and hostile people -I say Good Luck To These Types you shaln't be a Part Of The New World- That's if there is to be one? I think I Shall end POSTING on ATS- Not to mention the Threads that are constantly destroyed with "EGO'S who have nothing better to do than to "Belittle" with such ARROGANCE -Adios....


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Not to mention the Threads that are constantly destroyed with "EGO'S who have nothing better to do than to "Belittle" with such ARROGANCE -Adios....

I agree. Egos are everywhere- they layer and divide our society. They form clicks, they cause superiority issues, and they make the "lower social class" look and feel like idiots. Well said spyeye.

this is all bunk. hey want to alter something , how about my paycheck? sheesh and the vibrations thing that is just pure false like fairies and goblins. its one thing to have faith in something and a completely different thing to boldly make stuff up as fact. Its like I tell my mom religion is about faith not facts if it was about facts it would be a history book not the bible. and 2012? its just another day yet people want to draw attention to it. Hey next time the mayans make a calender tell them to learn how to fight and protect themselves. I dont trust a civilization that cant even defend itself let alone see the future.

This is the most presumptuous thing I have ever read.

Originally posted by dnbaudio
Art Bell verified that phone call occurred, and that he had a power outage for the first time in his radio history.

No, you don't verify that it actually happened. You verify who the caller was and where it came from. Otherwise, it's utterly useless and unreliable.

Im sure the OP claimed to be able to PROVE he had telepathic powers

Well here you go James Randi $Million dollar challenge

Should be no problem for you to win this million dollars and retire

Ps, you could always chip in a few quid to me for pointing you in the right direction and making you a millionaire

i shall monitor James´s site to keep an eye on your progress. Please read my mind to see what i think your chances of proving anything are

Good luck and remember, easy million for you, a few cold ones for me would be appreciated

I think I'm going to make a cool million - courtesy James Randi. I knew there was a reward, and I'm going to apply for it, after a little practice with my favorite co-telepath. Thanks for the link!

I don't think I'll be able to prove any link with any alien races, at least until they get here. But, I know I can prove my abilities, and only one other telepath even tried to win it, a "Dr. Drew". I might try to get ahold of him to see if he wants to go in as partners.

I'm going to spend some time trying to meditate on new things I've discovered in these last two weeks, and see what answers I can get. But, I'm quite sure that I'm accurate, because I am no longer "compelled" to do research. I think I've done what they wanted me to do. I am communicating my knowledge to the world to the best of my abilities.

My fears have abated and I am feeling quite clear, these days. I now know my role in this mystery. I hope that I've given some level of peace to the other people who have experiences that justify their "outlandish" beliefs. So, I will continue to check this thread and my U2U for questions and comments.

I appreciate all of the input, good and bad, because without critical analysis, we wouldn't be doing justice for mankind. Keep seeking the truth, people!

Thank you, all,
~!dnb!~

Ok, well Dr. Drew claims to only be able to telepathically communicate with his wife, so, I guess that means I'm going to have to use my own partner. I was wondering if anyone wanted to post some links to other threads on ATS that would help me find like-minded people, too.

Oh, and for those believers, I have something else to express to you. I am told the the afterlife is not as pleasant as we generally think, and it's hard to get reincarnated. Being alive is the best way to retain your personal power.

You must protect your life as hard as you attempt to protect your spiritual existence. We are mortal, and should act accordingly. That means, own a weapon, consider your personal security as ultimately important, and trust your empirical data. We are on the brink of a war stemming from calamity, and we should therefore prepare for the worst. We must also come together as a species, now.

~dnb~

Hey!

dnb I found someone...not exactly like minded, but I figured you'd like to check it out!
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

Oh and I was wondering what you thought about this thread.
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

So anyways, good luck with that!
Oh and if you contact Charlie again,if you wouldn't mind asking "him" about "The Allies of Humanity" (The link to the site is in the seconds link I posted)

Sincerely,
joshedis

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Oh, and for those believers, I have something else to express to you. I am told the the afterlife is not as pleasant as we generally think, and it's hard to get reincarnated. Being alive is the best way to retain your personal power.

Who's told you that, and do you really trust them enough to believe this? I'm sure religion is a factor, but in my book that'd be one statement facing a sea of the disagreeing.

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Josh, you're the best, man. For starters, the first thread you mentioned is only similar to mine, as I'm non-religious (simply spiritual). I believe that the faith we must discover, is faith in each other. Faith that we are the supreme beings. Faith that personal liberty above and controlling government is the most just effort of an intelligent species.

The second thread is really awesome. It is exactly what I'm trying to say. That if they are friendly, they wouldn't influence us, at all. That those who believe in our liberty are our allies. Only a truly evil manipulative influence would create secret plans to control our God-given resources. We still have rights to our planet, unless we give them up to the evil resource hogs.

The same is true of American liberties and our fruitful endeavors.

I will not give in to authority. I AM AUTHORITY! We each are the authority! We have a Declaration of Independence and Constitution that declare it and enforce it, and if we give up our freedom for security, we earn neither.

Write in Ron Paul for President.

