We Weren't Designed To Eat Meat, Here Is Proof

I notice the picture has no traits of omnivors. Well here is a suggestion take a look at baboons. Look at their teeth, their hands and their overall physiology. No claws yet huge canines. hmmmm

Morally wrong to kill animals? I don't think it's worng at all if it's for food.

It's wrong, if it is not necessary. Killing animals is NOT necessary! Millions of healthy vegetarians and vegans are the living proof.

I have not hunted yet, but I want to learn how to do so, for that very reason, the satisfaction of hunting, killing and then eating what I killed.

Posts like these make me wonder whether there is a cheetah, lion, aligator on the other side, or is it a human being.
Honestly - are we MORE developed than these animals, or not? I hope no one says animals are more developed than humans. And so, do we have to learn from them? From a less-developed beings?

It amuses me when people try to tell me that people and animals are all on the same level, yet get angry when people do things that other animals do (such as killing and eating other animals)

What?! Who says that they are on the same level? How the heck did he/she came to such a conclusion

Plants are alive, as well. Something has to die in order for life to continue.

Plants do not think or feel. They do not even have instincts. But still they have a soul. Eating a plant, IMO, helps you AND the plant, because since it travels thru your body, from the spiritual point of view, it's a great pleasure it's soul to experience such a thing. In other words, it is happy that you use it to feed yourself. In other words, it is happy that it is helping you.
It is also scientifically proven (with some special photograph I do not remember the name of), that if you cut a piece off some plant, the "spirit" still stays in that cutted piece, for several hours - days. That is, however NOT the case with animals, if you cut some part off an animal's body, not only you will cause it a very much pain, but the spirit of this animal will not reside any longer in that cutted part. Also, if you kill the whole animal, the spirit escapes INSTANTLY. Just realize, that eating meat means eating a DEAD ANIMAL. While eating plants means eating them still with their spirit inside.

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Your signature says all I need to know about the validity of anything you say.
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Stop bringing religion or any other sort of 'soul' nonsense into the discussion please. This was not a post on the validity of veganism, but on the validity of people who eat meat.

The Original Poster was proven beyond-a-doubt, incorrect, and that's all that need be said.

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no - you show me proof that it does - as positive claimant - burden of proof is i you

please do not attempt to transfer the burden again - it makes you look very dishonest

Your signature says all I need to know about the validity of anything you say.

Whatever It's your choice.

Stop bringing religion or any other sort of 'soul' nonsense into the discussion please.

I'm not bringing religion and that's not "'soul' nonsense"; what I wrote about is scientifically proven. (I can't google it right now but some will probably know what I talk about)

keeping a closed mind it not a way to obtain knowledge.

Yup, that's the reason, even thought everyone around would love me to eat meat as I did for all my previous life, why I realized 2 years ago that killing animals for food is not necessary, and I quit supporting it.

The Original Poster was proven beyond-a-doubt, incorrect

Where and how?
The title says "weren't designed", it does not say "did not evolve" or "should/shouldn't".
Teeth says we "can", while everything other says we weren't designed to. Being a vegetarian - eating eggs and milk, wouldn't make you miss any vitamin, mineral, anything. That's what IMO tells the truth whether we HAVE TO kill animals or not.

EDIT: I found it, it is called Kirlian Photography. Note that also cooked vegetables have little to no life in them, just like meat.

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reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


Did you even read my post?

I said primarily herbivorous foods. E.G. Majority plants. Which is UNLIKE people today who may be eating majority meats which could possible damage there health, just as eating only plants can damage there health.

World a better place... because it takes an infitely large amount of food to feed cows at bovine university, which otherwise could be fed other people.

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I considered myself uneducated about meat eating for most of my life. I never took in the plight of the animals I was eating, I just ate what I grew up eating, until a few months ago. I can no longer buy into mass meat production, or consuming the meat from such an activity. I no longer eat meat other than fish. I started out cutting down to just chicken and fish, but now I only eat fish, but I am fine eating just veggies now. I do take vitamin supplements though now.

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Yes, but what do you think would damage the health more and sooner?
Eating only vegetables, or eating only meat?

reply to post by Disney


I don't know, I never said you should do either, nor was I comparing them.

This sums it up for me:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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I think people are forgetting alot here. We have 8 front teeth (besides the canines) that arnt flat, those are designed to rip apart something tuff...like meat. We also forget that before we were farmers, we were hunters. Of course there is vegans in this day and age, but not in prehistoric. Those humans hunted animals for food, before they had learned how to farm.

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True carnivores (and omnivores) salivate about the idea of eating whole prey animals when they see them. Humans do not.

Speak for yourself, my dear. Whenever I see sambhur or wild boar on the hoof my mouth waters. Both, sadly, are protected animals in my country.

And the smell of roasting meat is particularly droolsome, don't you find? I really can't remember ever salivating over the smell of boiling cabbage.

