STS-75 Tether Incident - Mystery solved! Breaking News!

Jim, I'm just saying what the TOPS camera was for..optical phenomena.
And what the tether video shows is optical phenomena...UFOs!

I am saying that between the downloads & other videos & photos...you should have a good picture of this ice.

I am asking you Jim...what caused the tether to break. What was the final conclusion? The STS-46 was cut by debris..correct?

If the cause of the STS-46 break was orbital debris, then why was that not considered another possibility? Why would it not happen again? If the STS -75 tether had no voltage flowing as insisted at the press conference by NASA what else could it be?

The German Space Agency did a gravity experiment on a previous flight & the test was to see how single cells swim in 0 G.

The experiment was downloaded live, showing the cells under a microscope swimming together when VOLTAGE is introduced at 0 G. to see what the living cells do.

They began swimming randomly, some fast, some tumbling..total chaos!

The video looks like biology tank, just what so many said the tether looked like.

The tether UFOs..are they living space craft or living creatures? The introduction of Tether voltage & the behavior of the UFO phenomena are the same as the German experiment!
Just saying!

originally posted by: buzzEmiller
Jim, I'm just saying what the TOPS camera was for..optical phenomena.
And what the tether video shows is optical phenomena...UFOs!

I'm not making myself clear. Why should the TOPS UV camera even have been on, when the swarm appeared?

And since the camera was bore-sighted up the shuttle -Z axis, where the tether was extended, why would it have seen the tether when the swarm showed up?

originally posted by: buzzEmiller
If the cause of the STS-46 break was orbital debris, then why was that not considered another possibility? Why would it not happen again? If the STS -75 tether had no voltage flowing as insisted at the press conference by NASA what else could it be?

Can anybody help Martyn with a much needed reality check?

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: buzzEmiller
If the cause of the STS-46 break was orbital debris, then why was that not considered another possibility? Why would it not happen again? If the STS -75 tether had no voltage flowing as insisted at the press conference by NASA what else could it be?

Can anybody help Martyn with a much needed reality check?

And while they are at it Jim can they explain the science of what goes up must come down

r.e the thermal blanket aka the Dark knight

Jim,
opps..sorry. I was not saying that the TOPS camera was on the tether UFO swarm. I am merely stating what the original intent of TOPS was. The tether break blew that away.

TOPS filters out stray light, among other things, & would give NASA ideal view of anything it sees. I have many of the TOPS downloads from after the break, when TOPS was used to view storms & the Air Glow. They are amazing. The videos show UFOs in the near field moving about & that is clearly after the background stars have disappeared. I have not checked today, but my You Tube channel must have some of the TOPS clips among the 300 plus. If not I will post some.

TOPS is not a UV/IR only camera. It uses filters & I have TOPS video showing NASA running through all the settings.

Anybody who thinks that the tether UFOs needed UV or IR to be seen is wrong. And NASA NEVER stated that their intent was to look at optical phenomena in UV or IR. I never ever claimed that any IR or UV was active on TOPS during the UFO swarm.

In fact I NEVER claimed that TOPS was the camera used to video the UFOs. You must have me confused with my friend David Sereda or Trevor James Constable!!

So..to conclude...the fact that no ATS members have responded to my posts today, or posted any reactions..except you, Jim Oberg ...shows that the debunking of the Tether Incident has indeed paid off. A job well done. NASA has nothing to worry about.

I'm the original source for all the NASA UFO video from STS-75 (among other missions) & you are the world's most famous & credible NASA UFO skeptic & a space expert/reporter to boot. Any one can join us..ask anything..

Yet no one bothers..even with both of us here!
Thus I do appreciate that you even pay attention, Jim. Somehow this thread no longer feels like social media... Look what you have done! Apathy in full bloom. You must be very happy. Its unbelievable how far this topic has fallen off the ATS radar. Scarey.

a reply to: buzzEmiller

How long after the tether broke on STS-75 did the 'swarm' show up?

Why so long, in your theory? And why then did they go away?

How do you interpret the crew's 70-mm photos of the tether and dots?

Have you ever even looked at them?

originally posted by: buzzEmiller
If the cause of the STS-46 break was orbital debris, then why was that not considered another possibility? Why would it not happen again? If the STS -75 tether had no voltage flowing as insisted at the press conference by NASA what else could it be?

