Oprah is leading the mass awakening

reply to post by Skyfloating


We're not laughing at the OP and since your a MOD here maybe you can shine some light on this "mass conciousness"; preferably in a statistical matter. Just show me in numbers of people worldwide how many people are actually following Oprah.

I for one believe in all this 'NEW AGE garbage' as somebody so graciously put it, but to be honest, I won't be learning anything off oprah. The collective consciousness, law of attraction are only drop in the pond, and the ripple is coming, yet I think operah is only 'jumping on the band wagon'. Someone stated before she has the nack to spot a 'gap in the market' and she takes advantages of these.

I have no quarry with her, if she hadn't she wouldn't be the media sensation she is today, but I'm not sure I want to be taught about spirituality and enlightenement by her. She is good at manipulating people and even if she is doing this for a good reason, it just doesn't feel right.

thanks. EMM

reply to post by Lokey13


I think he was talking about how this story is obviously going to get media attention and because of that particular variable people might start to acknowledge the idealisms of becoming one in mind, body and spirit in a way that the conventional media fails to even comprehend, let alone attempt.

At least, that would only be because of the shift in demographic where the so-called 'new age' movement is concerned.


*clasps hands in worship position*

Blessed be Technology, for providing us the means of which we can understand ourselves better.

edit; for you to be so obviously antagonistic is abhorrent to my personal aesthetics.

I cannot help but wonder whether or not you even care.

[edit on 11-4-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]

reply to post by Lokey13


Since Im not talking as a MOD in this thread but as a member, adress me not as a Mod but a member. And in a more friendly fashion.

Then I might just consider responding to you. Maybe.

Originally posted by Throbber
A single pebble can cause a landslide....

That has got to be one of the best things I have read for a while!

Fantastic and so relevent to this discussion!

Originally posted by seawolf197
Is it possible to actually look into something before trashing it?

Seawolf.... Didn't you read the link provided?
It HAS been looked into. READ THIS THREAD

It exposes the truth behind the origins of her 'course in miracles'.
Oprah is a narcassist. She's spiritually bankrupt. She's pushing new age junk on the same people who think Obama is the messiah.

She may have media power. But that doesn't maker her any kind of 'spiritual leader'. Heck - Jimmy Swaggert had media power. Look what happened with him. Media power does NOT equal spiritual truth. It just means you can market yourself and your cult to more people.

reply to post by FlyersFan


One of the reasons that Oprah's new age BS is so appealing is because of the powerless feelings of the lower and lower middle classes.

It is a very short step from turning this quasi religious movement into a political Juggernaut that can throw the current political paradigm [God how I hate that word] into a cocked hat. In fact I think it has already happened. The pendulum is swinging away from the selfish, me first, greedy corporate mentality to resurgence of flower power and a goofy new age, love can conquer all type of mentality. You can see the beginnings of it when you walk down the mall and see the fashions displayed in the store windows.

Perhaps it's just a sociological cycle that is natural as the weather. I don't know. Or perhaps it is designed by forces that we can't even begin to understand.

Fun to watch though if you can detach and not get caught up in the drama.
Could someone please pass me the sweet and sour chicken....





[edit on 11-4-2008 by whaaa]

Originally posted by Skyfloating
reply to post by Lokey13

 

Since Im not talking as a MOD in this thread but as a member, adress me not as a Mod but a member. And in a more friendly fashion.

Perhaps Lokey was mislead ( as I ) because your Avatar says: Forum Moderator. Maybe you need another "Sign-On Name" if you want to wrestle with us minions.

Just sayin.

regards...kk



[edit on 11-4-2008 by kinda kurious]

Originally posted by 23Eulogy23
Or perhaps a large group of violent, testosterone filled men will lead the awakening?

There are plenty of power hungry women out there with egos that make testosterone-filled men look like sheep ready for the shearing

Oprah has plenty of "ego" to match any testosterone-filled male.

Oprah or no Oprah, the movement has started and won't be stopped, it's about people taking their power back from the enslavers of the world. What is ATS about anyway, a search for the truth, no? We can sit around and google all day looking for proof of what's really happening in the world, or we can tune in to our hearts and talk to people in our sphere about what we have learned...it's not that complicated. I don't necessarily need Oprah Winfrey to inspire me to search for the truth, but like others have said, she does have an audience that might otherwise not begin to look, or start looking when it's too late. So, for that reason, I'm glad of it. It is up to individual discerment and self-responsibility once the search has begun. It sounds like her class or whatever is pointing in the right general direction. So good.

