It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by mikesingh
mike, I think both of those ATS links you referenced are possible.
But, whadda I know??
I like to think about the possible reality of a secret program, powered by back-engineered or gifted ET technology. But then, I shake my head at the 'Challenger' and 'Columbia' tragedies. Why 'stage' these events? They were PR disasters for NASA, it would seem.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
The Chinese just recently are mirroring the NASA Moon missions of the 1960s....starting with manned orbital missions, their first EVA on orbit, etc, etc. Next, they will have to learn how to rendezvous two spacecraft....assuming they are using the same rocket and spacecraft technology based on human engineering and the associated hardware, and propulsion science.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
My impression of the 1960s is: Kennedy issued a challenge, he was murdered, and many, many people wanted to carry his water after he was killed, as it came to landing humans on the Moon.
But, there was this side issue called 'IndoChina' (commonly referred to as Vietnam)....Space exploration was no longer a priority. The Public got bored, and politically it was a hot potato.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
The cost of attempting to establish a permanent Moon base is incredibly large. There was also the potential for deaths....'Apollo 1' was very embarrassing.
Originally posted by weedwhacker
I think the Apollo program, notwithstanding the tragedy of Apollo 1, was a resounding success. It accomplished most of the science it was designed to do, and all of that knowledge WILL pave the way to a permanent off-planet base for humanity.
What I see now, is a long-term strategy because of a limited budget....so, it isn't that NASA 'forgot' how to get to the Moon, they merely want to take the 'tortoise' approach....slow, steady and safe.
Originally posted by xweaponx
Did something they aren't telling us actually go down on the moon? Where we warned to never return to the moon again?
These are very interesting questions to ask our self.
Tell me what you think.
and another
2mins 10 seconds. Otto Binder former NASA employee says they went to a secret channel to communicate. Used code words regarding certain things and entities.
Otto Binder, a former NASA employee, claimed it was overheard by amateur radio enthusiasts who could access a confidential channel. Neil Armstrong - the first man to set foot on the Moon - denies it. At approximately 6-30 a.m. on 17th March 1990, a radio ham from Baltimore, Donald Ratsch, was listening to transmissions from Discovery when he heard the following:"Houston, this is Discovery, we have a problem. We have a fire". Shortly after Ratsch claims he heard "Houston this is Discovery, we still have the Alien spacecraft under observance".A former mission specialist with NASA , Bob Oeschler conducted an intense investigation into these events and concluded that the message had in fact been broadcast from the vicinity of Fort Meade in Maryland, an area where the US National Security Agency had it's base. The NSA has long been interested in UFOs and Oeschler was of the opinion that the transmission was a deliberately set-up hoax for some intelligence purpose.
And if you really do think about it. NASA hasn't been back to the moon since. They always send people to the space station but to The Moon again. They've never been back. I'm not saying there are aliens or being on The Moon but I'm just exposing the fact that NASA isn't telling us the true story of what really happening on the moon and why NASA hasn't been back since.
I know someone asked NASA why haven't they been back. And to this day NASA has NEVER answered our question.....
[edit on 25-6-2008 by xweaponx]
Originally posted by silver6ix
Probably the better question is why so many nations are now rushing to goto the Moon.
I wouldnt claim to know the answer but as I see it theres only a few logical answers:
i) The NASA landings were genuinely a HOAX and now that sufficient time has passed NASA has decided to do the real deal.
ii) NASA found something on the moon and is now trying to get back before anyone else.
iii) NASA hoaxed the moon landing and is now going back to hoax the "evidence" of their previous landing before Russia and China and Europe go up there and ask questions about it.
Originally posted by silver6ix
All said and done we have at this time Russia, China, Europe, UK, USA all in a mad race to send a manned mission to the moon.
According to previous information theres no interest in the moon, it has no valuable minerals, no potential for bacterial life, and really i struggle to find a single logical reason for the interest in going back there by any nation never mind the man irrational rush to send everyone there. It does make you wonder what the truth is.
Originally posted by silver6ix
We all know that Mars is the intresting world, possiblities of bacterial life, rare minerals, ice, fossil data, it has everything that SHOULD be of interest to science. So why all attention to the moon now thats the real question everyone should be asking.
Originally posted by silver6ix
We have some key respected players in NASAs former stable coming out making various claims about what NASA found on the moon. This could very easily be disinformation designed to spur up interest in the new Moon missions, cover for the questions asked about previous moon missions or an outside chance in hell it might actually be true.
Personally I wouldnt care to try speculate. I do admit to being very fascinated by the current interest in the Moon though. Theres no sensible reason I can think of for all the current money being spent on manned Moon missions, unless someone can tell me why they think this should suddenly be a huge priority given wht we know about Mars and the Moon.
If they were all racing to get to Mars i could understand it, but the Moon just makes me suspicious as hell. Nasa in particular has no reason at all for going back there.
Everyone assumes that the moon truly has 1/6 of earth's gravity.
I put forth that gravity is mostly similar to surface tension....
Besides the concept of being warned by aliens that we couldn't go back to the moon....
...."neutral point" in space where the two gravity wells cancel each other out. Initially it was assumed that it was around 20,000 miles from the moon, but during the apollo missions, it was stated to be at 40,000 miles. This points to a gravity that is around 65% of earth's, maybe more.
(There is a ton of inconsistencies with the lunar landing video, not least of which the fact that the film is at 50% speed)
If the gravity of the moon was truly 1/6th of earths, the lunar lander would have needed a wheel base that was much larger than it was, or it would tip over going up a crater.
In space there is a vacuum. This means that you cannot see stars in space, because there is no atmosphere for the light to break into visible waves in.