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posted on May, 30 2008 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Astyanax
First of all, are you a man or a woman? Succubi go for men, incubi for women.
[edit on 30-5-2008 by Astyanax]


I'm a man.


Originally posted by Blitzkreigen
Hello,

I'm going to suggest "another direction" to proceed...

I think the only way I actually survived was through past Martial Arts Training.. ( Dont laugh I'm not going to kick a Demons Ass ).

The Martial Arts taught me how to use my MIND, and to see things that are happening, or that will happen, a few ( 30 ) seconds before they actually do... I have learned to "Speed Things Up" in my mind to see my choices and paths , before they happen... then I can stop them before they do, or simply "cross the street"...

Anyway..This is what I suggest.....

Go to an electronics store and buy yourself a $ 50.00 Color Night Vision Security Camera with AUDIO. It will have a 60 foot cord with it. Hook this up in your bedroom, connected to a VCR with a standard tape in the VCR. Set to EP ( Extended Play )

This will give you 6 hours of recording on a standard tape.

When you go to sleep, hit the record button. If anything comes into your room in that 6 hours, you will be 'Possibly' be able to see whats happening on the replay.

This will either scare the livins sh$T out of you, and make you quit work and find a Priest Immediately in a panic, or you may see yourself reacting to what you 'cant see' on film.

Either way, you will be able to take to "FOG of Sleep" out of the equation, and get an idea of whats happening and at what times...

It will either make this experince a Priority in your life IMMEDIATELY, above all else, or you may find that you simple have sleep paralysis, as other have stated.

I personally BELIEVE you, that this is REAL, and not Sleep Paralysis.

Best Regards,

Blitzkrei


When this was occurring a few years back, I really wanted to record the experience, to get an idea of what the hell was going on. I think I might give that a shot, now that I've got a video camera. Good Idea. I would be interested in hearing more about your martial arts training...about being able to see into the immediate future. I've done that on accident, well when I really needed it, but I'd like to know how to do that on command. TY Blitzkrei


Originally posted by Blueangel7
I think that you opened some doors when you played with the Ouija Board, and allowed some demonic spirits in... I think you should probably have a Deliverance Session. I have had two Deliverances. You might want to check with an Assembly Of God Church or a Full Gospel Church. The people who gave me a Deliverance were from Assembly Of God. They are really good at Spiritual Warfare, and at Discerning Of Spirits. The best, in my opinion. Just tell them the problems you are having, and they will know what to do.

All my life, I have had recurring dreams of an old lady walking into my bedroom, and I don't know who she is, or why she is there. I didn't think much about it. I saw an episode of X-Files, and there was a man who was seeing an old lady, everywhere he went. That's when I learned that it was Incubus/Succubus type of thing. My dreams were not sexual, but it helped me to understand the dreams about the old lady. I hope it works out for you. Be happy that there are others that you can talk to. When this started happening to me, very few people knew about Spiritual Warfare, and what to do about it. It wasn't an "open" topic, like it is today. I can totally relate, and I am praying for you!


TY. Can someone perform a deliverance by themselves? without a church? TY Blueangel7



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 03:08 PM
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Just to try and help you a little bit.
If you are suffering from sleep paralysis (I know I do)?
Try these ways to help you combat it a little.

First and foremost, never sleep on your back.
If you feel the need to sleep on your back, Turn you head to the left or the right or sleep on your side. Always try and sleep on your stomach!
If you feel yourself slipping into a state of paralysis, try breathing heavily (sometimes you can’t breath at all right)? And talk or moan. That should help you wake up.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by mc1km
Perhaps you should look toward a medical diagnosis rather than jumping to the conclusion that it's some sort of paranormal entity.

It sounds very much like sleep paralysis as has already been mentioned, whereby your brain secretes a hormone to paralyse your body and stop you jumping out the window during sleep.


Sometimes when you wake up the hormone takes a while to clear and so you have the classic sleep paralysis whereby you are concious but cannot move so your brain immediately jump to the conclusion that you're being assaulted by some invisibal entity.

Maybe you have some rare medical condition which is causing this hormone to become active during the day, or perhaps it's some form of epilepsy.

I would advice you speak to a doctor rather than coming to ATS for answers, or visiting a priest who will tell you it's a demon to recruit you onboard the religion bandwagon.


