Japanese invent car that runs on water

Originally posted by GhostR1der
reply to post by sty

 

You can just use the English website version... not translated with google

www.genepax.co.jp...

edit: Doesn't have translated schematics as such though... damn.

[edit on 16/6/08 by GhostR1der]

Hm..the english version has not got that nice little animation of the process that the japanese website had I guess that is a page that is still a work in progress.

You can now read the mission statement though.

Our mission is to develop technology and products for efficient production and use of energy.
By "efficient", we mean ecologically and economically efficient.
Ecological and Economical Energy is our business.
Our goal is to create energy that is not taxing on our natural enviroment.

With water and WES, we can produce clean energy constantly.
With water and WES, we can solve the global warming issue.
With water and WES, we can enjoy civilization while preserving nature.

Energy made from water.
This is not a dream story anymore.
We hope many people will join us in our challenge to promote the use of our WES, for the better future of the earth.

Edit to add snap you have just found that out too on your edit.



[edit on 16-6-2008 by sherpa]

As for those who feel this could be a hoax, there is no doubt in my mind that it isn't. How ever oil monopolies around the world will kill this invention. We have the technology to have environmentally friendly cars, and not the ones that merely reduce the use of oil, but get rid of it all together like this.

This is what will happen to alternative fuel sources until the government decides to stop being dickheads.


www.sonyclassics.com...

a very informative documentary.

i can't read all the posts so i don't know if anyone has said this, but if you put saltwater into this engine, and evaporated the water out of it in the process which has been described, you would end up with salt that you would have to filter out of your tank. more importantly, you would actually be INCREASING THE FRESH WATER SUPPLY OF THE EARTH. if all engines were changed over to this, would we filter out enough water to stop any type of drinking water shortage we might possibly have?

Originally posted by yahn goodey
i wonder how well these fuel cells or any water powered car will work in a cold climate say like in canada or russia in winter temperatures that can be -30 fahrenheit for weeks sometimes ?

perhaps water powered/fuel cell cars are just for hot climates only?
put up on blocks for winter and drive in summer ?

And now you see why lawyers will never let them happen. People driving around dumping water on the roads in January in Chicago just won't get it.

mikell

reply to post by mikellmikell


Either you add antifreeze or heat the water. Keeping water liquid is science that we master last time I checked.

And the car will emit a minute quantity of water vapor, probably heated, I doubt it will ice up the roads more than the natural weather will do anyway. Plus it might just have a feedback into the water tank instead of an actual exaust.

You guys are grasping at straws.


[edit on 16-6-2008 by Zepherian]

Firstly, the japanese didnt invent this technology. If you do some reaserch, this technology has been around for a while.

Secondly, it should say runs on hydrogen. The way it works is the water is seperated into H and O2. The H goes to the pistons for combustion and combination with the air, mostly containing O2. The stuff coming out of the tail pipe is almost pure water.

reply to post by styI do not believe this. It is a violation of several laws of nature. Water is burned hydrogen which has already given up its' latent energy. I will not believe this until I see it and an explanation as to where the energy comes from

Originally posted by sty


Friday the 13th not necessary bad! The financial news are reporint the the japanesse achievement : the watercar! I hope this time it is not just claim, and we will see the ideea into the economical cycle. Sure, Japan does not have petrol resources, nor military power to secure it.. so I expect they will try everything possible to run their economy without petrol

The VIDEO on Reuters, here - it looks serious to me

www.reuters.com...



www.financialexpress.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Not the first. See Honda's Fuel Cell Vehicle

what i find interesting is

this is being declared a new technology of sorts by the company

so as far as all of the debunking... like other people said just because things were done one way in the past and provided a certain result does not guarantee that there wont be successful ways of achieving that goal in the future, if that was the way things were we would have no technology and no inventors

we have known about hydrogen technology for years, to doubt that they have finally furthered(I'm not going to say perfected as i dont think that is the case) the technology is an abomination of logic according to our knowledge of science today.


