If Barak Obama "Scares You", you're a wimp

Lately, I’m getting the rage over Republicans saying “Barak Obama scares me”.

Really, tough guy? Aren’t you the bad*ss type person that is protecting us from the evil in the world?

1. The type of person who wants to put a boot in terrorists *sses.
2. The type of person who would cheer at “Osama Bin Laden Dead or Alive”
3. The type of person who says it’s O.K. to torture people as long as it protects precious American lives. (We all know our lives are more valuable than everybody else’s)
4. The type of person who defines leaving Iraq at a certain date as surrender and defines victory as…? What was your definition again?
5. The type of person who thinks we’re better off bombing Iran; killing thousands of innocent Iranians, risking countless American lives, costing the taxpayer billions and risking WWIII instead of having talks without pre-conditions where, if met. would negate the reason for the talks in the first place.
6. The type of person who has the courage to defend marriage against the evil gays
7. The type of person who is courageously Pro-Life**, yet against paying for all the extra social services and programs that the resulting explosion of babies born to the poor or otherwise ill suited would require. **Pro-Life exceptions: Evil Doers including but not limited to; terrorists and otherwise really bad people.

For all your *sskicking ways, a black, liberal, junior Senator scares you? I bet you’d wet your little panties if you actually ever faced real danger.

I’m not buying your little act; like you were objective and you considered for one moment voting for Obama but, he said something that scared you.

How about McCain’s:
“Bomb, Bomb, Bomb…. Bomb, Bomb, Iran”
Or
Possible hundred years in Iraq
Or
Co-authoring of an immigration bill in flagrant disregard for American citizen’s interests
Or
His belief that the sanctity of marriage is so important (despite his own previous divorce) that gays aren’t entitled to it. To hell with the American constitutional right of “ the Pursuit of happiness”.
Or
For all his pro military talk, was against increasing GI Bill benefits for soldiers because he was afraid too many would actually get out after their tour and use it. No sh*t!

What horrible things has Barak Obama said that has made you so fearful? Oh, Reverend Wright, Michele not really, really proud of America like Cindy McCain, he wasn’t wearing a “Made in China” American Flag pin, maybe a secret Muslim (Come on, he must be with a name like that!), Isn’t it somehow creepy his middle name is Hussein? I mean we did go to war with a country whose evil leader had the same name. That must mean something bad, right? And between just you and me, He’s black. Not that I dislike or am afraid of black people or anything, I’m just a little uncomfortable about them acting, you know, all up in my face or entitled or something because one of them is the President.

Get my point? Don’t get all side tracked with stupid crap. What did U.S. Senator Barak Obama himself say that scared you so?

I humbly await your stupid replies.






By the way, if you know a Courageous Great American Victory Freedom Monger who is scared of Senator Barak Obama, email him/her this post so that maybe they can confront their fears and come out a better, stronger, and less fearful Courageous Great American Victory Freedom Monger. We do need more of them to protect our weak, little selves.

though i agree wiht your assumptions

you really should change how you approach people with your opinions.

name calling
slander
anger
attempts to condescend


wont go over well here.

People who fear obama are forgiven. Its human nature to fear that which is unknown.

I used to be very very very anti-obama. A few people here can vauge for that.

But the more i read about the man
the more of his speeches i listened to

the more i realized i was wrong about him
and that he is the candidate i need to make thigns better for myself and my wife in this country.

ill give you a star for effort - but no flag

Try restructuring your post so its not insulting.
When you degrade yourself to insulting the opposite party of politics, you lower yourself to their level of shenanigans.

Here is my "stupid" reply.

It's not Obama that scares me.
It's his policies.

I'm sure his heart is tied to his brain. And he actually believes that it's the government's job to provide much more than basic support for it's citizens.
The end result will be a population with an unnatural dependence on strangers in DC, that have taken money from strangers in Kansas, Alaska, Alabama, Texas, California..you get the picture.

We all know how efficient government bureaucracies are!
Who will mind the treasury, now that voters have learned to vote that money back to themselves, via a candidate like Obama?

