younger generation believers...with experiences

Hello friends,

I must congratulate Cosmicstorm for accomplishing what I have tried to do for a long time, "gather ourselves together."

I often write when it is time for something to be it will be, so it seems that it is now time for this thread to be.

Just so you know a little about me I'm a 59 year old Grandma raising 5 of 7 Grandkids ages 7-16.

I have written about experiences and if you haven't read them and are interested they are in the skunk works way, way, wayyyyyyyyyyy back on like page 13 and titled, "My Life with an Alien Soul."

I commend all of you for being so young and coming forward and sharing, it is time that this is finally happening. As with our age differences you can understand that the people my age didn't have the luxury of sharing our information because we didn't have the technology of this www.

My lessons were always with the same being and in human terminology I called him my Teacher. In all the years we had contact there were never names used.

You are at the age that it is all of you that have to save this planet. The self centering and greed that has come from my generation is shameful however, I will say that in the past few years people my age are attempting to make things right and we need your help.

If you look at most of the Leaders running Governments and big Business you can see the greed and they use YOU to make them who they are. It is up to you to change this.

I never felt that I ever had a right to be involved with anything to do with Politics for example. I observe mostly and from what I observe is this election is going to come down to your decision on the up coming elections. From what I observe if either Hillary or McCain are elected by the older generation we are doomed. There is Obama but also remember there are also others running..... you need to really look at the others also and make your decision. You have to be your own person and go with your gut. Our future is in your hands.

What is making me proud of you is you know you are different. It was said that the MEEK shall inherit the Earth. I can see in the ones here in this thread know what is important in life and it isn't gadget's to amuse you 24/7 to kill time, it's gadget's that will help/improve life.

I have no doubt a New Beginning is coming and Earth will be cleansed because of the good you do.

You have to get involved with this Planet, it is a beautiful and unique Planet. The water, soil, air all has to be repaired. I was told over 50 years ago for every tree destroyed it had to be replanted 10 fold, I can only wonder what that ten fold is in 2008.

When I wrote, "The Tree of Life" I mean "The Tree of Life" for without it humans will not exist.

As you know our oxygen comes from this precious, beautiful (taken for granted) species. Foods come from these Trees and Plants. Cures for all known Viruses come from the roots of these Plants.

Everything humans need Earth provides and if you don't heal her she will heal herself without you.

Time is a human thing and if you look up time you will see why it was created, to keep schedules. Life wasn't meant for you to live by the Elitist schedule to make them rich. Earth wasn't meant to be divided into boundries and to be sold......... it was meant to be free for all.

I believe many of you can resonate with what I am attempting to say and I will be observing the path you take us too. We can correct this but we are at the point of no return right now.

I believe you are here like myself to help Earth, there are many of us and we need to find more of us there is a lot of work coming soon without a doubt.

If humans don't thank you for attempting to make change for the good, the Trees, Plants, Animals and insects will one day.

[edit on 26-3-2008 by observe50]

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^^ Observe has a good point... I feel what she is saying sincerely... But im sure it is only a part of the big problem at hand. Such as green technology, Solar Panels.. Wind Mills... Thermal Generators etc. Recycling etc. We have a lot of chores on our hands. So how would we approach something like this... as I do agree that such activeness is needed. What to do tho?

I have to clarify before I say this what my stance is when it comes to the philosophy, for lack of a better term, that I employ when considering these matters. Skepticism doesn't mean what most people think it does - a skeptic is not a debunker or a non-believer per say. Skepticism is actually an ancient philosophy that requires proof for acceptance of fact, but also allows for open-minded agnosticism and suspicion or intuition because it refrains from making any assertions of its own as well (such as the assertion that something ISN'T true) without proof. And since my standards for "proof" are incredibly high, there is literally nothing that I don't have an open mind about. I truly believe, quite literally, that anything is possible. Because of that, I am what you might call - as oxymoronical as this may sound to many - a deeply spiritual agnostic skeptic. I am not a calculating, intellectual skeptic, but rather a reactive and intuitive one, who places importance on emotion to the same (and often a greater) degree as he does on logic. So, with that in mind, what I'm about to say isn't intended to be a statement of fact or even belief, but merely speculation and intuition based on my own experiences thus far in life.

The previous few posts allude to a great responsibility on the part of this generation (and no doubt subsequent generations) of "experiencers." My intuition tends to agree with that sentiment. However, I think it's important to consider the possibility that each individual varies in terms of capabilities, talents, ways of thinking, ways of feeling, and even in some cases perhaps specific intended purposes; that we are each unique and different, while linked to a shared greater, collective role. (Again, this isn't a statement of fact or belief, but merely intuition and speculation on my part.)

