New Mystery Disease in China, is this the next big outbreak?

And here I am, reading Stephen King's The Stand!!

Originally posted by space cadet
Check out the conversation in this link, this doctor is saying it is not contagious, but he is also elusive about the disease:

en.epochtimes.com...

It's quite interesting that only the men are dieing here, but that could be nothing but a small sample size or coincidence. The other part that stood out to me was

A reporter then called the Xiaoguan Town Hygiene Agency. A male physician denied that a contagious disease has been spreading. He said there was some influenza. When the reporter asked why several people had died, the physician became evasive.

Wait, influenza isn't contagious anymore?? And, while possible, I'm not sure appendicitis could ever make your head do THAT, but he could just mean that there was a mixup in reports of a death due to appendicitis and something else.

EDIT: And someone earlier mentioned a Tom Clancy book where a virus was released at the Olympic Games - the book was called Rainbow Six

[edit on 29/7/2008 by Muppetus Galacticus]

reply to post by Caliwowly1


It sounds like these people are dying within 24 hours of getting it.


That should contain it quickly I would think, because most people will die before it has a chance to propogate too much.

Although I expect vigorous quarantines.

These unexplained diseases are a product of world governments trying to control population. Every disease has a cure, but there's too much money involved to give out the cures. Any time something is cured, a new, more deadly disease takes it's place. I can cure Cancer, but then again, the United States can cure it too, but they won't. Too much money comes in from sick people to give out the cures. Cancer is the easiest deadly disease to cure. I hate this sick world!! Hopefully the mayans are right and this will all come to an end in four years.....

Originally posted by kdial1
reply to post by UnitedSatesofFreemasons

 

I'd be a little more concerned about country ribs. Hopefully this strain will not spread to mutton. The people planning to attend the Olympics should be careful and hand wash all pork and not eat it medium rare.

Wow if there start to be restrictions on swine products here in the US......well I will be beyond disappointed....I love BACON!! Hopefully China can contain this!!

Thanks for the extra links UnitedSatesofFreemasons

-Kdial

Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by kdial1

 

this was my thought. too much money wrapped up in the olympics to panic people away.

but you do have people from all over the world there, what a way to spread it.

anyone figure out how far this village is from the olympics yet?

why these things always seem to come from china?

its hot, its humid( a lot of it anyways) and heavily populated.

Just a big pitri dish.

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wow..we better hope they dont try to pull some # like that off...that would be not good..they could infect the world

to the dark ones who may thing of such a strategy,please dont do it...dont break the rules

please

Originally posted by Quazga
It sounds like these people are dying within 24 hours of getting it.


That should contain it quickly I would think, because most people will die before it has a chance to propogate too much.

According to a disease expert I heard on C2C some months ago, that is exactly the reason the avian flu hasn't become a pandemic yet. The virus hasn't yet gone airborne or mutated to readily infect humans because it is too powerfull. Apparently viruses "know" when they will cause quick death to a host and don't make that final jump between host species until they have mutated down to being very powerfull and resillient, yet somewhat slower acting in order to ensure a longer lifespan and higher reproductive rate.

I'm making it sound a lot less eloquent and technical than the guest did, but what he said made a lot of sense. He stated that the true "Red Alert" scenario will come when we see H5N1 infected humans living for several days to a week before showing major symptoms of infection followed by death within a few days. Then the virus will be infinitely mobile in today's highly connected world and an infected person can fly from Hong Kong to New York and even spend a couple of days visiting sites and interacting with (and infecting) people before they even realize they are ill. Quarantines are pretty useless if the person quarantined has already infected a dozen people, who have in turn infected a dozen each, etc ad infinitum. By the time they start a quarntine on the original source, there are already several hundred thousand infected walking around and we're literally standing on the doorstep of total population exposure.

if i here anyone say "african rabies"

im'stocking up on food and destroying the ground floor staircase in my house.

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I doubt that China would have anything to gain by covering something like this up... If there was a serious threat, the government would report it to the WHO and get some assistance... It could be the Chinese government testing some biological or chemical weapon...

Not sure if anyone slipped this in without me seeing it, but a recent thread shows a piglet in China with freakish mutations of its head and face...it looks like a primate!

How far are the locales from each other?

You all need to keep a few points in mind:

- The H5N1 flu requires close and prolonged contact with the animal reservoir/vector (source). The laboratory cases are administered via intranasal injections of large numbers of virus. These doses would never be possible in humans, except for person actively involved in raising and processing the animals.

The influenza viruses have only 7 to 8 genes and undergo the genetic shift (mix and match of genes) in various avian species during migrations. This has happened for thousands of years yet outbreaks are linked to only a few immunological types.

- Streptococcus suis is far more common in the US than you think. Again it is seen mainly in occupational exposure of agricultural/meat industry workers. It is still susceptible to most antimicrobial drugs in use.

Smallpox is a much greater worry since most people alive today are under age 40 and unimmunized.

streakr

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I wonder because of the olympics they don't want to scare people from going there!

No, much like SARS and H5N1 this won't result in anything of any great scale.

reply to post by Cyberbian

You wil have to autoclave and not boil to sterilize. Of course if there is information that it is easily destroyed below 100 celcius then you would only need to boil.

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Everytime China gets some disease they always end up accidentally SPREADING IT to america doesn't this sound funny ?

Originally posted by space cadet
Check out the conversation in this link, this doctor is saying it is not contagious, but he is also elusive about the disease:

en.epochtimes.com...

If you click the source link on the OP's page, you'll see that it leads back to that story.

Epoch times is an extremely anti-china source - they were the ones who put out that story about the big earthquake being a nuclear bomb going off, and they were also behind a lot of misinformation a few months ago with Tibet, and on and on. In other words, they're a news source that has no problem making up news about China to spread a bit of panic and so forth.

I'll believe it when I see it in something more credible - providing, of course, the story can't be traced back to Epoch Times.

Originally posted by doomsday2012
These unexplained diseases are a product of world governments trying to control population. Every disease has a cure, but there's too much money involved to give out the cures. Any time something is cured, a new, more deadly disease takes it's place. I can cure Cancer, but then again, the United States can cure it too, but they won't. Too much money comes in from sick people to give out the cures. Cancer is the easiest deadly disease to cure. I hate this sick world!! Hopefully the mayans are right and this will all come to an end in four years.....

You say you can cure cancer... Perhaps you would be willing to share that secret with us, or create a free webpage(s) that would give that information to the world... or you could continue to keep it secret... like you say the government does...

The info on rife machines is out there.. there was a guy that posted here regularly a while back who has a whole bunch of information on that, as well as other topics on his site.. I can futz around to find the info if you're really interested, but a googling should do you fine I think.

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I assume your replying to me... im sorry if not... rifle machines you say? Ill definately look into this. Thank you for the info. My appologies to the other poster if I seemed crass.

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That is one creepy sounding illness. I hope they get things figured out soon. China has a very long history of plagues and epidemics. A lot of historians seem to believe that it was due to their lack of cleanliness and poor eating habits. They said they would eat anything, and didnt typically care about sanitizing anything. Where as a lot of religious groups and other civilizations had 'rules' about everything they ate, and how it was prepared.

That coupled with high population is a breeding ground for all kinds of icky infectious crap.

As for life during an epidemic, may I suggest 'Fever 1793'. It is an excelent book that gives an amazing perspective on life. We may have come a long way since the late 1700's as far as technology goes, but human nature is the same. This book will give you a lot to think about.

Did someone say it was in the same region as the recent earthquake?
Because my husband was listening to C2C the other night, and although he was half asleep, he said he thought they mentioned radiation poisoning as a possible cause.