[edit on 21-6-2008 by spacedoubt]

How about his socialist policies and his anti-liberty ideas?

That scary enough?

care to enlighten us on such issues you speak of?

The only thing i find scary about Obama is his wife

and its just because i personally think she's scary looking.

Originally posted by Andrew E. Wiggin
care to enlighten us on such issues you speak of?

The only thing i find scary about Obama is his wife

and its just because i personally think she's scary looking.

Was that a reply to me?

If so, ATS Thread Barack Obama: Socialist

What scares me about Barack Obama are his obvious brilliance, and the fact that I do not know who built him. I therefore cannot ascertain his agenda, despite what I have read of his posted public position papers.

An obvious buffoon like George Bush, can do a lot of harm, as he has so aptly demonstrated. But a brilliant and exceptionally capable man with a magnificent team behind him as we have not seen in our history; well if they were ignoble, they would make the damage of George Bush look insignificant.

If Obama is genuine, and noble, if his agenda is real, it does not matter whether you agree with his specific policies. America will thrive and become once more for the people.

So there you have it choose inept destroyers who were only half capable of ruining our country in a single presidency, or take a magnificent chance on someone with 10 times the potential, in either direction.

I have chosen, and will take the chance, because we cannot sustain another round of the buffoons. In truth it is no choice at all!

And I am no wimp.



[edit on 21-6-2008 by Cyberbian]

Response to Andrew E. Wiggin comment:
"though i agree with your assumptions
you really should change how you approach people with your opinions.
"

I've been a Republican in the past, I know them I was one of them that I speak of. Reasoned opinions of the educated doesn't work with them. You seem to be an intelligent person but, you need to know with the ignorant scum that has gotten our country in the mess it is today, it is only with hard, venomous, vicious, repeated attacks that you will defeat them.

Response to Spacedoubt:

"I'm sure his heart is tied to his brain. And he actually believes that it's the government's job to provide much more than basic support for it's citizens. "

Many people believe that, that is why we have Fema, FAA, USDA. As citizens of the richest country on earth, we should have the right to expect:
Help in Disasters
Safe Drinking Water (Aids medication and Viagra in our water)
Safe Food (Attack of the Killer Tomatoes lately!)
Safe Products sold to us (ie not so much lead!)
Public Education that isn't such a failure.

The truth is, since 2000 America is on the fast track to turd city. Are we just going to sit back and treat this like a regular election and a regular debate on the issues? What's happened in the last 7+ years is criminal and I'm not going to sit back and debate "Is Barak scary?". Times are a changing, if they charge me a tax for it, then I expect it to work. And "Pork barrell spending" is "Stealing". Things will change as soon as we make them change.

If Barak Obama scares somone but what Bush has done to this country doesn't, well then that person is a retard and deserving of all my venom and spite.

reply to post by Cyberbian


Interesting mindset you have. I hadn't considered someone with deep reservations about Barak Obama and who made a decision to support him despite that.

What you speak of is the underlying campaign against Obama. The Republicans cannot win on ideas and issues due to their selling out their own core values while in power. They are using Fear, the weapon they have used ever since they've had power to win. Fear of terrorism, fear of being un-patriotic, fear of the unkown.

Barak Obama is unknown compared to McCain and Fear will be used the entire election. That is why I feel it is important to shut down the "Obama Scares me" campaign.

Originally posted by Exmar

Response to Spacedoubt:

"I'm sure his heart is tied to his brain. And he actually believes that it's the government's job to provide much more than basic support for it's citizens. "

Many people believe that, that is why we have Fema, FAA, USDA. As citizens of the richest country on earth, we should have the right to expect:
Help in Disasters
Safe Drinking Water (Aids medication and Viagra in our water)
Safe Food (Attack of the Killer Tomatoes lately!)
Safe Products sold to us (ie not so much lead!)
Public Education that isn't such a failure.