Well, I'm not going to jump on a bandwagon... and sleep paralysis usually occurs when you are coming out of a deep sleep, not when you're going to sleep, or walking down the street. But more importantly: I feel the presence of the thing in the room before i become paralyzed. Let me make this clear: there is something there. You know the definition of sleep paralysis, and that's great, but until you've had a similar experience, I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. I came to ATS for answers because I wanted a different perspective than what mainstream science has to offer. There are better sources of healing, than medications that suppress the problem. I don't want to be sedated for the rest of my life, just because science has ignored spirituality in their equation. But, TY mc1km.

Thank you for all of your suggestions. I'm feeling better already.

Much Love



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 04:11 PM
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You need to find either a catholic priest or better yet a santero... In mia and ny there plently of them just gotta find one that is trustworthy... What you have is very real.. Get rid of the board.. asap light up candles everywhere in your house(white candles) You probably never spoke to your father... Most likely it was a demon\evil spirit that knew him from your memories.. all Spirits can easily get information from you.. Do this asap... You have a very serious case.. ignore the naysayers here.. I totally support you.. and Believe you. Get white candles and light them up everywhere in your house and keep them around your bed, for now.. this will help.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 04:30 PM
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you said it yourself, your problems started with the ouija board.

with that device you enabled the spirits into your life.

if you care to read a bit, you might enjoy reading "the book of enoch"

the book of enoch will get into the fallen angels [ spirits ] and explain them a bit.

www.heaven.net.nz...





and I wouldn't get involved with the catholic church. you may be ok with a knowledgeable catholic, but stay away from that church itself. [ sorry, I don't have time to elaborate. it is very involved ]

You're right about religion being used as a political football, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

I wouldn't trust just any old church around, many of them are NEW AGE [ apostacy ] churches and will be of no use to you.

You may want to seek out the UCG United Church of God or a local Calvary Chapel to help you with the problems with the spirits. Not all pastors are created equal, so prepare your questions for them, then based on their response you can choose who to talk with further on the subject.


the first order of business is to burn the ouija board!!!


Best wishes..

[edit on 30-5-2008 by toasted]

[edit on 30-5-2008 by toasted]



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 04:32 PM
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"First of all, are you a man or a woman? Succubi go for men, incubi for women. "

From my research, it doesn't matter which gender you are. We each have a bioenergetic body, and some of these target a primary point of energy (our sexual energy is a focal point for this very reason, and that when reproducing we contribute a measure of this energy to our offspring). There are a number of well known physicists working on this (two of them I can think of off hand is retired material science/physics professor from Stanford, Dr. William Tiller, and Nobel Prize winning physicist Dr. Brian Josephson, though I believe the latter is more interested in consciousness research). I believe you can find references to some of these in Robert Monroe's books (The Monroe Institute), but the foremost expert that I've found for practical measures is Robert Bruce, and the exact measures he's outlined for dealing with this are here: www.astraldynamics.com...
It can't hurt to learn as much about this anyway, even if what you find is not directly applicable to your situation. In my friends case, he was actively working on two books and a film--very intelligent, logical man, but unwise (in my observation) for playing around with sigils and sex magick prior to learning the risks and countermeasures. He actually enjoyed the attack, and desired more. From my years of experience with him, he never had a tendency to make up stories. He stopped working on everything, zero productivity from a previously highly creative and motivated person. I have observed and taken photographs of things that simply don't make sense, and I consider myself an open-minded skeptic (which is why until there is a way to prove theirs existence, I can't or won't consider photographs, etc 'proof', though I believe there is more going on than I can explain). Experience always trumps belief, and if you have experienced this then it is no longer in the realm of a belief for you. From my research, using words and names against these entities usually makes them appear to back off for a short time and then return with a vengeance. It may be part of a game they're playing, it may simply anger or amuse them--mere speculation at best.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by jlawson56
Well, I'm not going to jump on a bandwagon... and sleep paralysis usually occurs when you are coming out of a deep sleep, not when you're going to sleep, or walking down the street.

But more importantly: I feel the presence of the thing in the room before i become paralyzed. Let me make this clear: there is something there. You know the definition of sleep paralysis, and that's great, but until you've had a similar experience, I'm afraid you don't know what you're talking about. I came to ATS for answers because I wanted a different perspective than what mainstream science has to offer. There are better sources of healing, than medications that suppress the problem. I don't want to be sedated for the rest of my life, just because science has ignored spirituality in their equation. But, TY mc1km.

Thank you for all of your suggestions. I'm feeling better already.

Much Love


All that I'm saying is perhaps you should rule out health related reasons first, judging by your responses you seem to be dismissing any suggestion that it could be health related in favour of demons and paranormal entities.