How did you ever get the idea the tether broke on STS-46?

www.nasa.gov...

a reply to: buzzEmiller

Hi Buzz. I just wish to let you both know I'm paying attention and quite enjoying both sides of the argument.

That said, I'm not even close to both of you and your knowledge to even try to put in a statement. Simply I'm just enjoying the read of both arguments.

Kind regards to you and Jimbo.

Bally

originally posted by: bally001...

Kind regards to you and Jimbo.

Bally

Back atcha. It's popcorn and feet up on the ottoman time.....

I have a folder full of STS-75 data that has never been discussed by UFO enthusiasts on my home page www.jamesoberg.com/ufo.html

The links that prove the tether break was FOUR DAYS before the swarm showed up [UFO sites including Martyn's edit the videos together to give the false impression it was right after -- a few minutes, maybe an hour or two at most] are below:


Flight Day 4 Video Highlights [Tether Deploy]
HYPERLINK "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWU9SGJV4ZA" www.youtube.com...

Flight Day 5 Video Highlights [Tether Break/Flyaway]
HYPERLINK "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU9q1N9B-MM" www.youtube.com...

Flight Day 9 Video Highlights [Tether Fly-Under with debris]
HYPERLINK "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlIF0P9j0cM" www.youtube.com...

What difference does it make? It changes EVERYTHING. With the tether long gone the shuttle returned to normal orbital operations including routine water dumps. Shouldn't that have been mentioned -- that it was dumping water periodically between sequence 1 and sequence 2?


Also, sts75 ufo debunked videos...
www.youtube.com...
www.youtube.com...

a reply to: JimObergAKA Martyn Stubbs
MIA due to flu...

Thanks everyone... Jim, I am disappointed that you are tired of this debate & sent me to a science class !!
You have posted all these years saying that although we ufologists may be delusional re the tether video showing UFOs...you debate us because you have an interest in educating ATS members with the true science of NASA shuttle missions.

I no longer see it that way. I see you as a person who is too smart to not know what is really seen on the videos showing UFOs. And I know (& you know) it is not ice. Ice does not behave as the objects do...nor does it follow shuttles around for days etc In fact I am soon to post on my You Tube channel a water dump that shows the true nature of water & ice. It also shows the UFOs moving about the water dump, totally separate from the event.

The UFOs are also not orbital debris, as that is only tolerated if it is the size of a grain of sand. When it hits windows it causes 'pitting'..lots of video of that too. Larger debris is dangerous & a rock the size of a pebble, let alone a 'fist' would
cause serious, if not fatal damage.

You have the same access as I do to days, weeks, & months of shuttle flight video. You have direct contact with astronauts & you are just too intelligent & too intellectually curious not to know the truth about the UFOs! Your argument is a CON.

ATS members have displayed on this thread that they trust their instincts when they view the tether video & have thrown some amazing arguments back at the Skeptics who pop up. Amazing because ATS members do not have the access to the NASA archives that you do, Jim...yet their knowledge of science, space, & NASA plus COMMON SENSE, gives them equal power re: their points of view in this debate having value. Many of you are right on point.

Anyone who spends a lot of time studying these NASA videos will eventually SEE the truth..& many ATS members have done that.
I have the advantage of having access to literally YEARS of flight video to sort through. And it is all powerful The UFOs are everywhere. They are ever-present & I can see them on most downloads from the space station or the shuttle.

I have just this morning, found another UFO on the STS-75 tether mission. This one is appears on the launch video!! (I will post it soon as well)

Jim..the astronauts conversations are also full of clues.Sometimes it is 'whistle blowing' as on another STS-75 video where the astronaut 1st says the UFOs are ice & CAPCOM comments that it IS GOOD BECAUSE looks like the credits to Star Trek!! That is settled UNTIL he then says actually we are seeing 'living proof' of STARS...visible in the daytime..& we all know who has been up there??????? CRAZY TALK or whistle blowing?? (who has been up here??)
AND the whole time the video shows (I have already posted this one) UFOs moving about, rotating, tumbling & reflecting light...OVER THE EARTH!!