The truth is, since 2000 America is on the fast track to turd city. Are we just going to sit back and treat this like a regular election and a regular debate on the issues? What's happened in the last 7+ years is criminal and I'm not going to sit back and debate "Is Barak scary?". Times are a changing, if they charge me a tax for it, then I expect it to work. And "Pork barrell spending" is "Stealing". Things will change as soon as we make them change.

If Barak Obama scares somone but what Bush has done to this country doesn't, well then that person is a retard and deserving of all my venom and spite.

I agree on your list. with the exception of Public Education.
I think it's a failure BECAUSE it is so controlled at the Federal level.
Perhaps a State/Federal compromise might be in order when it comes to Funding Schools. The Feds are too disconnected from the States.

You know that with each Federal program there will need to be employees that are charged with handling all of these budgets. There goes some of your Tax money right there, paying the wages of bean counters, and pencil pushers.

There is also the risk of improprieties (friends funding friends). it always happens, it always will. Power and control over money does that to people.
Does that mean we would also need overseers? Yes...poof..more employees, more tax money gone!




BTW
Please stop with the generalized name calling so we can have a civil discussion here.

Americans who work hard for their money don't want it taken by Obama to "redistrubute the wealth" to countries like Africa and others. It is not America's responsibility to solve the world hunger problem, it will always be there anyway.

Obama is very inexperienced and what is scary is he actually thinks he knows what he doing!! Though he has shown absolutely nothing in three years to show otherwise. He voted "present" more than 120 times and more than he took a stand on something. When it came to Muslims and Africa, that is where he took his pro-stances.

Obama is a Marxist who wants an even bigger dysfunctional government and higher taxes. Even if your money does go to poor countries, it will be taken by the local militias and the people won't get Jack.

All Obama cares about is his image. He doesn't care about the American people, would sell them out and throw them under the Bus too, just like all his shady friends.

Obama is scary. Scary with inexperience, scary with mistakes, and not even in the highest office of the land.

Ohhhh very scary!

Fear sells. Oh wait that's the Bush and McCain marketing plan.

Uh, nice pitch, but no one is catching that around here. Maybe you should try it on old people down at the nursing home somewhere in the deep south.

reply to post by jetxnet


"Americans who work hard for their money don't want it taken by Obama to "redistrubute the wealth" to countries like Africa and others."

I think the Americans you speak of prefer it to go to Iraq, is that right? That's where McCain wants our money to go. Me, I'm a "socialist" and I'd prefer it stay in the country and go to maybe healthcare or education.


"Obama is scary. Scary with inexperience, scary with mistakes, and not even in the highest office of the land."

Do you consider the Iraq war a mistake? I want to know where your coming from because Barak Obama was against it from the start not McCain. John McCain has no executive experience only legislative. In fairness, His wife Cindy has executive experience as CEO of a beer company!

Republicans can't fear monger people into thinking the Democrats are the only Big Government fans out there. Republicans presided over the largest increase in government in generations (Department of Homeland Security)

reply to post by spacedoubt

Spacedoubt
"I agree on your list. with the exception of Public Education.
I think it's a failure BECAUSE it is so controlled at the Federal level.
Perhaps a State/Federal compromise might be in order when it comes to Funding Schools. The Feds are too disconnected from the States. "

I agree with you. I believe we need to expect better from our government, not specifically the federal government only. Bush ran on states rights and immediately undercut them with "No child left Behind". That should be abolished not reformed.

Restoring States rights is one of the quickest ways to restoring individual rights. Local and State politics is easier for people to influence than Federal.

As far as the generalized name calling goes, I am referring Republicans and my disdain is for the Republican agenda that I hear mindlessly repeated by Republican friends.

The vast majority of ATSers seem to me educated, openminded and for the most part respectful. None of that applies to or works with the people I'm talking about.

[edit on 21-6-2008 by Exmar]

I am all for states rights. If the country is to be for the people, then we need regime change.

Do you think Bush has been pro individual? He is for the Corporations.
Why would McCain be any better.

