Sgt. Clifford E. Stone Answers Your Questions

reply to post by crackerjack


Sorry folks I have been busy trying to get Clifford book re-printed. To answer the question about anti-gravity, there were a few good official documents about electrogravitics.

• Townsend Brown
• Hermann Oberth
• QED quantum electrodynamics
• H. E. Puthoff

This is to name a few. I mention about quantum physic, because our visitors told Clifford, it’s all about that, if you understand QP. They said if you understand that, then interplanetary travel is easier to understand.

I’m in the process of trying to get more scientists involved. It’s hard because you got to keep out of the classified realm of things.

God bless,
Joe Z.

Originally posted by Joe Z

....because our visitors are 10,000 to 1 million years more in advance than us depending on the species.

God Bless,
Joe Z.

Hi Joez

Still hllariously funny!!!

Wow! ^fascinating!

They would be earth years calibrated and adjusted by our genius visitors I guess??? Based on... number of earth years in existance?

When humans have progresed from first manned airplane to space travel in just over last 100yrs! What possible value could it be to say something stupid as "advanced 1 million"... if you or Cliff heard them say that?? ... they arn't very bright ......as it is meaningless!!!

If they are that advanced how come Cliff was able to avoid and rescue an abbuction... simply by using a aerosol can???? Again they can't be very bright?

Or is THAT 'true story" fiction TOO????

reply to post by Has2b


I believe that what Has2b is saying is based on some logic, the truth is that futurologits' predictions for this century talk about issues like "transhumanisn" and "singularity", "The technological singularity is a theoretical future point of unprecedented technological progress, caused in part by the ability of machines to improve themselves using artificial intelligence" and improve oursleves I would suppose. "Transhumanism is a term often used as a synonym for "human enhancement", is an international, intellectual and cultural movement supporting the use of science and technology to enhance human mental and physical abilities and aptitudes"...So if these things could occur in this century...then how would our visitors be like? Would they abduct people for, what?, DNA samples, when probably they could synthesize their own from scratch, really, if they are capable of intergalactic travel, they could probably create all sorts of life forms, and cattle mutilations? for what purpose?
I try to have an open mind and I've seen the Disclosure Project and believe there are many people, whose testimony, should be given credibility...but we need more tangible proofs, because if not this would turn into some sort of religion.

reply to post by jjpaxton


We aren't advanced by their standards irregardless of how far we have come in the last X number of years.

-we can only speculate about their methods of propulsion.
-particle physics to us is poorly understood, we don't know the nature of the smallest particles and what energy maintains them. The smallest particles are a mystery. CERN may shed some light and may just lead to more questions.
-we don't understand the heavier elements like 115, can't precisely predict the isotopes and can't produce them in any significant quantity.
-quantum physics to us is mostly theory, little is proven.
-we don't understand entirely the nature of light and its potentials.
-dittos for gravity.

Who knows where the state of our knowledge will be in another 100, 1000, or 10,000 years. We don't know or understand the obsticles that stand in the way of solving the above problems.

There is no reason to doubt that an ET being could be thousands or even millions of years ahead of us in advancement. The universe is thought by us to be about 13 billion years old. That figure is just a guess. The universe may be ageless. What we call the universe may be many, many universes.

Such is our elemental understanding. ETs could laugh at us but why should they? They probably made us and guided our development.