Every little bit helps.

reply to post by Skyfloating


So you have no answer for me, you just had to say you didn't. Sorry if you thought I was impolite; not my intention.

reply to post by kinda kurious


Thanks for the back up kurious, the guy has a "big" title in his name and is trying to shy away from it. Agreed get a different sign on name if you don't want to be refered to as a MOD.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


Thank you for clearly stating what I have been hinting at in other posts I have made. You see, I have been a Christian my entire life. However, I have serious doubts and questions as to the quality of the teachings we are being force fed. Many don't make sense and seem egotistically based. Some of the stories seem to have been manipulated in order to set others above us. (Pope? Bishops? Pastors?) Yet the message I get when I really look into the teachings that Jesus presented (as best as I can with all of the mistranslations and such) seems to be a completely different message than the one presented by our religious leaders.

I'm sick and tired of religion being fear based instead of hope and love based like Jesus seemed to be trying.

Instead I hear the teachings that state we will pay for our eternity by tithing today. If we tithe little we will get a shack. If we tithe a lot we will get a mansion. This was exclaimed by a leader in this Christian denomination when he states he is now reverse tithing by giving 90% and living off of 10%.

I'm sorry. That doesn't seem to be the message I got from Jesus.

Very well thought out reply.

Thanks for it.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
I am a woman and I think Oprah is annoying has hell. Cant stand her.
So if she is leading anything, Im certainly not following. Nor is anyone that I know.

This may not be a church or religon, but it does sound cultish to me. Im sure she is in bed with Scientology anyways.

I agree, it is very cultish. I don't want to start a religion debate so please do not, I refuse to talk about religion on this board, however from a Christian's view, people feel she is absolutely trying to almost lead a cult of new age thinking. I really wouldn't take her seriously.

Thanks for the back up kurious, the guy has a "big" title in his name and is trying to shy away from it. Agreed get a different sign on name if you don't want to be refered to as a MOD.

Mods are people too (and have opinions)

Normally we dont post in threads we Mod and we dont Mod in threads we post, FYI.

This allows us not to have to change our opinion or appear politically correct just because of some title.

Peace.

[edit on 11-4-2008 by Skyfloating]

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Those who are laughing at the OP dont have a clue how mass-consciousness and accumulative tipping-points work. Not a clue.

She´s black and she´s a woman. And she´s midwifed more energy into mass-consciousness than most scientists, politicians and religious leaders put together.

But apparently she hasnt done enough as most still dont see the movement of energy in relation to mass-belief-systems.

You accuse those laughing at the OP as "not having a clue", but it may be you who is missing the point here. What many are saying, myself included, is that Oprah is just the latest incarnation of the "feel good" movement. Her disciples will drop her in a heartbeat for the next TV Messiah who is a little smoother with their sales pitch.

As for your claim of Oprah wielding all this energy, her introducing Dr. Phil to the world pretty much negates it.

"Midwifing" more energy than all scientists, religious leaders and politicians combined?
Yea...Oprah's done more for mass-consciousness than Louis Pasteur, Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill, Thomas Edison, Mother Theresa,
etc, etc.......

Being a mod isn't a "big title" geez give it a break.

Sorry to post off topic, but this is getting old, all the mod bashing.

Skyfloating was a great contributor this site before he became a mod and why shouldn't he post freely of his opinion even still?

Authority issues? No need to bring them here.

Some dicey manners in this thread...

I agree with Skyfloating's use of the term "tipping point". It is completely relative to the idea floated in the OP. If Oprah is wrapping this up and packaging it for her millions of fans, then it is certain that there are millions more on the bubble of their awakening consciousness'.

Oprah has a knack for coalescing people and defining trends. This move by her indicates that there is likely a significant shift in our world-wide collective consciousness. She is nothing if not the Queen of stating the obvious and making people say "Oh yeah, what a great idea".

I also wanted to point out, In her very first online class, chapter one, She does not want to be considered a guru and neither does Tolle, She is merely sharing. You have to realize these things on your own, this way of thinking will either produce a positive shift in you or it will mean nothing. Only people who are ready to experience such shift will it happen to.So its not just oprah sheep who are doing this, in fact it isnt oprah sheep at all. Its people who are willing to experience a spiritual shift. I predict this will spread like wild fire, Its not just oprah watchers, but their spouses and friends and in turn their friends and so on. It started out as 300,000 people, a not so recent count put it at 2 mil,

This is the dawning of the age of the Oprahma cult.
Read any good books lately?