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Originally posted by MegaTherion
reply to post by amatrine
I can't believe how naive this kind of response is. most of you are people who beleive in the NWO and illuminati and all that silliness.
you have to play ball in some respects, or the monied interests will CRUSH YOU.
there is no King Arthur appraoch to this government, and if there is one, Obama is as close as you get.
He's doing the best he can under extraordinary circumstances.
you can't change the system without getting into the system, he's playing the politician so as to get elected. and he'll work within perameters so as not to get impeached or shot or something.
If you go about it the 1960s way or the Ron Paul way, it looks to normal people like 'Old Man Yells At Cloud'. they'll just call you a criminal and get you arrested or they will not vote for you (Ron Paul).
an explanatory example:
if there is a fire in your kitchen, and the dorr is closed, you have to open it before you throw the water.
throwing water at a closed door is only going to get your socks wet.
Originally posted by alienj
Its a perception the news media is trying to pawn on you by making you think he is popular by covering him going to the bathroom.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Originally posted by Jesus_Christ
You should love him for the man that he is, not hate him for what he is not.
Boy, I hate to disagree with Jesus_Christ but I don't like him for what he is.
And he is a socialist with bad, damaging ideas.
Originally posted by Shawn B.
Or maybe they were just giving away free beer.
Originally posted by mental modulator
Alright WHATTHEORY---
What do you figure are the bad damaging ideas,, better yet what is the outcome of these ideas in your opinion?
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Originally posted by Shawn B.
Or maybe they were just giving away free beer.
It's funny you should mention this and laugh because that is exactly what happened in Germany. Before Obama was to speak they had a free concert by a couple of popular bands over there plus they gave away free beer and brats.
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Originally posted by rapinbatsisaltherage
BTW- do you support McCain?
He was not my first choice, so I have no choice but to support McCain. I agree and disagree with him on several different major issues. However, there is no way in hell I will vote for Obama because of his past and his politics. I don't want to live in a copy of a EU nation.
[edit on 26-7-2008 by WhatTheory]
Originally posted by alienj
reply to post by amatrine
You know Amatrine you can go online and see Obamas voting record and McCains voting record. The first thing that will jump out at you is that Obama has only showed up to vote 40 percent of the time and that he is considered the MOST liberal senator we have. Wow the most liberal in fact he is right in line with socialist's with the way he votes. McCain on the other hand has showed up to vote over 89 percent of the time and has continually voted exactly what he says, he has not flipped flopped on any bills. As we know Obama has flipped on a couple now in the few that he even makes it to congress to vote. Please ppl go to the congressional website and really take a look at what ppl are doing in congress, it is quite educational and also gives you facts to debate with others about the candidate you like.