Israel threatens Iran with destruction

reply to post by BlueRaja


Jealousy? For what? You must be kidding...

YOU'RE MAKING YOUR OWN ENEMIES WITH YOUR DAMNED FOOL, ARROGANT, WE'RE THE SUPERIOR ONE ACTS! YOU'RE STEALING AND RUINING EVERYTHING AND LIE TO EVERYONE!!!

I hope it's not hard for your mind to accept this little information. We're not jealous for this at all. We're just wondering that people with this style of life are still existing in the 21st century and not extinct. Barbar culture. No trace of dignity, honor or courage at all.



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reply to post by Dark Crystalline


Yo, dark ...

No one here really appreciates when someone who can't get their point across resorts to name-calling.

As far is Wiki, I chose it for two reasons, it was first on the list from my search and a lot of people here seem to live by it. But for you - and the others who didn't like the Wiki article because it proved them wrong - here's the original search:

search

Feel free to pick your own article, as they all pretty much say the same thing.



[edit on 4/7/2008 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by centurion1211

Actually, I'm more curious as to why you think this was? I mean do you have any reasons for that happening beyond prejudice (religious?) and anti-semitism? And what are your reasons for seeming to be so anti-Jewish?

I'm not actually sure of why they're so widely despised, but when you've been kicked out of every European and Arab country, something has to be wrong with you. Wouldn't you agree?

Everyone can't just be prejudiced..

I'm not Anti-Semitic as you imply, but it does gall me that we give Israel over five billion dollars a year in financial support from US taxpayer's dollars. This is in addition to charity organization contributions and military aid. Can you say Leech?

We have plenty of people in the United States that need assistance, let's help our own countrymen first. I don't believe that qualifies me as an Anti-Semitic do you?


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reply to post by Odium


You're completely ignoring historical context and perspect, not to mention using obtuse reasoning. We can sit here and argue about analogies, but the only thing that's gonna help is if you read some military history.

reply to post by centurion1211


I don't really care that who is appreciate this or not.

The wikipedia is one of the greatest disinformation site what ever has been created. It's easy to manipulate, easy to change any vital info in it and since most of the fools are relied on wiki, it's easy to manipulate the mess of the fools. I hope you can follow me. It's for the sheeps. Check some books instead.

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reply to post by manticore


You're leaving out some vital info-

A-they wouldn't attack if they didn't think they could get away with it(i.e. first strike with their own WMD, or use of proxy agents- i.e. terrorists)

B-you're assuming they use the same rationale as that of the western mind. Self preservation isn't as a high a priority for extremists, if you hadn't noticed. Martyrdom is pretty sexy in their mind though.

reply to post by BlueRaja


Oh I know enough about history.

Would you like the long list of Jewish Terrorists that killed British soliders? The fact Israel was promised to another group of people and not the Jews? I can go on and on all day.

Why was it fine for the Jewish people to kill British soliders so they could get a homeland?

Originally posted by SaviorComplex

Originally posted by Harlequin
They attacked the Golan Heights after the cease fire and systematically murdered the withdrawing [in accordance to the UN] troops...

Would you care to tell us when the cease-fire came into affect and when the Golan Heights was captured?

the UN brokered cease fire was due to start on the 7th june - israel believed that the USS Liberty had intercepted it plans to attack golan and openly (with jamming support on us frequencies) attack the ship with multiple aircraft passes and torpedo boats (the aircraft were unmarked as well)

the US 6th fleet launched aircraft to try and save the liberty but the aircraft were ordered to turn back by mcknamara then the president

daccessdds.un.org...


anyway its nice to see the zionist apologists have all arrived in the thread and will of course detract the israeli policy of killing first then walk away by blaming everyone else.

Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
reply to post by centurion1211

 

I don't really care that who is appreciate this or not.

The wikipedia is one of the greatest disinformation site what ever has been created. It's easy to manipulate, easy to change any vital info in it and since most of the fools are relied on wiki, it's easy to manipulate the mess of the fools. I hope you can follow me. It's for the sheeps. Check some books instead.

[edit on 7-4-2008 by Dark Crystalline]

Don't be a fool. Read the responses you get and then respond appropriately to them.

First, sorry (for you) if you don't care about your fellow ATS'ers. Makes it tough to have a meaningful discussion.

Second, your Wiki contention has already been answered. You've just repeated nonsense, as all the other news sources (saying the same thing) cannot be manipulated in the way you claim Wiki can.

Last, your "check some books" comment. This is the 21st century. No, really, check a calendar. That said, posting book references instead of online references just doesn't work due to people having to go find the book. Then what would you have us do, scan the pages into a .jpg file to post here? No, this is so ridiculous that it can only be an attempted deflection or smokescreen on your part. Again, an example of failed logic.