Yes, you are right, we know now that Mars had huge water bodies in the past, not just a stream and pool here and there, and that the conditions for life likely existed then, also that it's been struck by many meteorites and that the biggest crater in the solar system is thought to exist there, so we could speculate that life in the red planet had a cataclysmic end...also that hydrocarbons, the building blocks for life, have been found in Titan, which could sustain different from Earth lifeforms, and that its chemical compounds are very similar to those which are thought, existed in our primitive planet...also that organisms could inhabit near the hydrothermal vents beneath Europa's ice covered sea...so if life could be so widespread just within the solar system...and the Universe is indeed very old and "infinite" of course other civilizations could be far more advanced than us by a million years...it is also logical to say that progress within those civilizations wasn't entirely linear because many setbacks likely occurred during such long periods of time...but I do agree with Has2b, with his skepticism, about how the current state of such old civilizations would be today against what's being described...and again I say if they can traverse 100 light years in an hour and forty minutes as Cliff said in an interview...why would they do cattle mutilations or abductions?...it'll take just a few years before the first synthetic bacteria is assembled here on earth...and is it true about the aerosol can? Speaking with the truth, to me, what gives credibility to these claims is the relation with the 2001 Disclosure Project press conference, but I really don't know much about your background Mr. Stone...could you tell us how would we really know you worked in the military or about your credentials, or could someone else point these info. out for me?... as Dr. Steven Greer said in the conference..."these people have their credentials"...and also if this blog is about Disclosure I've seen no info. that could substantially back this up...I'm not trying to sound insulting...but I could also tell you this blog is about ghosts, fairies or the yeti. From my arguable perspective I believe someone in DIRECT contact with these ET beings, or Korona, "which with a "C" means "Crown" in spanish"...could give more proofs or share some "heavier information"...however that's just my point of view...and I could say there are many things I don't know and maybe many others I wouldn't believe...but at least I think much more things could be pointed out, from a reasonable argument, that could prove one little thing.
...and I know Mr. Stone you say that you don't care whether people believe your word or not...you just tell the facts as they happened...and as extraordinary claims require extraordinary proofs...I believe there could be something you could point out that could make "extraordinary sense"...I hope my position and perspective are understood.

Hey guys so far I've read through about 25-30 of the pages of this thread and I am astounded that no one has yet seemed to have asked the most important/natural question of all:

Mr. Stone: If these extra terrestrials are so advanced WHY DO THEIR SHIPS KEEP CRASHING???????????


I mean one or two is understandable throughout history but these suckers crash so much they had to form an entire crash recovery team with you on it? What is wrong with their technology are they actually LESS ADVANCED than us in certain fields???

If all those recoveries indeed happened I would say, the crafts were somehow shot down, Sgt. Clifford Stone says they have accidents just as there are airplane accidents...I've also read in other sources...for instance Dr. Steven Greer says many crafts have been shot down and I think there is a CSETI video which depicts this...It would be my guess that these crafts were indeed downed and then a recovery team could be misinformed by a "supposed accident"...but that's just my belief...
HOWEVER before continuing I think the previous 4 POSTS should be brought into focus.



[edit on 6-8-2008 by jjpaxton]

reply to post by jjpaxton


I think a lot of UFO researchers, myself and Clifford don't want to make this whole situation a religion. I look at this whole issue as an engineer and scientist, I try to fit facts into the equation, but some concepts are out of the box in terms of thinking for an answer. I put God into the equation so it focuses me to think different because there are no limits on how we should think. Religion is following man, but spirituality is following God.

What motivate me in this whole UFO situation and others like myself is to think of the possibilities of traveling someday to other solar systems, using technologies that we grow into because of our open minds. If we limit ourselves to what we think we can do, we would never have gone to the Moon.

I try to fit what I know about our visitors in facts that I know are possible in the field that I’m in which is aerospace, etc. Then I try to get the facts thru FOIA and other source, I try not to come up with any solution or convince myself right away, I look at all the solutions. There is so much out there, but you have to know how to filter it. Sometimes it’s good to meditate before you look for answers.

God bless,
Joe Z.

reply to post by Fulcrum29


I don't hink they always crash, I'm in the aerospace field and I know by looking at these stiuation below ( I don't know how to quote myself) these are not crashes, but landings etc. I saw a lot of the FOIA documents supporting these claims, but how do we get these docs out there and others to see.

see page below:

Folks,

I just finished talking to Cliff, he said he's under the weather. He should be back soon. He gave me the list of the 12 events; I will just put them down as bullet items for now and expand later. There are docs that supports these events.

1. NBC School – Training film on ID’s of UFO’s

2. Pentagon – Underground location

3. Indian Town Gap, PA Army Base

4. Helped one escape – Ft. Lee

5. Vietnam – B-52 aircraft

6. Vietnam – inside the cave

7. Vietnam

8. Vietnam – Multi-colors

9. Germany

10. Belgium / Soviet Union: Energy source of craft: size of muffler

11. Soviet Union – Tractor Type Beam on Jet Fighter

12. Belgium A.F. & Soviet

I hope this gets our thought processing working so we can start doing our own research on these incidents. Pray for Cliff’s health. Everyone have a great and enlightening day.