There was a story on here a while back about a man who kept having daily encounters/conversations with what he believed were angels, it turned out he was diagnosed with a brain tumour and died shortly after.

It's best to be safe than sorry don't you think?



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 04:59 PM
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I have to agree with this, (whatever alien abduction is). I'm also of the belief that certain people on this planet have the technology to carry out stuff like this, using the public as guinea pigs, (in that old "boys with their toys" scenario). It sounds like you're being targeted, and that a certain form of mind control is being used on you. I know from the experiences of "alien abduction" victims I have met that you can stop this by taking full control of your mind, by either taking up regular meditation or just an absolute NO NO NO, attitude, with no fear, when it happens again.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 05:35 PM
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So, when entities possess people, and fling stuff at them, and make them nautious, and attck them in their sleep, and purposefully startle them, that's all just innocent fun? Are you people REALLY going to tell someone straight to their face who gets raped by the entity, that they're just imagining it? Really? well, no. The effect is that of SP, and this is a common attack by shadows. They are an empty, evil entity, and they can be fought off.
Don't get me wrong. Skepticism is a very good thing. But even when by an entity, rape victims can't be automatically told that they're imagining it.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 05:50 PM
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I would say that regardless of what is actually happening, you should start keeping a log or diary. I would write down things that you do throughout the day, and see if there is a correlation between an activity and these attacks. I would also say to talk to a psychologist, don't go to a psychiatrist right away they might just give you medicine. I'm not saying that this isn't a spiritual attack, just that it is obviously traumatizing, and in my opinion, rape is rape and requires some form of therapy, or atleast an attempt at therapy.

The worst case scenario with seeing a pscyhologist, is they end up not helping you. The best case is they might shed some light on the situation, or atleast help you deal with the trauma of the situation. I would also say try to open yourself up to positive energy. Hang out with friends and family, do things that you like to do, and try to put yourself in a positive frame of mind. Don't run toward any conclusion, as it will just pidgeon-hole your efforst. If you haven't talked to any friends or family about this, I would. Try to find someone who will be open-minded, perhaps they have noticed things around you that missed your attention. Hope I helped somewhat, good luck. I hope everything works out for you in the end, and you get rid of whatever this thing is.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 06:26 PM
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But you know, seeing a psychologist isn't going to do much, either, if it continues. The entity has to be fought off. or in the very least shown who's boss.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 06:47 PM
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Totally agree. I just would rather side on trying to find a subconscious/cognitive reason, before going for spiritual. This is only because of those who go through exorcisms, when really they have a cognitive disorder. This obviously isn't in that area, but it also couldn't hurt to see a psychologist. Then based on how that goes, look into alternative therapies. A traumatic experience is traumatic be it normal or supernatural. Just my opinion. Peace.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 07:04 PM
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Just want to start off by saying Hello to everyone.

I am an ordained minister and I have used some methods that have proven themselves worthy of use and I encourage any one to practice or test it out.

The use of a Ouija board acts as a portal or bridge that allows certain energies to have the capability to manifest our realm. Most people who use tools like this usually are unaware of this or sometimes forget that it reacts in this type of fashion. Usually one has to close the door after opening it, so to say. I do not condemn nor condone in it use of a Ouija board but I personally do not use one or every have used one in my existence.

When there is an entity or energy around your living space or in some cases, your aura, there are some practices that work.

Here are a list of things to do, and while doing this I strongly recommend you think of welcoming holy happy thoughts and that the positive energy is coming in, not destroying or banishing the negative entity, but simply replacing the negative energy’s void or space that it once occupied.

