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The Questions U.F.O. skeptics can't answer

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posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:28 PM
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i was listening to some ufo show or something and it made total sense..you really cant prove you only have evidense.

but like you mentioned, its almost weird that these skeptics dont take into the account of our military,astronaut,presidential,pilot testimony..

maybe they never seen an x press conferense before..

[edit on 03/06/2008 by LordThumbs]



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:30 PM
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its still just stories. Sooner or later to definitively state we are being visited by E.T we need more than just stories.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:39 PM
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in order to reach the last 40% who dont believe (in america) i feel that we need more of an outreach strategy to bring the video or testimony to the people. a congressional hearing would be nice!

or the classic disclosure speech by the government would bring everyone on the same page.. FINALLY

so i agree those of us who have harder heads than others need to have proof hit em on the head.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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We have more than just stories, but lets use your premise that it's just stories.

Why should I wait to come to a reasonable conclusion on these things after looking over all the direct and circumstantial evidence along with 3 sightings that I had?

Should I wait to come to a conclusion until every skeptic has there undeniable proof? How does that make any sense?



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by polomontana
It's simple, if there was a logical explanation for these things then they wouldn't be unexplained.


No, "unexplained" means there is not enough evidence to explain it. It does not mean it defies logical explanation or that

I have offered explanations, so have other people. YOU have yet to provide evidence these things are alien.

You have yet to provide one shred of evidence to rebutt these things. You have yet to provide a logical explanation for any of the things that I have mentioned.

I have offered explanations, so have other people. YOU have yet to provide evidence these things are alien; you are making leaps of logic, assigning new definitions to words, claiming stories are hard evidence, and dismissing everyone who does not agree with you as lacking evidence, explanation, or as a pseudoskeptic.


Originally posted by polomontana
I'm not just filling in the blank, I'm looking at the evidence and I'm considering the possibilities.


Please, what possibility have you considered outside of "extraterrestrial?" You are closed-minded; that is not considering possibilities. To you, there are no other possibilities, because you DO NOT KNOW the definition of "unexplained" thinking it means "alien" and thinking leaps of logic where YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE is evidence of alien. That is not reasonable or rational. It is the height of stupidity, the very thing primitives did when cowering in their caves.


Originally posted by polomontana
You tell me, why are extra-dimensional/extra-terrestrial beings not a possibility?


AT NO POINT has anyone said that. YOU are the one claiming we are saying that. We are saying there are better, more "mundane" explanations. What we are saying is that a lack of evidence, that unexplained does not mean alien. You are the one putting words in our mouths.

I am putting Polomontana on Ignore. I would advise everyone else on here to do the same; he is a troll with little desire to discuss these things. He is every bit as closed-minded and blind as the skeptics he constantly attacks personally. He does not seek to prove extraterrestrial visitation, rather confusing browbeating skeptics as "proof."



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:46 PM
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I think they see the eyewitness testimony from pilots, police military and more they just discount it because of their pre-existing belief that these things don't or can't exist.

We would never make it in this world if we didn't weigh eyewitness testimony. It's only in things that come up against a pre-existing belief that gets classified as meaningless.

If no pilots were seeing these things, then the skeptic would be asking,"If these things exist, why hasn't any pilots seen them?"

When you start with a logical fallacy, then you have to continue to build logical fallacies to support the initial premise.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:54 PM
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i have also seen something in the sky i cant explain. But i dont jump to the conclusion it was aliens in a spaceship.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:55 PM
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Put me on ignore if you wish.

Of course many people who claim to be skeptics don't see extra-terrestrial/extra-dimensional beings as a reasonable possibility.

Look, when I see the video of the 62 kids in Zimbabwe, I ask the questions.

Is it:

A. A Mass Delusion
B. Made up story
c. The government using billion dollar technology to scare kids in Zimbabwe
d. Visitation.

I look at all the possibilities and the investigation from people like Harvard Professor John Mack.

I come to a reasonable conclusion based on the evidence from the kids and other similar events that occur.