I say this because my own experiences have often consisted of elements that, when not dismissed or explained away by alternative explanations, seem to represent specific information or messages being imparted. That information seems, for me, to come in the form of some sort of strange "life encryption," for lack of a better term. For instance, without getting too specific, there have been things that I experienced which gave me information, phrases, sentences, or imagery that made no sense at the time, but which became clearer (though remain unresolved) after subsequent experiences, meeting certain people, or being given further information from whatever the source may or may not have been. It's almost as if I'm not meant to understand yet. Why that would be the case I can only speculate about. Possibilities off the top of my head include the prospect of something "going awry" with respect to whatever I'm supposed to do (if anything) if I were to understand prematurely (ala Donnie Darko, as an example,) and a sort of "time release" formula to ensure that I know what I need to know only when I'm actually in some future situation that requires that knowledge.

Again, I'm not even saying that I have had definitive experiences that rise to the level of extraterrestrial/extradimensional contact, covert human activities, or paranormal phenomena, but merely that if I have (as I am open to the possibility and these are one possible explanation for my experiences,) then my intuition seems to tell me that at least for me it isn't as simple as trying to change the world for the better - that there is something specific I am supposed to do, but that whatever that is isn't something I can quite understand yet. Pieces fall into place over time, literally as if a sort of experiential encryption key is slowly turning over tumblers in the lock protecting the mystery of the information I feel has been imparted, but the totality of the picture or the information's actual nature continues to elude me for the time being. And, as this has been something mystifying me since I was a teenager and perhaps earlier, I can only imagine how long it could be before I truly am allowed to understand (again, if anything is even happening.) If this is true for me, then I suspect it may also be true of others.

In any case, my mind and heart are open, and I want to do what I feel is right when and if the time does ever present itself... whatever that ends up being, if anything.

(edited for grammar and clarity)

[edit on 3/26/2008 by AceWombat04]

reply to post by cosmicstorm


yeah, cosmicstorm i wrote in a previous post that i was paralyzed in bed with my fiance..i could only move my eyes at the time. i was so afriad i mustered all my strength to move my hand which was laying ontop of the pillow of my fiance. i tried for the better part of 15 min to get my hand on her head so i could pull her hair, in an attempt to wake her up. all the while i saw fleeting images of a gray looking over us but very close to my face. i was able to get my hand on her head but could only slowly pass my finger tips over her hair. i was so exhausted from moving my hand only a couple of inches that i had to fall asleep. i was surprised by this.

only 4 days before this i fell asleep on my couch. durring the 6 o clock hour pm. i was totally paralyzed with eyes open. i was struggling very hard to get my body to move. i with a doubt had the feeling that someone was in the room. then this happened....i was allowed to have control over my faculties (hands only) i pulled them up and opened my hands to see my fingers while lying on my back. to my surprise my hands werent there. i was looking right at them! but they werent there. i was opening and closing my hands but i could not see them. i KNEW i was experiencing this, i felt totally aware. then near the end the fear became extremely intense. i woke up and felt very disoriented after all the mental tossing and turning.

while im on the subject, ive even been paralyzed in the class room at school. i fell asleep at my desk. i could hear my teach saying, "wake Caleb up please" the entire time i was awake! i had my head on the table and was able to open my eyes and stare right into my friends eyes. i telepathically was trying to tell him that i was awake but could not move. this was my first ever experience with it. after i was "up" i asked him "did you see me look at you" he said yes. i told him what was happening to me. he actually felt sorry i had to go through something so scary.

[edit on 03/06/2008 by LordThumbs]

Originally posted by indierockalien
I'm afraid of lightning. That might relate.

Like.... that's my number 1 fear. Lightning, and since thunder is related, that gets me nervous as well.

Where's....my.... puffer?

*POOT POOT*

ahh that's better.

Same here.. *poot poot* LOL...I have no fear of a good thunderstorm but the lightning has to stay far far away. I asked because it somehow stops me from experimenting with it, i've seen some great ideas on the web for anti gravity machines and so on, it fascinates me very much.. only problem is you need high powered electrics to make it work.

Originally posted by jkrog08
I remeber for a month or so when I was 15 and having these dreams almost everynight,every morning I would feel sick and vomit-I wasnt sick or anything just nauseous.I remember talking to someone about it that was into this kinda stuff and they said it might be gravity sickness-from being exposed to artificial or less gravity for prolonged periods.Anyone on here ever have that happen to them?

not sure but i've seen it... check this video

reply to post by AceWombat04


That could be true, but what do you think it is? What are your talents... and when you watch what is going on in this world... what do you feel you should do. If you get angry at the world why... what if you could do anything... would you do?

Sorry if this is off topic.

Every once in a while I see a thread that hits home. I am in the same boat as the OP.