1) burn sage in all areas of your house/home. Before burning the sage make sure all windows and doors are open so the energy has a chance to move out and the natural energies of nature and light are welcomed in your home.
2) Write down on a piece of paper the prayer or action you would like to have happened. E.g. Remove all negative energies and allow positive energies to reside here. Then place a cup of water on top of the paper you just wrote on for 30 seconds. This is creating your own blessing water or holy water. When done start sprinkling the water as you would with catholic holy water through out the surface areas that you want it applied to.
3) Here is a big step that preps for a cleansing by holy fire:
• Ingredients need: Sea salt, distilled white vinegar, tea tree leaf oil, 70% rubbing alcohol, a spray bottle, some Styrofoam cups, a lighter, a small stick, a pan with a lid, tin foil, and Epsom salt.
• First step is taking the Styrofoam cups and filling them half way with the distilled white vinegar and placing the cups in all four corners of each room and location of your home/living quarters and one in the center. Once the cups are in place, take a pinch of sea salt and sprinkle it into the cups of vinegar. While sprinkling the sea salt say a prayer three times. E.g. please move this negative energy away and welcome in the positive energy. Let the cups stand for three days or so. It will stink but it is for a good cause. Once the three days are done, simply dispose of the liquid mixture by flushing it down the sink. This stinky liquid mixture is suppose to attracted the negative energies to the cups.
• Next get the spray bottle and fill it half way up with the 70% rubbing alcohol or fill it up to be enough liquid to spray your whole living area. Next add about 5-7 drops of the tea tree leaf oil or add enough drops until it has that nice semi minty smell to it as you spray. Once you have the mixture go around your home spraying a mist as you go along. You may do this as much as you like. Once you are done with the spraying let it stand for a day.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 07:05 PM
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• After the spray step, now we move to the most difficult of the cleansing and for the pyro’s, the fun part. This part you will have to do with complete caution. Take the pan and cover the inside of the pan with some sheets of tin foil. Fill some of the Epsom salt in the foil that is in the pan. Pour the rubbing alcohol over the Epsom salt. Pour enough rubbing alcohol until the Epsom salt is soaked. Once it is soaked take the lighter and light a stick so that way you can ignite the alcohol with out burning your hand. The flam will burn very quick and big so make sure to take notice of the ceiling and any wind currents that blow through your house. Make sure you have the lid ready so you can cover the flame at any time to suffocate it to put it out if it gets out of hand. With the flame burning, walk around the house and cleanse every part of the house with the holy flame. As you walk around continue to think about that holy light/positive energy replacing the evil negative energies. You may try and play with the angle of which you hold the pan so that way the flame’s heat will not ride up your arm and singe your arm hairs.
4) After cleansing your house you can also put up barriers around your house by using sea salt and sprinkling barriers around the out side of your house so that it wards away the negative energies that were casted out of the living area. Some people also use the holy water in bottles and place them out side the property of the home and use that as a barrier. Remember to have that thought pattern/prayer of having the positive energies coming and to replace the negative energies.
5) Next is the working of your chakras and this should be done by other spiritual healers that are not influenced by the negative energy but there are methods of doing it yourself.
• You can use some meditation and practice as you breath that a holy light is coming into your crown chakra and filling your whole body and the negative energy filtering out into the earth. As the light fills you, you can also imagine the chakra points being cleansed as well. Each chakra point has its own colour. From bottom (root) to top (crown) the colour schemes are r.o.y.g.b.i.v. (red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, violet). Picture the light taking the dark pigments of these colors and turning it into a brighter version of the color. E.g. a brick red root chakra colour will be cleansed by the holy light and will turn it into a ruby red color. Some people also you quartz crystals while doing this. Usually the quartz will be held in the left hand when calling on its aid in cleansing while you meditate and held in the right when you are cleaning the quartz. When cleaning the quartz, just picture that holy light again filling the quartz crystal. After doing this you become connected with the positive energy and remember that this energy is manifested in your body forever and nothing will ever taint it or effect it. When this light is in you picture it forming a bubble or filter around you and only allowing love and light in and it also sends that energy to the negative energy and it can’t stand the energy and moves on. We are really powerful creatures and that is why a lot of energies will try and cling to us.
• There is another work out that you can do that links your chakras together because when our bio fields are affected by negative energies, chakra flows are changed or are not flowing together. This work out requires you to stand up. Bring the left knee up and connect it with your right elbow. Once the two bones connect you can rest them. Then do the opposite side and lift up your right knee and connect it to your left elbow. This will look like you are running in place or doing some type of martial art. What this is doing is getting your chakras to start spinning again in unison.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 07:05 PM
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• You may want to also consult a spiritual healer for personal guidance.

Good luck, I hope I helped, I love you all, and you WILL over come this.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 07:24 PM
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You need to pick up a copy of the book "Hostage to the Devil" by Malachi Martin, which will give you an in-depth look at case studies involving demonic possession. Also, pick up Ralph Sarchie's book, "Beware the Night". This will give you an intelligent back drop to your experience.

Before you do so, you need to meet with a Catholic priest as soon as possible.

Despite the criticism in this forum of the Catholic Church, an exorcist from the Catholic Church would be able to provide you with the best advice and guidance. What you are describing in this forum can best be handled by a qualified Catholic priest.

Don't fall for any New Age traps or other hocus pocus - You need a qualified Catholic priest.

The three (3) dots on your hands are signs of the devil - Satan and his minions love to mock the Trinity of God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost. Hence, many occult activities and rituals and other devil-related activities occur at 3:00 in the morning. You are dealing with the Devil, or one of his minions, my friend.

