FBI Sets up Fake Child Porn Links That if Clicked Trigger Armed Raids on Users

not surprised to see how many people on here are falling for this, hook - line - and sinker.

Child porn will be the new crack, that cops place on the perp/corpse as a nail in the coffin. Being accused of child abuse will also get you into a federal database for life, and most likely tracked for the rest of your life.

I've heard lots of people calling to chip (rfid chip) all sex offenders as well.

Like I said, child porn / abuse will be the excuse to start testing the removal of all rights from people. Then after they have all the bugs worked out, YOU WILL BE CHIPPED NEXT.

Now please excuse me, I am going to ignore every single person that was supporting the FBI in this thread, to keep my blood pressure down. I really, really, really despise all of you that say "good for the fbi!" No, really. It's probably the most infuriating and ignorant thing I've read on here in a while, including all of Jedi's posts combined. (heh, sorry Jedi! )

Fighting ignorance with ignore - ance - the only way to stay sane on ATS.

edit: apparently, "You cannot ignore more than 10 members." Damn. They win again.

[edit on 24-3-2008 by scientist]

It reminds me of the drug 'stings' where they approach someone and say, "You want to buy some dope/green?"
If they say yes/how much or something simliar, out come the guns and handcuffs.

Not that I don't despise kiddy-fiddlers but as pointed out by others, some people can and will be arrested and charged even though they are totally innocent. It could have negative impacts on their lives forever.

Perhaps they should try to entise politicians, judges and the like....

you know, i cant help but think of this story, from all of a week or two ago:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

A Queensland police officer caught with more than 8000 child porn images on his home computer has avoided spending any time in jail.

I find another reason to love my fellow man more and more, everyday.

Yeah that came to mind right away to me Scientist! For shame..

I didn't wanna mention it as discussing police officers in a negative light seems to attract alot of OT aggressiveness from ATS's resident cops.

Still, that was a cop and not a fed. Granted FBI just seems like glorified cops on a bigger budget.

Hi there hansome american man.
We are very cute but naughty Japanese girls who love to do things with men who are 18 or older.
Just to see what you will get when you meet us, we want you to look at some explicite photos that were taken of us in the act.
All you have to do is to click on our link. You will be so happy you did.
Do not worry that we are going to turn you in to the FBI.
Oh, don't you trust us?
We are real girls and we just want to meet you .

[edit on 25-3-2008 by jmdewey60]

Just kidding.
These are not real girls.
But did you feel like clicking on them?
If you did, turn yourself in right away.
A piece of paper with some ink lines just got abused by you thinking about it.

reply to post by deltaboy


Well then, whomever has looked at those videos at the FBI needs arrested too, as they've seen something that they aren't allowed to see. Besides, they are in possession of the offending videos, and the ORIGINALS to boot!!!

Remember now, possession is 9/10ths of the law!!

FBI, you're BUSTED!!!

TheBorg

It really sickens me that they have the biggest stash of illegal pornography on the planet, and its all in the name of "evidence".

I'm not talking about the average FBI agent, but those higher ups that go to these mock human sacrifices and the priests that are constantly being charged with raping little kids - you know these sick # have access to every bit of it.

Bunch of psychopathic perverts are all they are.

I seriously wouldn't be shocked if they were involved in child porn rings. I know that is a theory that has been going around for quite some time, and I've never really looked in to it, but it really would not surprise me at all if it were true. That's pretty sad when you can say that about your "leaders".

I won't be looking in to it now because there's no telling what link I may click on. Can't be looking for the truth. That'd make me a child predator.

This is probably to cover their tracks. They'll hide links in websites that provide information about possible child porn rings they run.

Nothing would shock me at this point.

[edit on 3/25/08 by NovusOrdoMundi]

Novus,

You are a very bright person. Yes this conspiracy has been going on for quite some time and there is something to it as there are some incredibly insane perverts running the world who would have no problem picking up an innocent child from a parents stroller and throw it under a passing parade float without hesitation.

If the FBI did this then why not do it properly? Make a website that claims to have the latest sick content and make them sign up with their credit card, paypal accounts etc. This would stop the simple scam of site forwarding or trojans being used although it wouldn't stop someone stealing a credit card and using it. Oh and for people who say that's far fetched i know it's happened to people so not that far fetched.

It does however reduce the chances of the wrong person being caught a great deal and may even scare these sickos away from these sites in case they're an FBI front. However the sad fact is these sick perverts tend to know the internet very well. They often use private chat rooms, rooms that are hard to find without someone having told you about them.

Before someone asks how i know that it's because i worked with computers for a long time and know the internet very well. There are many parts of the internet that most people just aren't aware of, maybe the FBI should concentrate their forces on these fringes, they would catch more people that way i think.

reply to post by dk3000


Thank you for the compliment.

It's very sick and very disturbing, indeed. It just can't even be put in to words.