I had an aduction experience when I was about the same age. I always feel that I am different than everyone else. Strange events seem to occur all around me. My whole life I feel like there is something that I need to do, but I have no idea what it is. I feel like I am constantly searching for it. I can't have relationships at all. Its always a wierd feeling I have, it is like, I know something that nobody else knows, but I don't know what it is.

I don't like to talk about it, because I am fairly skeptic of even myself. And sometimes I think that maybe I am just a little bit crazy, but I am glad to see that there is other people out there that have this problem.

Originally posted by rjmelter
reply to post by AceWombat04

 

That could be true, but what do you think it is? What are your talents... and when you watch what is going on in this world... what do you feel you should do. If you get angry at the world why... what if you could do anything... would you do?

Sorry if this is off topic.

I honestly have no idea. I don't even know if I have any talents, per say. In fact, if I do have any “talents” or abilities, they seem limited to my ability to put together my own personal puzzle pieces and interpret them in the context of my own life. I’m not particularly intelligent in my opinion; I suffer from great difficulty in mathematics; I can play and create music, but most of it is fairly derivative, albeit emotionally honest to the best of my ability, and I’m not very good; I’m a horrible orator; I suffer from social anxiety and insecurity.

By talents, I was just trying to expound upon the notion that we may all have different strengths - perhaps even strengths that to society (or even to one another) might seem totally useless, but might be critical to some highly specialized role that we are unaware of. I'm interested in the possibility that rather than an obvious, direct purpose, some (perhaps many or all, for all we know) "experiencers" might have a specific task that they are unable to become aware of until a specific time or at a specific point in their personal development. That's what my intuition tells me may be going on in my case, since to my knowledge I have no outstanding talents or abilities, and since the information or "messages" I've encountered in past experiences seem to only become relevant at certain subsequent stages of my life. Most of it still eludes me as far as meaning or direction, but as time passes I experience things that make past events seem clearer, or things that seemed unrelated suddenly appear related.

Again though, that's all just speculation and intuition on my part. For all I know, if this applies to anyone it might be completely personal to me.
(edit: fixed a typo.)

[edit on 3/26/2008 by AceWombat04]

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I Fully agree with you on the puzzle. It isn't something that will just come to us it is something we have to discover for ourselves. That is how true knowledge comes. If we were to be able to just instantly do something we would eventually abuse it. So in learning it we have a full understanding of that knowledge and how best to use it... in my oppinion.

Everyone has their own talents. It would be a lie to tell someone that if they cant do one thing they are useless because like previous posts say... We all ARE one. We are one race... but we all rely on different experiences to teach us... and what we have learned we can bring to the table. I hope you discover what it is in time. Knowledge is power. The thing I see here though is Knowledge is being given to people who would not abuse that power... this makes me more then ecstatic... its about time...

So where did all the fellow posters go? Have yall figured out anything new?

Ace,

What you have said is what I have tried to say but you did say it much better then I ever could.

If I am correct you basically were explaining the downloading/programming I tried to explain earlier. Hmmmm, now that I think of it I believe my computer shut down just as I was ready to post that so maybe none of you did get to see it. (I will have to check)

I do know they tend to do this and it will BE ALLOWED to be recalled when it is time.

Example for myself I have been downloaded/programmed with the Cures for all known Viruses. Can you even imagine knowing this and everyday seeing people suffer. You have to remember there is a time and place for everything and when it is time for this to come to light it will..... until that time no one will be able to access this information.

Last Friday night for example I got the vibration in my third eye area and I immediately knew there was incoming (downloading/programming) coming. I shut my eyes and in the third eye I could see the Egyptian symbols being downloaded. It only lasted about 5 seconds and I thought to myself what's the deal with Egyptian Symbols. The vibration stopped and it was done.

This is the way it works and maybe with time if this happens to you you will understand what is about to happen.

You have to realize your feelings/gut is telling you things. This is exactly why people like ourselves need to communicate because we all probably have different pieces to a greater puzzle and all it takes is to read, something that might trigger a recall. You might hear a sound that triggers something or you might see something.

HERE They are discussing this Thread (talking about this thread) I thought it was interesting.

Duality has a good point

I posted something more ignorant eariler so I reposted...

And what TheMacX says below he has a good point or a good way to look at it.

I think human evolution is taking another step... or something... because a lot is going on.

[edit on 26-3-2008 by rjmelter]

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I don't see it as a problem, for me it's part of our evolution... and if any of the niburu/sumarian pre history is true (i'm not so sure of that) it could well be that we're being modified again.

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I'm still around, just trying to collect my thoughts. It seems like we've come as far as saying that we do have a lot of similarities (I also have the cat allergy). These are pretty varied experiences yet a lot of us seem to share in many aspects of it.

But now what? What do we do with the information? I'm all for saving the environment, I've been looking into sustainable living and we have plans for building as sustainable a house as we can based on our finances.