God Bless,
Joe Z.

Originally posted by Joe Z
reply to post by Fulcrum29

 

I don't hink they always crash, I'm in the aerospace field and I know by looking at these stiuation below ( I don't know how to quote myself) these are not crashes, but landings etc. I saw a lot of the FOIA documents supporting these claims, but how do we get these docs out there and others to see.

see page below:

Folks,

I just finished talking to Cliff, he said he's under the weather. He should be back soon. He gave me the list of the 12 events; I will just put them down as bullet items for now and expand later. There are docs that supports these events.

1. NBC School – Training film on ID’s of UFO’s

2. Pentagon – Underground location

3. Indian Town Gap, PA Army Base

4. Helped one escape – Ft. Lee

5. Vietnam – B-52 aircraft

6. Vietnam – inside the cave

7. Vietnam

8. Vietnam – Multi-colors

9. Germany

10. Belgium / Soviet Union: Energy source of craft: size of muffler

11. Soviet Union – Tractor Type Beam on Jet Fighter

12. Belgium A.F. & Soviet

I hope this gets our thought processing working so we can start doing our own research on these incidents. Pray for Cliff’s health. Everyone have a great and enlightening day.

God Bless,
Joe Z.

awesome that appears to be the first indepth factual description of some of Clifford's tribulations, can you perchance expand upon each of these encounters or the ones that you have more knowledge of because honestly I don't know how to read them I really am not sure what you're referring to other than the locations. For example Vietnam b52 aircraft, what does that mean exactly? Can you describe each salvage operation a little more in depth or as I said at least the ones that you have knowledge of?

Originally posted by Joe Z
I think a lot of UFO researchers, myself and Clifford don't want to make this whole situation a religion. I look at this whole issue as an engineer and scientist, I try to fit facts into the equation, but some concepts are out of the box in terms of thinking for an answer. I put God into the equation so it focuses me to think different because there are no limits on how we should think. Religion is following man, but spirituality is following God.

Hi Joe Z, absolute no offence, but because of your remarks here I wonder the following.

Don’t you or Clifford ever thought or heard from others about the real possibility that that phenomenon could be the reason and origin for starting the Christian religion some 2000 years ago.
That the interpretations people made back then from the encounters they had with the Ufo phenomenon or better the Extraterrestrial presence and what they understandable experienced as being so clearly Godlike where responsible for starting that religion?

Thanks and all the best for you and Clifford.

[edit on 7/8/08 by spacevisitor]

reply to post by Fulcrum29


Folks,

Good morning Fulcrum29, spacevisitor and folks,

I’m off to work right now, I’m sorry about yesterday post of just showing the 12 situations that Clifford went thru with me. The B-52 was when he saw a fully intact B-52 on the jungle floor after it was shoot down by the enemy, not the visitors. Which is impossible, because the B-52 would have to be in pieces, it can’t just drop with out breaking up and destroying trees, etc. I know this because I’m in the CAP and we recover crash aircraft, etc.

The one on the cave in Vietnam is in detail in the previous pages. I’m working right now with a member I meet on this thread to take 6 hours of Clifford footage and transcribe it for others to read. I’m doing that with spuntk. All I want is to get the information out. I’m involved with some scientist, etc working to get this information out. I have to go to work now, but will try to contact you this weekend.

God bless,
Joe Z.

Originally posted by Joe Z
I’m working right now with a member I meet on this thread to take 6 hours of Clifford footage and transcribe it for others to read. I’m doing that with spuntk. All I want is to get the information out. I’m involved with some scientist, etc working to get this information out. I have to go to work now, but will try to contact you this weekend.
Joe Z.

Absolute great work guys, but take your time for it and thanks for doing this.

