6th Man On Moon Announces Were Not Alone On Kerrang Radio?

Boyd Bushman told me over the phone that he knows the NAVY pilot that shot down the Roswell craft.

Originally posted by COOL HAND
With this topic (and the support, flags, stars, etc for it) ATS has officially jumped the shark.

Welcome Mr Spook! I was wondering when you would show up Its been awfully quiet around here...

Nice of you to drop by and share you logic. Almost 'on cue' you might say

I'm stunned, people are just brushing aside and rubbishing people like Edgar Mitchell, Buzz Aldrin and the like. Are we talking some crackpot UFO investigator NO, we are talking LEGENDS. Who cares what they finished up as they did the job and were HEROES to the people.

Yet, just to prove you are a good little debunker you forget every inch of what they have achieved and just throw a garbage comment at these people.

If you are looking for credible people you need look no further, these people saw, heard, had influence and moved the the exact perfect circles to know and yet because they are late on in life they are now 'old fuddy duddys' who know nothing.

Oh, perhaps we can rename Edgar Mitchell as the man who made crap up...

Good lord, have respect for these guys, technically they are going beyond oaths and for what? For people to ignore them?

I for one hope we are heading to some form of Disclosure, pilots, astronauts, Police, military people, Navy People, Pentagon people all saying the same....But hey, what would they know....

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Well this may well be the smoking gun even the danish newspapers have this article on the front page. I hope disclosure is finally on its way

I love it when former astronauts share light to this subject - you Knowthey have great knowledge. The guy is old so he might as well speak up now and so he did

the buzz aldrin interview was edited so the part where he talks about what the object actually was is missing. And it wasnt an alien spaceship. Look about you will find the full interview. You have been conned by a bogus tv show.

he has also restated on shows like larry king that he never saw an alien spacehip. It was part of the apollo hardware.


Edgar mitchell also belives a spiritual crystal healer stopped him getting cancer. Do you beleive that too? I think that trip to the moon was just too much for him.

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Originally posted by i wonder
How on earth can they continue their attempts to deceive the populace concerning Alien visitation to our little hamlet in the universe?

Rather than be frustrated, just take some time to add up all of the really good evidence we have that what we're talking about is even "aliens." Not the conjecture. Not the third-hand accounts. Not the "read-between-the-lines" stuff, questionable materials, fuzzy photos. All of it.

Unfortunately, what you end up with is... we don't know what's going on.

Now, you can assume that the government does. You can assume that aliens are afoot. You can assume a lot of things.

But past all the assumptions and the lousy evidence and hearsay, we don't have anything conclusive. That's it. End of story (at least so far). And getting all worked up about it isn't going to change anything.

Originally posted by COOL HAND
With this topic (and the support, flags, stars, etc for it) ATS has officially jumped the shark.

Are we so pathetic here that we are reduced to debating heresay and some folks actually come out in support of it? He has no proof, just things he claimed to have been briefed on. Why would anyone as public as an Apollo astrounaut be briefed on that kind of information if it existed?
Can anyone else think of any classified programs that famous people get read into?

In case anyone missed it, CAPT Mitchell finished his "illustrious" career with NASA as a backup LMP (after serving as a primary LMP). Kinda says something, doesn't it?

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Anyone who tries to trash someone like Edgar Mitchell on the basis his career has gone downhill from walking on the moon onwards must buy their sharks bulk and pre jumped.

Where the hell would anyone's career go but down after something like that?

It's hearsay when it comes from some anonymous poster on the internet, when it comes from an astronaut it's an account and evidence. It's a testimony. And when it comes from one as brilliant as this man seems to be it's all but a pre disclosure.

Originally posted by Mclaneinc
I'm stunned, people are just brushing aside and rubbishing people like Edgar Mitchell, Buzz Aldrin and the like. Are we talking some crackpot UFO investigator NO, we are talking LEGENDS. Who cares what they finished up as they did the job and were HEROES to the people.

Hey, if he wants to plop an alien ray gun down on a table somewhere, I'm sure there will be plenty of people, including myself, willing to take a good look at it. But until then, his opinion is no better than yours or mine.

He thinks there are aliens? Fine. Let's see that ray gun.

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mitchell also claims a spiritual crystal healer from Sedona stopped him getting cancer. Do you believe that too?


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Actually I would say his opinion is orders of magnitude better than yours and mine, because of his qualifications, experiences and contacts. He has a base knowledge much more in tune and extensive on the subject matter than the vast majority of the human race.

Where do you guys come off saying such inane stuff like this? There is such a thing as a credible witness, and this man was envolved in enough high end science to have a credible testimony, and I do believe him when he says there has been a coverup of the reality of alien visitation.

Now, where is my free energy damnit?

Almost pointless to write this, but consensus makes reality and it seems that many, many people are open to the existance of ETs and visits by UFOs. We aren't alone and never have been.
It's only in the last couple hundred years that people started thinking that humans were the only intelligent denizens in the universe.

Also, this is confirmation of the emerging middle-of-the-road.
The situation is complex and runs the gamut of human history.

ET interference all along. Sort of a revived contact with the acquistion of nuclear tech level. We became extraterrestrials ourselves then, no? Around then? Space-faring?
Time will tell.
The cool thing is, when/if the authorities disclose, it really won't change anything. The "Visitors" have been here all along and people will still need bread.