water in most places on earth except the deserts and some tundra's is available in abundance, theres even inner cities that have access to rivers/canals/etc, not to mention rain water
while i do agree water will be regulated (or at least the attempt will be made by the govt) i truly can not imagine that the government will ever enslave us all enough to be able to control water, for it that point in time ever comes, we have MUCH more dire problems to deal with then energy problems

i feel we are in some way destined for evolution, why? i dont know

but for some reason, we are evolving, we are changing.

with the invention of oil, we created the world we have today, now i think is the time in which a new world will be created. a society independent of the chains and constrictions we have now could take off like the big bang.


people say the big oil companies are too greedy for this, that theyre too smart to let that happen because they will lose too much money.

in my opinion thats not true, if big oil is as powerful as so many of us state then they would have the intelligence to know that eventually we are going to evolve past oil, that is ineveitable, so if they know this and they are genius, they will support this invest in the situation and will still have the same power, they will just rule a different way

An authoritive government can, and has in the past, enslaved people to the point it was illegal for someone to go more than a few miles from his village. Controlling the use of water in a tyrannical scenario is perfectly valid, so never assume the ambitions of a tyrant are unachievable, for that assumption makes his work half as hard.

Not only do we need the technology we will also need to defend it from the inevitable onslaught of opression it will come under.

[edit on 16-6-2008 by Zepherian]

This sounds to me like the the so-called "Magic Pill" that emerged during the fuel crisis of the seventies.

NZ TV did a live coverage a few days ago where a couple of kids had modified an old Ford Falcon (4L 6Cyl to run on hydrogen from electrolysed water. They gave them a full tank of gas and sent them off to drive around the city streets until they burned 100Km. They also sent a standard Falcon of the same model which hadn't been modified. The water model returned 4.9L per 100Km and the standard version over 16L for the same 100Km.

Book: A Practical Guide to Free Energy Devices
Author Patrick J Kelly
See Chapter 10: Automotive Systems

You can build your own at home or buy ready made kits in the US from a few hundred to thousands of dollars. Its technology thats been around for years.

The limits are on how much gas you can produce. Its difficult to get enough from just 12V to power a 6cyl unless you go to multiple seriesed cells, but you can run a 1600cc totally on water from 12V except you have to fool the oxygen sensor and retard the ignition past tdc as hydrogen burns instantly. With tuned inverter technology you can get enormous quantities of hydrogen out of water to run bigger vehicles.

Originally posted by Ji_Ranz
You can build your own at home or buy ready made kits in the US from a few hundred to thousands of dollars. Its technology thats been around for years.

What's the point though? Why not just run the car from the battery? It will be much more efficient than using the battery to create hydrogen then burning the hydrogen.

Cut out the middle man.

well,if the watercar would work then I expect we would be obligated to fit our cars with GPS and we would pay tax according to how much we travel. This will be on the top of Road tax . Bit like the very old Catholic church that would ask you money for your beloved to get out of hell, then more money again to send your beloved one to heaven

Guys, the water isn't the fuel at all.
The cell is made from metal hydrides, which react with water to produce hydrogen gas. The hydrogen gas (caused by the reaction between the hydride ion H- and Water [H-(aq) + H2O(l) => H2(g) + OH-(aq)]) is pumped through a fuel cell to produce electricity. The products of the hydrogen reacting with the air is water, and this is either vented to the atmosphere or condensed back into the solution. What is left behind is the same water that you start with, but loaded with hydroxide ions.

Therefore the energy doesn't come from the water, but from the breakdown of the Metal Hydrides that the cell is made from. The cell will eventually need replacing. Undoubtedly, when this occurs, Genepax will simply say that the unit needs a service due to wear and tear. Then they will take the unit and replace the Metal Hydride in it, and the customer goes on his/her merry way, under the delusion that it is powered by water.

There is one single thing about the original article which to me, signals this is a hoax.

No Patent!

Which to me says they simply do not have a car which runs on water

This is the first video footage I have come across about this I am hoping more comes along as things progress.

Originally posted by sir_chancealot

There was a guy who showed it on 20/20 or 60 minutes. In a totally unrelated coincidence, he was murdered just weeks after that show aired. (and yes, that last sentence was sarcasm)

source dude.. internet rumor doesn't count.
This is BUNK and it is not true. This is standard BS line.
Note: I am assuming by "sarcastic" you mean the "unrelated" part and not the "murdered" part.