I would just like to add that I am quite sure, now, that these trans-dimensional beings really are our descendants. The evil greys enslaved by the evil races is what will happen to us, if we give in to them, at all. And, the whites(blues) are what we will become (enlightened), if we fight back and enforce our free rule of ourselves. WE ARE BORN FREE, LIVE FREE, and by God, I WILL DIE FREE! BECAUSE I AM A PATRIOT, AND I WILL NOT FEAR!

Fight against the NWO!!! BE REVOLUTIONARIES!! IT IS TIME TO REAFFIRM OUR PLACE AS GOD'S CHILDREN!! For, it is hell to be under the rule of tyrannical government.

Do not let our leaders exchange our free will for technologies, their own selfish power, or the empty promises of the politicians from other worlds.

WE ARE THE DECIDERS, not G.W.B.. For God's sake, people, wake up!!!
~dnb~

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What your saying is really powerful stuff.
Oh and thanks for the compliment!

O.K now on to my actual post!

What do you think about the ancient pictures(hieroglyphs) of the Godlike figures figures, look any thing like Charlie?

Oh and have you had any contact with Charlie lately?
If you did I'm sure I speak for (almost) everyone when I say I'd love to hear about it.
But if you have and just don't want to talk about it, that's alright.

Well it's late so I'm going to bed, I'll check up on the thread in the morning night!

Sincerely,
joshedis

08-08-08 has come and gone, and nothing significant happened that I am aware of. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm the last one to deny someone else's experience, as I've had two very bizarre experiences in my own life that most people don't believe. And, for what it's worth, my IQ is 166 and I have a BS in computer science too (with a 3.98 GPA) and "they" haven't found me worthy of contact. Dang it all, looks like I'll be stuck here to die in 2012 unless I can dig myself a bunker.

Here's something to consider. I've read several of this type of thread since I've been on ATS (and yes, that hasn't been very long). The very first time I read through one of these threads and find that the benevolent OP who wants to help us ascend, get saved, find the light, unite with our fellow man, save the planet .. etc., etc., etc. ... doesn't get angry, threatening, rude, condescending, patronizing, and tell people to go away when challenged, that's the one I'll consider believing.

C'mon people, think about this .. for yourselves. If you had the information and contacts to help people save themselves and each other, and were smart enough to know that most people aren't going to take you at face value and just believe whatever you say, would YOU get so angry and defensive when questioned? I'm not known for being diplomatic or tactful by any means, but I don't think I'd take that kind of attitude. It doesn't help anyone, does it?

Just stop and think about this, and evaluate it for yourselves as human beings. When an honest person who is telling the truth is questioned and challenged, how do they react? How do YOU react when you're telling the truth and someone doesn't believe you? On the other hand, how does a liar react when you catch him out? How do you react when you're caught in a lie?

It is my personal opinion that an honest, innocent man who is only trying to help or find others like himself would not react in this fashion.

Please don't waste your time attacking me, I could care less. I'm only asking you to think, to evaluate the OP's reactions for yourselves based on what you know about human nature from experience.

And one final question: Are we having fun yet?

Originally posted by Heike

C'mon people, think about this .. for yourselves. If you had the information and contacts to help people save themselves and each other, and were smart enough to know that most people aren't going to take you at face value and just believe whatever you say, would YOU get so angry and defensive when questioned? I'm not known for being diplomatic or tactful by any means, but I don't think I'd take that kind of attitude. It doesn't help anyone, does it?
you know about human nature from experience.

And one final question: Are we having fun yet?

Thank you, Heike, for knocking me down a notch. I have been quite defensive, and I apologize for my vigorous rhetoric. It is my firm opinion that I have only been clarifying my position, rather than trying to defend an undefendable position.

Furthermore, upon researching some of these "mediums", if that's what they're called, who write down what they're being told. I have come to some new conclusions, disillusioning my apparent manipulated mindset about them being descendants or even remotely related to mankind. They are as much us, as a sea-sponge. We are the rightful owners of our Earth and all of its resources, and must declare our terms of engagement strictly and publicly.

Any ETs, which visit Earth without the permission of ALL of the native people of Earth, are non-benevolent and are here for selfish reasons and are therefore trespassers and should be treated as such. Any human-alien hybrids should be identified and sent off this planet with the 'visitors' who created them. I'm having my implant removed and seek only telepathic communication with fellow humans and those allies of humanity's personal liberty.

We deserve justice and openness from the government that SERVES US. The politicians DO NOT run the world. We do. They work for us. So do the soldiers of the Armed Services, the employees of the Federal government, etc. We must not back down from enforcing our Personal Liberties and Rights.

I have downloaded a copy of The Declaration of Human Sovereignty regarding Contact with Extraterrestrial Nations and Forces. This, I consider, the foremost authority on the stance of the People of the World on this subject. I recommend reading it for yourself.

I, therefore, will defend the laws to which I am legally bound. I will fight against tyranny and deception at any level. And, this is a call for unity.

Consider this my blank check made payable to the people of the world for services defending personal liberty for an amount up to or including my life. I am an honorable Veteran of Wars with the vision to act in accordance with law. I humbly request your comradery.

In the service of Mankind, Liberty for all, your friend,
~dnb~