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I do not function with a heavy emphasis on belief. I believe the probability of something untill I know for sure.

That said, you're talking to someone who can see the energy field emanating from his own hands and from other living things, so yeah, I do not consider it in any way outlandish. I have no idea atm what to do with said energy, but I am fully aware there is more to us than meets the average eye. I have commented on this already on a previous post in this thread.

It's not my fault you haven't meditated and tuned your body enough to be aware of it's potentials.

I am also aware of the benefits of something as simple as sound therapy. See: Mood. There is more things to physics than most people are aware of, and it's silly to be closed minded. I know there is a relation between energy and health.

BUT: even if all that energy healing stuff does not pan out it does not change the validity of this man's statement on UFO's and coverups. A person can be right about one topic and not about another, which is why I dislike ad hominem attacks which usually just show the inability of the attacker to keep up with the discussed topic

Originally posted by Mclaneinc
I'm stunned, people are just brushing aside and rubbishing people like Edgar Mitchell, Buzz Aldrin and the like. Are we talking some crackpot UFO investigator NO, we are talking LEGENDS. Who cares what they finished up as they did the job and were HEROES to the people.
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People hold astronauts and air force in such high regard, these people imo are no more heroes than people who climb mountains. People become astronauts because they want to, not to better humanity. Sure they better humanity, but that's kinda a side issue, they wanna get out into space and visit other planets, who here wouldn't wanna do that?

What I'm trying to say it, it's a highly esteemed job, just because so few have ever done it, if you look at it objectively, its a job just like any other. Flying a jet doesn't make you a moral paragon, either. So why is it automatically assumed that these men cannot be lying or misled? They are ordinary men, subject to the same flaws as anyone else.

Even if you know a person well they can lie to you and fool you. What do we have to go on about these people? Their former occupations and nothing else. Please don't be so blind and believe everything just because an astronaut said it.

Well the Russian Cosmonauts have been yelling "fire" in the past few years and many have not focused on their claims to be so convincing, but when NASA astronauts yell "fire" its very convincing.

Cosmonauts claim UFOs are real

The History Channel: Soviet UFO secrets revealed

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I now know why disclosure will never happen, at least not anytime soon. It's not because of the non-believers. It's because of the people who do believe but can't agree on much of anything themselves. Some want to believe what mitchell says, but are quick to discredit him. Every person on earth has some dirt on them they are not proud of or have done something in their lives that the MAJORITY of people think are strange. Find someone who has never told a lie.

If everyone got together..and said we all believe mitchell...and shouted loud enough to the government and say...disprove this...let the man talk...then say, "prove him wrong." If it turns out it's all false..then that's it. We know.

You have all these different ufologists all talking about different varying levels aliens have infiltrated society. Why in the F don't they get together...put ALL their resources into one aspect of all of this...the information is so all over the place with so much BS to sift through that they basically screw themselves and everyone else in the whole process. I swear it seems like they are in competition with one another.

Cripes....if people can't put any kind of belief in one of the few people to see earth from the moon, who in the hell will u believe? It's just ridiculous to me. Most of the world can believe in some various religion with absolutely no proof but then say all of this is BS.

Make a stand people.
Quit being ignorant. If you want disclosure to happen...you gotta make it happen. Sitting on your ass complaining about someone's credibility or lack there of...it's not going to get it done.

Not trying to offend anyone...but damn...i just had to let it go.

Originally posted by Zepherian
Where the hell would anyone's career go but down after something like that?

Tell that to all the other LMPs who were selected to be the CDR on future missions. None of the other Primary LMPs were selected as backup LMPs on future missions.

It's hearsay when it comes from some anonymous poster on the internet, when it comes from an astronaut it's an account and evidence. It's a testimony. And when it comes from one as brilliant as this man seems to be it's all but a pre disclosure.

He provides no evidence and that is enough for you people?

Whatever happened to this place? It used to be that people had to had hard evidence before we believed them. Now, it appears folks here will believe anything that they hear from certain peoples mouth.

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Originally posted by Zepherian
reply to post by Nohup

 

Actually I would say his opinion is orders of magnitude better than yours and mine, because of his qualifications, experiences and contacts. He has a base knowledge much more in tune and extensive on the subject matter than the vast majority of the human race.

This statement says nothing about virtue, morals, heroes or paragons of humanity. It's just about proffession, credentials, etc.

Could be a big fat liar. But what would so many former astronauts gain by declaring ET/UFOs?
Airtime, I guess, but ... that seems like an odd career move.

Whoa! Replies coming too fast!! I'm outdated already....

He provides no evidence and that is enough for you people?

Witness testimony can put some in prison for life or get them the death penalty. So you are telling me...someone's testimony if good enough to decide a persons life or death...but not good enough for this??

He's got the info...if it's pushed enough maybe we can get that evidence.

I just left a phone message with NASA Public Affairs. Lets see if they call me back and what they have to say...

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Preposterous.
If there were "evidence" we wouldn't be having any of these discussions.

What's ATS's tagline...
"alternative topics" such as conspiracies, UFO's, paranormal, secret societies, political scandals, new world order, terrorism, and dozens of related topics with an impressive demographic mix of members."

You mean there used to be abunch of hard evidence for UFOs and ETs on ATS, but now there isn't?
All of us johnny-come-latelys missed the Evidence Boat?