First, you need to meet with a qualified medical doctor that can verify that your experience is not related to a medical condition. This would also be the general advice offered by a Catholic priest as well.

I would meet with a Catholic priest pronto. Buy some Saint Benedict medals to put in your house and on your person, wear a Scapular of Our Lady of Mount Carmel, and sprinkle Holy Water from your local Catholic Church in your house. Attend Mass daily, especially a Tridentine or Latin Mass. The Devil hates Latin because he has been defeated so many times with the Latin prayers. Clean out your house of anything demonic or occult related.

I hope that the members on this forum will keep you in their prayers. I will pray for you as well. Good luck and God Bless.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 10:06 PM
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OP. I suggest you pray. And when in situations like you described, pray. Learn the Lords Prayer. It's always been very helpful to me. Maybe it's all a subconscious thing, but it works for me. And another tool I have found useful is to use a smudge to cleanse your house and other places where you and friends gather. A smudge is a bundle of dried white sage and cedar. You light it on fire and it smolders. Walk around your house or wherever and let the smoke gently waft everywhere. Some people use a quick sweeping motion with the smudge. I prefer a slow movement. And I pray. Say something to whatever good god you may believe in asking that you be protected and to make the place clean. Native Americans used to use these smudges. Perhaps some still do. The are said to cleanse an area of bad energy and invite good energy. I buy my smudges at type of new age like store in the city about 40 miles from me. Whenever a negative person visits us we feel a residual effect from their presence. We use the smudge to cleanse our house and we feel much better. Maybe this is just psychological. But then again maybe the Native Americans knew something we don't generally know. Good luck with your problems. If you can, maybe you can get a priest to bless you and your environs.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 10:50 PM
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Hi,

I've read most of the postings and I'm glad to see a variety of presentations for help. I once was demonised; I needed someone to close the door I opened.

When I opened that 'portal' of power, I was only looking for something to give me strength to get through this difficult life. What came to me was a malevolent entity that was particularly hateful towards people who aligned themselves to Jesus Christ. Like you, it took me about five years to recognise how this "spirit of anger" had laid to waste my life.

When I was released from this daemon, it was after a Christian gave/discerned for me a 'word of knowledge' pertaining to the legal hold this thing had over me. For me I needed to reject [the benefits of] evil [to gain power, riches, friends, comfort, peace, and so on]. After this confession and a prayer with a Christian that carried the authority of Jesus Christ, the 'portal' [my unconscious pact with evil] was closed up and the "spirit of anger" banished forever.

Please solicit prayer support from real Christians - it helped me during this time.



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 11:13 PM
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Here is one of many lists of patents for mind control technology:
rense.com...
I'm certain it has gone far beyond ANY patents listed. Dr.(s) Delgado, Cameron, Lilly, etc. have done a great deal of the introductory work, and this has been a goal of the intelligence agencies for years. Would they test it on the public? Of course, there are numerous examples of tests done on military/prisoners/patients in mental hospitals, military dependents, etc. There is such a vast myriad of possibilities here that it's virtually impossible to narrow it down. I despise this sort of action, and there have been lawsuits against the NSA and the CIA (Cameron's 'research' in Canada), plus stories of Dr. Mengele being brought over with the project paperclip scientists. Since they can hide behind 'national security' for virtually anything they are in a very real sense 'above the law'. Ultimately, I don't think they get away with it, that there must be a balancing. I envision that (going under the speculation that consciousness continues post physical death) they experience the effect on their victims, not as a means of punishment but as a learning experience. These are experiential lessons I would not desire, but I'm just speculating here. I have nothing against technology whatsoever, just the application of it in negative use. I can't help but notice that societies in which technology is used extensively have lost to a large extent the interpersonal relations with others (OT, so Ill stop here).



posted on May, 30 2008 @ 11:26 PM
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" All that I'm saying is perhaps you should rule out health related reasons first, "

you have WAYyyyyyyyyyyy more faith in doctors, than they deserve.

If ther gun confiscators of the world were REALLY interested in saving lives, they ban doctors and save more lives than by confiscating weapons...

I've had enough experience to know what these guys don't know and how dangerous it is to put 100% trust in them, some day you'll see what I'm saying.


In the meantime, I do trust a guy like this;

www.healthranger.org...

And I trust doing my own research on something,IN CONJUNCTION with seeing a doctor as a last resort...because they are not about CURING people. they are about treating symptoms with expensive drugs that have harmful side effects.




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