I do agree with wombat that we probably all have different purposes. I think everyone really has a purpose in life, but we really can't say what it is until the situation comes up.

When it comes to the thread that says ATSers have mental illness and talks about this thread in particular... I can't say I'm surprised. I know the things we say (and hell, a lot of the things I've said) are hard to prove and therefore it's all too easy to write us off as nutters. I knew the risk of being labelled mentally ill before I chose to share my stories with all of you. In the end it's a risk we all had to take in order to exchange our information. It seems to be extremely common to write off anyone who talks about uncommon, or strange information as insane or delusional. I guess it's just human nature to reject that which you can't relate to.

I won't lie, if I'd never had any of these experiences and I came on here and read I'd think all these people were crazy too. But I have, and I'm okay with it if not everyone can believe it, or if some people will write it off as the ravings of a lunatic. I'm just happy that we are able to share our experiences. I know I have nothing to gain by lying, and I don't think anyone else does either. If I didn't know better I'd call myself insane too, but I'm not. I'm a fully functioning human being like any other. I just so happen to experience strange things, because this world isn't so cut and dry as some people would like to think.

I'm surprised it didn't come up sooner. I didn't see the usual skeptics in this thread screaming for proof. Cut out your implants, photograph it, send it to us. Strap a camera to your head so they can have proof. That kind of thing haha. I know i'm exaggerating a little bit... but... you get my point. It's so easy to say what you would do in a situation, if you've never actually been in it.

Good point poison

The thread has reached a point of the journey

We have walked up to the wall and now we have to figure out if there is a door there, should we climb over the wall, should we blow it down etc? So then if that has happened we have to figure out whats going on... why do we feel this way... I guess we need to catalog all of everyone feelings of why they feel different put them on a post and look for similarities and then figure out what makes us feel this way. There is an anwser we just have to look deep into ourselves and figure it out. I like this post and ATS

Threads like that happen when you share your thoughts and experiences with others.
being labelled mental doesn't feel good. It hurts..

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Blue- Be who you are and accept who you are... Everything happens for a reason. Anyone who attacks another has no place in peace... they do not understand. They are without knowledge... if there were something knowledgeable about that they would have posted it here first. He does have a good point but psychological issues happen to everyone. NOBODY is immune. A kid who is abused all his life has a choice to be a coward a normal person or a rapist or something worse. If anyone here did fall into any of those categories i see your love for other individuals and that is what makes you the better person... You use negative events in your life for the betterment of mankind,society. Be who you are. You are who you are.

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I am who I am and I accept myself. I myself often attack others too.. Don't know why. Maybe it's what I chose to be when I realized that life isn't as easy and beautiful as it looked when I was still a child.

Edit:
I think that one single person can't do much to help mankind in any way.

[edit on 26-3-2008 by Blue10110]

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Then maybe part of this posts reason for existent might help to encourage you that physically without knowledge that it is not possible... but when you have a group of people who believe in the same thing things are possible. And yet still if you are with knowledge it is possible but with this complication you woul dhave to use devout knowledge to actually make a difference and then yes it would be possible... but much of the laws today would have you arrested for some of the methods... but maybe thats the point... isn't it? You have just pointed out something important blue... and it does matter and so do you. You would rather let an ignorant individual bring you down... i find that sad... You seem very bright to me not to let his negativity bring your positivity down. That is another problem in todays world. Negativity Rules... its what we are taught... even in the Bibles....We are Positive beings. Lets start acting like it.

Originally posted by jkrog08
I remeber for a month or so when I was 15 and having these dreams almost everynight,every morning I would feel sick and vomit-I wasnt sick or anything just nauseous.I remember talking to someone about it that was into this kinda stuff and they said it might be gravity sickness-from being exposed to artificial or less gravity for prolonged periods.Anyone on here ever have that happen to them?

Now you mention it, it didnt have that stuff you experienced when waking up, but when i was three years old i ALWAYS had a bloodnose (dont know if thats the right word, just blood coming outta my nose) when waking up, every single day untill i wass like 8 or 9 years old.

Doctors never new what it was and what caused it, and still i sometimes have it, but now only when its exceptionally warm, like some summerday's .

I guess its just normal but with all these experiences it makes me wonder...

About the classrooms, damn i never thought when telling that that so many of you guys are "attending class" while dreaming too... this is so very scary, damn. Maybe weve al met in a classroom-dream before , because i do remember being there with humans and some other species, getting lessons about the universe and its life.

I always thought they were just dreams but since last night when i stumbled across this thread and you guys with almost exactly the same dreams, i do not believ it any more.
They arent just dreams and they arent coincidences... but what it really is/means, i dont know, and its frustrating me.

With all of us coming together here and all of us telling almost exactly the same experiences/dreams, there is something much much bigger at stake, and i really feel WE must figure out what it is.