I'm very critical of Alex Jones, but one thing he said about these people I completely agree with and it has stuck with me since I heard it. I'm definitely paraphrasing, but it was something to the effect that these people have so much power and they do so much to harm others that it becomes normal and they need to "get off" in some other way, so they do sick things like this.

It's just unimaginable how these people act. They have no soul at all.


reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


I think those are very good ideas. I think a history of this stuff, a credit card number and an IP address all leading back to the same person would be a great start in POSITIVELY identifying the right people that truly do mean harm and are a threat to children.

It needs a lot of oversight though. There's still a slight potential for abuse even in that case. It needs to be a public operation, and not some secret round up.

But the current system, or at least what I'm aware of about it, is unacceptable. I'm all for rounding up these people that are truly guilty of it, but there's too big of a chance for "collateral damage", so to speak, and innocent people end up having their lives ruined. It's far too risky and far too vague.

[edit on 3/25/08 by NovusOrdoMundi]

Hummmm, What if a disgruntled co-worker, employee, spouse, maid....who- ever gets to your computer and clicks this link ?? How in the world would you ever prove your innocence??

( a few years back, a computer-illiterate co-worker deleted some of my files by just goofing around on my computer for a few minutes.....so it's not so far fetched to think it could even happen 'by accident'.....Then what??)

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

If the FBI did this then why not do it properly? Make a website that claims to have the latest sick content and make them sign up with their credit card, paypal accounts etc.

Offering illegal services for money is criminal solicitation, wether or not you provide those services.

Since when does the FBI let a little thing like that stop them?

We're talking about catching pedophiles here! Human rights, the law, and the Constitution aren't nearly as important! Or at least, that's what they've convinced the judges to rule.

Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

 

If the FBI did this then why not do it properly? Make a website that claims to have the latest sick content and make them sign up with their credit card, paypal accounts etc.

Offering illegal services for money is criminal solicitation, wether or not you provide those services.

Is it? Well i think that's one thing that needs to be changed in this case, i know the UK police have taken similar steps as the FBI.

www.theregister.co.uk...

From the article

And in a final twist to the crackdown the police are creating fake paedophile websites known as 'honey-traps' aimed at catching casual requests for paedophile websites.

People logging on think they have found a pervert’s website but when they try and download an image they are told that they have attempted to commit a crime, their details have been logged and they may be prosecuted.

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984


Well, I'm sure they could come up with some legalese doublespeak to get around the "criminal solicitation." Perhaps if the pay-site had various material, but in one section sat the "honey pot." You weren't paying for the illegal material per-se. Perhaps even a portion of the website where you had to re-enter your password to gain further access. I'd rather see them use their willingness to bend the law in that direction, then what we have seen here.

There was a story out a few days ago about a porn ring busted that I thought made more sense than most suggestions, here.
The real sinister things on the internet are ones that set up a kind of club, where in order to join, you have to submit original material.
The hard core pedo's already would have the generaly available porn collected, already.
They would be able to tell if your submission was out of that pool.
They are looking for brand new stuff they can have produced, on demand.
This is the type of ring they infiltrated, and the type of thing that should be focused on as targets. People who currently have victems in hand and are in the proccess of abusing them.
In order to pull off a sting like this, the FBI would have to have in custody porn that they knew had not been previously distributed. So, there could be an argument to keep certain pieces of evidence, in order to use it in future investigations.
I am no expert on the subject, I just read some of the news articles that I run across, to have some idea what is going on.

[edit on 25-3-2008 by jmdewey60]

I think the FBI just went about this the wrong way, they need to make it so that anyone using their honey trap website is identified in multiple ways.

The best way of doing all of this is of course using two different approaches. Firstly stickng tons of agents in chat rooms all over the net, when someone tries to solicite them then they get a warrant and search that persons home computer. If they find porn then they have their man, of course you could use a trojan to put such things on someones computer but if you have chat logs and the porn then the odds of it being a set up are miniscule.

The second way would be to get FBI agents into the paedophile webrings, i know certain government agencies and police forces already try to do this and these methods tend to lead to their biggest busts. The chat rooms are in the dark corners of the internet where most people don't tend to go, i'm sure the government knows where to find them though. I think most people would support funding for this.

We do need to protect kids online and we really do need to remove this sick porn, but we must be careful not to be to zelous, otherwise we may imprison innocent people. We must always remember the neutrality of the internet, my fear is they may try and use this to get full public support for abandoning net neutrality. It might be easier to take down these sites under a corporately controlled internet, but the idea of free speech will go with it.

About time the FBI starts doing its job.

reply to post by NorthWolfe CND


If by 'doing it's job' you mean creating vague traps that will no doubt ruin the lives of hundreds of people, then yes, it is about time.

I really wish people would look further in to things. All they see is "FBI = GOOD FOR STOPPING CHILD PORN!!!" and they look no further. That's what these criminals count on - ignorance.