Other times the astronauts give clues. Take the famous spacewalk where a spacewalking astronaut is told that "there is an object right in front of you.." and he says.. "I don't know what you are talking about"...... the conversation is over until another voice says .."am I missing something"

The topic is again in play and we hear that the OBJECT is a "camera filter".........NOT TRUE..as the whole spacewalk sequence (from a single camera), when reviewed, shows no camera filter comes off of the 2 cameras on the ARM. In fact
the filter can not come off the housing anyway & later in the space walk the astronaut is seen waving to us or CAPCOM on both ARM cameras. They are 100% OK!!!

BUT HE DOES TELL US THE UFO'S SIZE!! The size of a camera 'filter'..or a FIST..or tennis ball. (as we see the UFO)
On the 'tether' video are small near field UFOs...Some others are about 6 to 8 feet in size. These are quite common on shuttle video. And of course we see larger ones.

The UFOs all rotate & twist as they move. But their propulsion is due to their internal WAVE motion.

Sunny ways my friends.

Why can't you admit the 'swarm' didn't show up until four days after the break?

originally posted by: buzzEmiller....

Jim..the astronauts conversations are also full of clues.Sometimes it is 'whistle blowing' as on another STS-75 video where the astronaut 1st says the UFOs are ice & CAPCOM comments that it IS GOOD BECAUSE looks like the credits to Star Trek!! That is settled UNTIL he then says actually we are seeing 'living proof' of STARS...visible in the daytime..& we all know who has been up there??????? CRAZY TALK or whistle blowing?? (who has been up here??)
AND the whole time the video shows (I have already posted this one) UFOs moving about, rotating, tumbling & reflecting light...OVER THE EARTH!!....

What's wrong with stars being visible in the daytime in space?

You aren't still claiming the astronauts were given the order to 'stay vector' and ignore a UFO nearby, are you? Is that the kind of 'astronaut conversation' you think is proof of a space UFO coverup?

The possibility of actual live or living space time organisms moving about in space or even consciousness being aware of its self in space is one i feel is plausible. Ice is one boring analogy, those that advocate it for every space UFO have clearly been at the fun-sponge school of negativity.

This galaxy alone that we inhabit is STILL full of unknowns and wonders, why would anyone try and pour scorn and negativity on life existing out side of human life and what we know of it.

This universe is teaming with life , if it is not then ask your self this question , what is the point of life that it is only to exist and be aware of its self by only one life force??

originally posted by: JimOberg

originally posted by: buzzEmiller....

Jim..the astronauts conversations are also full of clues.Sometimes it is 'whistle blowing' as on another STS-75 video where the astronaut 1st says the UFOs are ice & CAPCOM comments that it IS GOOD BECAUSE looks like the credits to Star Trek!! That is settled UNTIL he then says actually we are seeing 'living proof' of STARS...visible in the daytime..& we all know who has been up there??????? CRAZY TALK or whistle blowing?? (who has been up here??)
AND the whole time the video shows (I have already posted this one) UFOs moving about, rotating, tumbling & reflecting light...OVER THE EARTH!!....

What's wrong with stars being visible in the daytime in space?

You aren't still claiming the astronauts were given the order to 'stay vector' and ignore a UFO nearby, are you? Is that the kind of 'astronaut conversation' you think is proof of a space UFO coverup?

Double edged sword, would there be a space UFO cover up if indeed space unknowns were known not to be ice or debris??

How would that cover up manifest in the scientific community, would topics such as this thread have very skilled debunkers on it who would go to any lengths to up hold the status quo of the cover up??

Lets say this though , would you agree that a cover up would be justifiable?? Would you agree that humanity's right to be told of any truths about life outside of earth is a right that should never be compromised and anyone or any governments who advocates and orchestrates that compromise is committing a crime against humanity.

Like all truth it will one day surface and those who stood in its way could very well be held accountable by future generations. Life and the right to live it,share it and have knowledge of it is not only just for governments and religious institutions.

originally posted by: K-PAX-PROT
The possibility of actual live or living space time organisms moving about in space or even consciousness being aware of its self in space is one i feel is plausible. Ice is one boring analogy, those that advocate it for every space UFO have clearly been at the fun-sponge school of negativity.....

Who is it you fantasize thinks every strange space dot is ice? Or is this another deflective 'straw man' gimmick so beloved of the irrational arguers?