Originally posted by Danger Girl
Our bodies are designed to eat grains and plants.
So why do we eat meat?
When did we start doing it and why?
Will we be healthier if we stop?

I can answer a questions here.

You asked when and why.

The when is here in the Bible.
Leviticus 11
1And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,

2Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.

3Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

5And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

6And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

7And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.

8Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

9These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.

10And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:

11They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.

12Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.

13And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,

14And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;

15Every raven after his kind;

16And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,

17And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,

18And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,

19And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

20All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.

21Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;

22Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.

23But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.

24And for these ye shall be unclean: whosoever toucheth the carcase of them shall be unclean until the even.

25And whosoever beareth ought of the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.

26The carcases of every beast which divideth the hoof, and is not clovenfooted, nor cheweth the cud, are unclean unto you: every one that toucheth them shall be unclean.

27And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the even.

28And he that beareth the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: they are unclean unto you.

29These also shall be unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind,

30And the ferret, and the chameleon, and the lizard, and the snail, and the mole.

31These are unclean to you among all that creep: whosoever doth touch them, when they be dead, shall be unclean until the even.

Well someone slept through science class. Uhhua hua hua!

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We were not designed!!!

We are the product of millions of years of evolution and natural selection.

reply to post by derfred33


Please do not forget that evolution is a theory. Theory made by scientists, who fail to see "how else could it be".

I believe that all the history of mankind, as proposed by mainstream scientists, is one huge LIE.

(explaining would be OT.. )

As a vegetarian I don't cover up the fact that we are omniverous by nature. We aren't 'meant' to be purely vegetarian, nor are we purely 'meant' to eat meat.

What I will say though is our modern consumption of meat is absolutely ridiculous. We eat it too much, we eat it too often, we eat the wrong types and bad cuts and they're cooked in a way that is unhealthy in general.

By 'we' I mean the western population in general, I'm obviously vegetarian, there are exceptions too etc.

So why am I vegetarian if I think we're omnivores by nature? Because I don't think that by nature we're supposed to be using electricity, burning dinosaurs, plants and millenia of old solar energy to meet our friends who live 5 minutes down the road near the city-sized shopping mall. I don't think we're naturally supposed to be able to communicate instantly globally either (like I'm doing now!).

We're an intelligent species, we have moved beyond 'the natural' in so many respects, yet people still snub their noses at vegetarians who will not eat meat for ethical reasons.

It's also worth mentioning that the methods we use for mass meat or animal product consumption today are ridiculously unnatural and harmful to the animals. This is something I feel is important because many 'meat eaters' will tend to say "IT'S NATURAL TO EAT MEAT SO SHUT UP", while turning a blind eye to the apparently 'natural' steroid pumped cows packed into tiny corridors standing in their own filth from birth to death, lucky to move at all.

Just some (vegetarian!) food for thought there to those who eat meat... I'm not here to flame, there's no reason to insult people for eating meat. If anything we should be annoyed at parents and such for so often (literally?) pushing meat down our throats, although companies who produce it don't help either.

As for deficiency comments, that's such a non-issue. There are so many ways to counter that that require little or no effort and if you're particularly lazy, supplements still cost less than meat does!

Theres my 2c.

Edit: I have to say too, I'm not trying to step on toes (although I'm Atheist/Agnostic anyway) but this is one instance where I have to openly reject bible-related religiousness. I dislike it as a justification for harming animals, or others, or nations... or whatever else.

I'm sorry to you out there who believe it but I do not think it is fair to ride on the word of that book for justification of eating meat alone, particularly when so much of that book's content has been contorted and twisted to suit 'the Church's' purposes as it is. Twist it to show some empathy of the animals for once, ack! XD

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I don't understand why people suppose that Vegetarians are weak and unhealthy and couldn't last out an "extreme survival situation." Tell that to a Chinese Buddhist from an isolated Cha'an Monastery. Some of them walk off into the wilderness for years at a time and survive.

For a start, in hand-to-hand combat just two of them could probably physically destroy every single meat-eater who has posted in this thread, simultaneously. So Vegetarianism hardly equates to weakness or poor health. Although I haven't been a Vegetarian myself for a great deal of time (a month, at best), I'm feeling healthier now than I ever have done before. I'm certainly not feeling weak, and I'm 6ft 4" and 229 pounds.

Secondly, with enough grains, beans and pickled vegetables, stored properly, a Vegetarian could theoretically last a very long time in a survival situation -- providing there is water somewhere and other plant items that can be foraged. Also, in extreme survival situations it is usually required of people to eat that which they normally do not. You eat whatever there is, and in an extreme survival situation I would eat a creature, if there was absolutely nothing else and I absolutely had to consume something.

You could call that cheating, but I'd call it reason.

Phooey......Blah blah....I will eat meat, and enjoy it. Animals are food not pets.