Now, I'm open to ant other possibilities and evidence. I have yet to see any offered by the skeptics.

Why should I wait to reach a reasonable conclusion? Should I stick my head in the sand until every skeptic has there undeniable proof of these things?



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:58 PM
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A Question For All The Skeptics?

If you were to see a ufo tomorrow come down, make a landing and an alien being come outside of the ship only to beam you with a laser temporarily paralyzing you then to re-board the ship and take off again what would you do about it?

Who would you tell?

How would you explain to the other skeptics your story?

You would probably realize just a day ago you considered anyone who saw ufo's and aliens to be insane, only to realize you were now one of those persons.


So what would you do about it?

Just Curious!



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 02:58 PM
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Who is jumping to this conclusion?

It's a thing called Corroborating evidence. I don't come to these conclusions in a vacuum.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:04 PM
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why do you think one kid said the being had long hair but others didn't.?Then at first the being had a black suit but the kids drawing was more like a "grey".

we have very little info on this case. We dont have any full witness statements. It would be interesting to compare them



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:10 PM
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if someone tells me they seen something in the sky but still dont feel as if it was a ufo. then you may not have been as close to the object in order to change your thinking, why bring it up.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:19 PM
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but one kid says the being had long hair. Never heard of "greys" with long hair.


If that happened that was 1 child out of 62 who either was mistaken at the time, confused or got it right and one of the aliens had hair. There are reports of hybrid aliens then there are also other types. If you follow the link below and click on drawings of aliens made by children you can view hybrid alien descriptions encountered from abduction experience.


Keep in mind these are children who have been abducted who are telling their stories, in fact entire families have come forward supporting each others claims, if there is a mass delusion going on believe me it's a pretty big one because even the three year olds are talking about it.


More alien testimony and evidence from children:

www.aliensandchildren.org...





[edit on 28-7-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:22 PM
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you dont know what all the others said. I assume you have the same info as me. According to the statements we do have their was only 1 "being"



[edit on 28-7-2008 by yeti101]



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by yeti101
why do you think one kid said the being had long hair but others didn't.?Then at first the being had a black suit but the kids drawing was more like a "grey".

we have very little info on this case. We dont have any full witness statements. It would be interesting to compare them


Many of the kids later on had privately funded polygraph tests and passed them. Does this help the case?


[edit on 28-7-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:25 PM
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as i said before , people can genuinely think they have seen something. But thats not necesarily what happened.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:37 PM
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You truly are hard-headed IMO lol


62 kids at recess see a ufo in the sky come down and land, aliens step outside the craft. Hmmm all 62 children describe about the exact same thing? Big black eyes, large heads, grey alien type beings, Not human, flying saucer type disk? They are all then interviewed, make sketches give their testimony take polygraph tests and pass yet you still think it was mere coincidence?

You might wanna check yourself before you wreck yourself.lol




[edit on 28-7-2008 by Malevolent_Aliens]



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:47 PM
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lol


i feel your frustration soo much right now.lol

that statement "what you think you see may actually be something else" is so weird.lol if a military guy says he saw a ufo intersept a missle then dang it thats what he saw.lol

or like bill nye says "thats a big step.thats a big step" he makes me sick.

in other words, dont convince a skeptic who isnt ready to put in the casestudy time that you are willing to.

havent you ever wondered why a skeptic would stay around for so long on a forum about aliens and ufos. a skeptic KNOWS its impossible to make a disbeliever out of a believer and at the same time they know a believer can make a believer out of a skeptic,

so maybe they just really want to believe and these discussions help them along the way..


[edit on 03/06/2008 by LordThumbs]



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:49 PM
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where did you see the testimonies of all 62 kids? and clearly they all didnt say the same thing as mentioned earlier.



posted on Jul, 28 2008 @ 03:51 PM
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but still dont you think its compelling that they are ALL talking about aliens and craft landing.lol dont get hung up on the small stuff rookie. big picture big picture big picture.

[edit on 03/06/2008 by LordThumbs]



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