Hi Joe Z, absolute no offence, but because of your remarks here I wonder the following.
Don’t you or Clifford ever thought or heard from others about the real possibility that that phenomenon could be the reason and origin for starting the Christian religion some 2000 years ago.

reply to post by spacevisitor
My dear friend, forgive me if I make any mistakes in this response, however I am in great pain at this moment but feel I must respond to this. With the death of my, I questioned God. I did not stop believing. As a result, I was very carefully told things as to our visitors insight as to the existence of God. As I have said many times, I learned that they too, believe in that which we call God. They truly have grown spiritually. We on the other hand, live in a world that has become less spiritual. They would tell you that they are just as moral as you or me; that they are not God or gods. They did not create religion. THE WORSE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IS THAT A SCIENTIFIC ENDEAVOR INTO THE UFO PHENOMENON TURN INTO A RELIGION. Our visitor are just like as us; however many years ahead of us in intellect, knowledge, and scientific advances.

God Bless,

Cliff

reply to post by CLIFFORD STONE


Mr. Stone, so good to see you back! I hope your family is well, sorry to hear you are in pain.

Sir, you honor us with your presence. Seems many of us have a lot to learn, when it comes to the Spiritual side of things. I know I need to learn. I, as many, have rejected traditional 'religion' and thusly, lost any spirit. Not sure what that means, but it'a all I have to understand, at this point.

Originally posted by Fulcrum29
Hey guys so far I've read through about 25-30 of the pages of this thread and I am astounded that no one has yet seemed to have asked the most important/natural question of all:

Mr. Stone: If these extra terrestrials are so advanced WHY DO THEIR SHIPS KEEP CRASHING???????????

I mean one or two is understandable throughout history but these suckers crash so much they had to form an entire crash recovery team with you on it? What is wrong with their technology are they actually LESS ADVANCED than us in certain fields???

Considering that on average UFO's crash every 10 years or so, they have a better track record than your average Boeing 747

Originally posted by CLIFFORD STONE

Hi Joe Z, absolute no offence, but because of your remarks here I wonder the following.
Don’t you or Clifford ever thought or heard from others about the real possibility that that phenomenon could be the reason and origin for starting the Christian religion some 2000 years ago.

reply to post by spacevisitor

 

My dear friend, forgive me if I make any mistakes in this response, however I am in great pain at this moment but feel I must respond to this. With the death of my, I questioned God. I did not stop believing. As a result, I was very carefully told things as to our visitors insight as to the existence of God. As I have said many times, I learned that they too, believe in that which we call God. They truly have grown spiritually. We on the other hand, live in a world that has become less spiritual. They would tell you that they are just as moral as you or me; that they are not God or gods. They did not create religion. THE WORSE THING THAT COULD HAPPEN IS THAT A SCIENTIFIC ENDEAVOR INTO THE UFO PHENOMENON TURN INTO A RELIGION. Our visitor are just like as us; however many years ahead of us in intellect, knowledge, and scientific advances.

God Bless,

Cliff

Mr. Stone, have you entertained the idea that aliens might be Demons as described in the Bible, and have come to earth to deceive mankind????

Mr. Stone, have you entertained the idea that aliens might be Demons as described in the Bible, and have come to earth to deceive mankind????

reply to post by TallWhites

My dear friend, yes I have considered the idea that they might be demons. The Bible tells us to test the spirits. This I have done. Also, demons curse the name of God and denounce him. The visitors I have had contact with have done neither; nor have they tried to stop me from worshiping or giving God praise.

God Bless,

Cliff

, as many, have rejected traditional 'religion' and thusly, lost any spirit. Not sure what that means, but it'a all I have to understand, at this point.

reply to post by weedwhacker

My dear friend, The God I know is a loving, caring God. He knows all of our short-comings and forgives them. He understands that with so many “religions” claiming to be the only way to heaven and the only true “religion” and all of them being based on one book, The Bible, we may find ourselves feeling loss of spirit. Therefore, the God I know looks deeper into our hearts and souls, knowing us far more then we know ourselves. Remember the golden rule written two thousand years ago, “Love one another as I love you.” This is truly the seed of spirituality. I believe you are closer then you know.

God Bless,

Cliff

"......but I really don't know much about your background Mr. Stone...could you tell us how would we really know you worked in the military or about your credentials, or could someone else point these info. out for me?... as Dr. Steven Greer said in the conference..."these people have their credentials......"