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reply to post by LLoyd45


Hey but it was a reason for modern Israel -people do not like us when we do not assimilate and they really hate us when we do. So lets go to historical motherland and have our own country and not get on their nerves. Worked like magic.
Also to remind you that facts are still facts. Go through a list of European and Muslim ciuntries and then tell me what "Every European or Muslim country" means in your vocabulary.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


League of Nations, First British Mandate of Palestine. The land should not have been given to the Jewish people when it was promised to another group of people first.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge
Out of curiosity, I looked for a list of countries they had been driven from, and this is what I found... It's quite a large list if it's accurate, and it even provides dates.

reply to post by Harlequin

I cannot find anything about 7th June cease fire. War started on 5th of June. And cease fire after two days? It was six days war.Syrian forces on Golan heights were attacked on 9th of june. If there was a cease fire on 7th - 2 days are not enough to withdraw forces from a dozen kilometers? And why this withdrawing force continued shelling Israel in total disregard of the supposed truce?
Finally, Liberty attack was a tragic one. However it did not answer the question and can be seen as an attempt to derail the discussion.

Originally posted by Harlequin
the UN brokered cease fire was due to start on the 7th june

The cease-fire wasn't signed until the 11th...hence why it is called the Six Day War.

Originally posted by Harlequin
israel believed that the USS Liberty had intercepted it plans to attack golan...

And there is no evidence for that. It is just conjecture...

reply to post by Harlequin


"Anyway its nice to see the Zionist apologists have all arrived in the thread and will of course detract the Israeli policy of killing first then walk away by blaming everyone else.”

You have used the term Zionist many times in your anti-Jewish posts.

I have in several of those posts asked you what Zionist is/means, you have never answered.

Do you not know, in which case you are simple spreading slander--without even knowing what it means.

We are supposed to DENY ignorance.

BTW, it is a bit off topic, but I will be happy to post a response with definitions, if anybody actually wants to know what term others are using, yet not knowing what it means.

Now, back on topic. Let’s deny ignorance, shall we?

The article said,” An Israeli minister has threatened Iran with destroying the country if the Islamic Republic launches 'an attack on the regime'"

Now, as I have said, no Israeli refers to their government as a regime-that is Muslim terrorist words.

But that a side, what does it say, "IF" Iran launches an attack on Israel, ""An Iranian attack against Israel would trigger a tough reaction that would lead to the destruction of the Iranian nation," National Infrastructure Minister Benjamin Ben-Eliezer said, AFP reported Monday."

SOOOOOO, as long as Iran does not attack directly or indirectly using the hamas/hezbolla lapdogs, they will be fine.

Since they see that as a threat, that clearly indicates Iran intends to attack directly or indirectly and is worried about the response they will get.

reply to post by mrmonsoon


"An Israeli minister has threatened Iran with destroying the country if the Islamic Republic launches 'an attack on the regime'."

Regime is surely the Government and thus not the country? It's very hard to exactly say what they can and cannot do? Surely some form of media assault on the Government is an attack on the regime?

Originally posted by SaviorComplex

And there is no evidence for that. It is just conjecture...

I'd say the word of the survivors are sufficient for most people. They have a really nice web site, and it's quite informative.

Here's a quote from the then Secretary of State Dean Rusk regarding the incident:

"But I was never satisfied with the Israeli explanation. Their sustained attack to disable and sink Liberty precluded an assault by accident or soem trigger-happy local commander. Through diplomatic channels we refused to accept their explanations. I didn't believe them then, and I don't believe them to this day. The attack was outrageous."

LINK



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reply to post by Odium


You are missing the point.

Only Muslims and anti-Israeli's use the term regime for the Israeli government.

Since that is obvious, that quote is pure BS-especially with no one referenced so they can publicly say it is BS-typical.

"Regime is surely the Government and thus not the country?
It's very hard to exactly say what they can and cannot do? Surely some form of media assault on the Government is an attack on the regime? "

The regime is what Muslims and anti-Israelis use-not actual citizens.

Hard to say what they can or cannot do?

Do you refer to the ability to destroy Iran if they attack Israel directly or indirectly??

If that is your reference, yes they can.

If you are wondering if Israelis can disagree with the government publicly-yes they can and do all the time, as opposed to what would happen in a Muslim country if someone disagrees with their government.

reply to post by ergoli

The Bauer/Rothschild family wants to have a central-bank in Iran. They've been using the militaries of Israel, Britain, and America to force their will upon the common middle easterners for several decades.

reply to post by LLoyd45


Well i might trust site that says Jews were run out of every country in Europe and starts with Carthage???? Then Alexandria.... People,it is not Europe.
Also i had no hopes for Europe, Nazis held most of it so those historians (but not geographers) from that site could save the effort.
As for Arab countries - it is not true. Even after 1948 when majority of Arab countries expelled majority of Jews- there were Arab countries that did not. Bahrain,Afghanistan (not sure it is Arabic),Lebanon. There. At least two.
However this discussion helped me with something - i better find another globe. Goggle/Virgil enlisted Mars colonists? Here i come...