The ATS Issues Thread

Thats fair enough,
Everyone knows the rules and tries to obey,

But its a bit unfair just to blanket everything under those rules.

My post WAS NOT political BAIT, it was not off topic, and it was attracting replies creating discussion.

An automated response is not a reply, when I email 3 mods asking them to please point out where exactly I crossed the line, showing examples and giving reasons.. Id expect someone to take the time to point it out.

There'd be no argument, i dont want to be removed from a thread for some personal reason or because someone misreads what I typed.

Thankyou for intrepid and springer replying, but im sorry guys, im still left here with no one showing me how my post was offtopic, and explaining why no one took 20seconds to explain it, being i took the minutes to ask them.


As it stands

your post can be removed for any reason.
no why will be given, just a simple automated email saying it was political and off topic.
too bad if it wasnt, because all your u2u's go unanswered.

No trying to educate the people on how they crossed the line,
No compromise, if they dont like it, or you, they dont need to give a reason.



[edit on 27-10-2008 by Agit8dChop]

reply to post by Agit8dChop

It's simple. We had to create the new rules for the good of the site.

The volunteer staff doesn't have time to tutor members one on one, we wish we did but we don't.

The rules are enforced by HUMANS, we do better than most but we aren't perfect, we DO however offer an "all staff review appeal process" through the complaint feature or by u2uing the mod. Your case was reviewed and the staff felt the decision was within the spirit of the new guidelines.

That's all there is to it.

Follow the guidelines and 9.9 times out of ten your fine.
Your last couple sentences ("posts removed for any reason", etc...) are just bunk and I think you know it.

The words "move on" come to mind.


Springer...

Edit to add: Maybe you're having trouble because it's the fact "topic" isn't the only reason... Read this link again...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It's not so much to do with being on or off topic...

[edit on 10-27-2008 by Springer]

admin edit READ my edit above



Thats exactly my point springer...

I felt the post was on topic.
I provided examples and quotes, showing it was on topic.

I requested a review, I was told I would be contacted, no one contacted me.

Now your telling me it was reviewed, 'move on'?

So it actually justifies my last few sentances.

The mods involved dont need to reply to me, if they dont like me, or my post they can remove it and simply say it was against T and C, and not dont have to explain why!

Why is it all 3 mods said they replied to my U2U.
Yet I never got one?

If this site is making money of the content of its users, surely they should reply back to a U2U when their content is removed, and the user confused!

bah humbug.

whats the point... its clear no ones going to bother giving a proper reason!





[edit on 10-27-2008 by Springer]

well I was told it was off topic, and removed for that reason.
So why then was it removed if that wasnt the reason?

this is exactly what im on about.
No one's telling me why it was offtopic,
no ones telling me why it was decided after investigation to remain deleted, when it clearly was on topic and justified.

to note, dbates just u2u'd me asking if it was resolved.

so, who exactly investigated it?

reply to post by Agit8dChop


Your post was this:

I believe this article is represented well with the below cartoon,
both represent today’s current media, as how it is throwing wild labels on OBAMA simply to scare the meek and feeble into wanting 'anyone' but!

The title of the thread is this:

Iran 'would prefer' Barack Obama presidency

Your post has nothing to do with Iran and is actually in violation of the Political Trolling Advisory. However, instead of giving you a PTroll, I chose instead to simply "Off Topic" it and thereby not remove any points from you.

You were only warned after posting several complaints "In Thread"

Semper

ATS Member and Moderator

Let me add as well that I truly thought I sent a U2U to you explaining why your post was removed.

I am human and I make mistakes. After I came on tonight and saw all the drama over one post, I reviewed my "Outbox" and realized my mistake and so I posted here for you to see.

Again, it is my hope that we can move past this issue.

Semper

My last comments about your "issue" agit8edchop...

While I now understand your confusion, hopefully you can understand ours, we thought you had been answered...

A classic communication hick up that happens when dealing with Human Beings.

Springer...

Edit: after seeing Semper's post above I removed my redundant explanation...

[edit on 10-27-2008 by Springer]

Eh hem, I had a thread removed by kinglizzard just now unfairly. I thought that my position here was a more respected one than to assume I would intice members to make an illegal act of copy write infringements on my or anyone elses behalf.

I had or have a personal dvd and do not know how to bring a portion of it over to the forum. You can just forget that, I will not be bringing anything of my personal library to ats.

reply to post by antar

I have no idea what thread/post you are talking about but I do have a question...

Are you saying you produced and own the copyright to your "personal library of DVDs"?

Springer...

I had to laugh, you really are sucessful Springer... No it is just my home videos. Private. Never mind its all explained and cleared up, misunderstanding on all sides, I did not ask correctly and lead some to suspect my intent was to bring a copy write video over.

I think you guys know me better than that.

I wouldnt really call it an 'issue' per se, rather a minor annoyance is how when in the customization center/ATS store area where you can buy/pick a background color, why isn't there an actual full size preview of your avatar? It's only this slim bar that shows what color you picked, as opposed to actually providing a preview of the actual avatar with the color you picked on it. This way if the preview doesn't look good, the color isn't how you thought it would be etc, you can re-pick a new color until you get it just right, then you can actually complete the purchase.

I always feel like I'm purchasing colors without actually being able to try them on first to see how it looks my avatars 'body'.

The ability to preview your avatar with the new color on it before making the final purchase, would be ideal in my opinion.

eh, 2c

Would it be improper of me to inquire why the thread entitled " Dual Citizenship *An American Mistake*" was removed?

I am uncertain as to the disposition of the topic and content.

reply to post by Maxmars


It was removed because the OP was plagiarism.

Ok, how do i complain about a mod?

[edit on 29-10-2008 by silver6ix]

reply to post by silver6ix


Use the complaint feature in your Member Center.

left hand side about 3/4 way down.

I asked a question on a PTS show thread on PTS show thread #35 about what Homer Feif meant by what he said in his last post about interviews, and, I would like a response.

I'm still confused about what he said in the thread here

PTS Mix shoe 35

reply to post by Frankidealist35


I did not respond as I have no idea how I could make that sentence any more clear.

Let you talk about the candidates, the election and your thoughts on both!!!!

I thought you were joking when you said you did not "Get it"

I still have no idea how to say it any more clear than it already is..

reply to post by Homer Fife


I didn't understand the post in context with the topic.

I didn't know what part of the post you wanted me to reply to, the part about the corruption and politicians part, or the part with the how would you like to be interviewed question.

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Frankidealist35]

I think what Homer meant was that he would like to interview you about your thoughts on the election and the politicians, that's all.

That he was offering you an opportunity which would "Let you" share your thoughts with their audience.

So, you would be on a podcast with him, and he would ask you questions about what you think about Obama, and McCain, and socialism, and the economy, and you would get to reply, and he would argue – just like what was going on in the thread, but in an AbovePolitics podcast.

I hope that helped clarify; Homer if that's not what you meant please feel free to humiliate me publicly or something.

reply to post by americandingbat

Okay, I'm still confused, and, I would like confirmation that this is what Homer meant.

[edit on 30-10-2008 by Frankidealist35]