Obama is for individuals, he may not be for you or for me. He may be your worst fear of him he may be for black individuals. Go ahead and make that assumption. It will not affect the outcome of a rational decision.

He is still regime change. Still pro individual. I really don't think he is a racist. Do you think he hates his mother? I think he loves his mother.



[edit on 21-6-2008 by Cyberbian]

reply to post by Cyberbian

Do you think Bush has been pro individual? He is for the Corporations.
Why would McCain be any better.

Bush has destroyed States rights and individual rights, he destroyed Fema, FAA, FDA, hell just about every every agency in place that is supposed to protect us.

We have to state the fact that McCain is not going to clean house on all the Bush appointees and that is why McCain will be more of the same. We need a reporter to ask McCain "Are you going to keep all the Bush appointees or replace them?"

Originally posted by spacedoubt
It's not Obama that scares me.
It's his policies.

Unfortunately you are in the minority then.

What I've seen expressed on this site regarding Obama is strictly related to fear and not his policies which is what should be debated in the first place.

I mean why are we talking about photoshopped birth certificates and sharia law being enforced if you can break him down on what he actually has done? Fear is the motivation and goal behinds the threads I've seen.

Neither candidate is really that impressive, so all we have is their policies to work with.

- Lee

The OP's attitude is precisely why I not only will not vote for Barack Obama, I will also do all I can to make sure he isn't elected. Remember, its not only Republicans who are against him, over half of the Democrats who voted in the primary didn't vote for him and a large portion will not vote for him in the fall.

The condescending, bullying tone isn't helping your candidate. If he knows how his supporters are treating voters in this country and doesn't call off these attacks then that is even more reason not to trust his judgement.

You see, we aren't so much afraid of an inexperienced Senator as we are a leader who has followers who are easily unhinged and think they know more about how this world works than people twice their age.

My mother always told me, "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Many Obama supporters would help their candidate greatly if they would heed that age-old advice. Then again, I believe the damage is already done.

Exmar, I agree with you, I got the feeling that you did not understand that.
Thank you.

Seeker Mom, You confuse me.

You seem a very enlightened and sensitive person, and yet you would hold it against one person the actions of someone who is unrelated but in favor of that person.

I hope you are just being the good mother figure and whipping us bad boys into shape!

You have your work cut out but don't give up on us please!

[edit on 21-6-2008 by Cyberbian]

Originally posted bySeeker Mom
The OP's attitude is precisely why I not only will not vote for Barack Obama

Sorry but that to me is a pretty lame perspective.

You should be smart enough to realize that the OP doesn't represent the Obama campaign anymore than those threads calling Obama a dangerous Muslim represent McCain. Both sides are expressly against such attack tactics.

If your vote is swayed that easily over a man yelling in the street that he hates McCain's guts then you really should reevaluate how you approach politics and elections.

Issues matter not the rhetoric of a few lone gunmen.

Remember, its not only Republicans who are against him, over half of the Democrats who voted in the primary didn't vote for him and a large portion will not vote for him in the fall.

I know there is a lot of hurt feelings and some have been pretty sore losers but if they want McCain in the White House to prove a point, then I think thats a dangerous and egotistical gamble to take.

Vote for McCain because you believe in him not to spite a political party. That cheapens the whole democratic process and reduces it to childish tit-for-tats. Much like Rush tried to do when encouraging Republicans to vote for Hillary in large numbers to keep the fighting in the Democratic party going.

She received hundreds of thousands of registered republican votes so keep in mind not everyone that voted for Hillary was even a democrat and planned to vote for one.

That too should be noted.

You see, we aren't so much afraid of an inexperienced Senator as we are a leader who has followers who are easily unhinged and think they know more about how this world works than people twice their age.

Have you LOOKED through this forum lately?
Obama supporters don't corner the market on the "unhinged American".

Even still most are pretty harmless and somewhat silly. I haven't seen anything to show that supporters of either candidate are maniacal dangerous nut-jobs.

Can you point to some examples please?

- Lee