UFO snapped over Thames

AN academic was left shocked when she checked her tourist snaps of the London skyline - and spotted what looks like a flying saucer.

University Of Exeter academic Karolina-Slavka Mueller was in London for the weekend, when she took some shots with her camera phone of the sights.

But when she looked back at the night time pictures of Tower Bridge and the London Eye, she was shocked to see a UFO.

And experts are convinced it is the real thing.

Karolina said: "What's very strange about this is the fact that we didn't actually see this object in the sky while I was taking the photos.

A bridge too far ... UFO on right

A bridge too far ... UFO on right

"I only discovered it once I loaded the photos onto my computer as I didn't even look at the photos until then."

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Well its in the Sun, which initially lowers the credibility value.

The photos themselves look very very grainy, which further detracts from their credibility, particularly as they were taken on a mobile phone at night.
Another thing to bear in mind is that the object does not appear to be blurred. On a mobile phone, at night with no variation in shutter speed on a moving object, thats unusual.

The object itself is interesting.

Someone would need to do a thorough image analysis to see if there are any artifacts in the picture to prove/disprove the validity of the image.

Its very intriguing though.

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the problem with the 2 photos is...both photos show the angle of the "craft" to be the same...also the highlights on the edge of the "craft" are the same, even though these pictures were taken in differnet places....conclusion: something on the lens, fake, or problem with film or camera.

Good find

The only thing I can think of is that it could be a reflection in the window, because they are sitting inside the car and taking pictures.

But it looks genuine, looking forward to see the conclusion with this one, could be a classic.

Hmmm... looks suspiciously like a plastic film canister to me...



And it's a Sun article, which doesn't count for much

Hmmm... it looks suspiciously like the reflection from a dial on the dashboard, in particular a car with the dials in the centre for example a new mini? Notice the illumination from the rim inwards and then the orange dot in the centre which is common at the base of the needle as the light travels up the needle from the bottom in most new cars. I may be wrong...

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uuhhh... as an aside from this post...nice avatar, neformore...distracting, but i'm sure you are aware of that

Seems like a reflection on the inside of the window of the vehicle they are traveling in.

The object seems to be banking in the same direction in both shots which would be consistant with the same reflection in both shots.

I cant see that anyone would be driving around London at 3.50am with the window open at this time of year.

also the object seems to be lit from the same angle in both shots indicating a consistant light source.

I would say it is the reflection of a dashboard mounted speedometer reflecting on the windscreen of the vehicle they are traveling, as the front passenger seat in the UK is on the left and both shots being taken to the right would pick up dashboard lights.

Shame we dont get to see the third shot, but I would bet that was taken to the right also.

Regards S_G

Originally posted by xSMOKING_GUNx
I would say it is the reflection of a dashboard mounted speedometer reflecting on the windscreen of the vehicle they are traveling, as the front passenger seat in the UK is on the left and both shots being taken to the right would pick up dashboard lights.

Originally posted by fiftyfifty
Hmmm... it looks suspiciously like the reflection from a dial on the dashboard, in particular a car with the dials in the centre for example a new mini? Notice the illumination from the rim inwards and then the orange dot in the centre which is common at the base of the needle as the light travels up the needle from the bottom in most new cars. I may be wrong...

I concur. This is exactly that. A reflection of the dashboard mounted instrumentation. Why do people constantly hoax these things...

Originally posted by fiftyfifty
Hmmm... it looks suspiciously like the reflection from a dial on the dashboard, in particular a car with the dials in the centre for example a new mini? Notice the illumination from the rim inwards and then the orange dot in the centre which is common at the base of the needle as the light travels up the needle from the bottom in most new cars. I may be wrong...

Well done mate, case closed - it still suprises me how stupid the Sun thinks most people are.

"Experts"? LOL, effing liars.

I'm guessing its another attempt to attack the credibility of the UFO community with stupidity like this.

[edit on 28-2-2008 by dodgygeeza]

I totally agree with the other posters. It definitely looks like the reflection of the car's speedometer in the window.

The only thing I wonder is...if the speedometer is reflecting, wouldn't there be other reflections as well? From the stereo, or other gages? Perhaps not..I have no clue what type of vehicle she's driving. All I'm comparing to is the several "lit up" gages on the dash in my own truck.

The other thing is, and I'm a total moron when it comes to artistic things such as angles and reflections...but if this picture was taken out of the windshield, is that angle of reflection accurate to a gage on a dashboard? I need an expert on this one...I'm sitting here trying to draw out the angles on paper and now I know why my kids never ask me to help with their art homework

Michelle

Sorry guys I have to disagree with all of you... Although I dont think this is an actual UFO I also dont think its a reflected dial from a car dash either, its not transparent, it wouldn't line up that way and there are no other dash reflections.

I Also have a new mini cooper and the dial doesn't look like that, so no case closed in my opinion, in fact the theory this is a cars dash reflection is even more hard to swallow than a UFO, just look at the picture again and tell me this is a car's dashboard. As stated before the shades of the UFO are the same in both pictures... why is it ok for this to happen on a cars dash but not a UFO... the answer I think is photoshop cut and paste.

Yup, to me, before I read any posts, I went straight to the photos,(of course)
And the very, very, very first thing that seemed to scream at me was "there the same" as in, take a photo, pick it up, put it over there, take a photo!
maybe im wrong but, you know how it is with first impressions!(which really do count you know!)
Oh!, and then theres the "sun" factor!
"allways question the messenger"!!

Originally posted by Michelle129
The only thing I wonder is...if the speedometer is reflecting, wouldn't there be other reflections as well? From the stereo, or other gages? Perhaps not..I have no clue what type of vehicle she's driving.Michelle

It does, as fiftyfifty has already been mentioned look distinctly like the dial of the newer shape mini, there is only one dial on the dash board and it's face is directed upward as well as slightly towards the drivers eye.

Also you need to take into account the angle and curve of the windscreen.

Picture of Mini dashboard Link

Take a look at the mini speedometer it even has the double reflective surrounding edge similar to the object in the UFO image.

The stereo lights in the mini are a dark red and would not give a clear reflection on the windscreen as you can see in the same picture.


Regards S_G

Well, someone mentioned the Mini Cooper...


Image source
blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com...

Nothing of conclusive, of course ....

[edit on 28/2/2008 by internos]

Originally posted by II HAL II
Sorry guys I have to disagree with all of you... Although I dont think this is an actual UFO I also dont think its a reflected dial from a car dash either, its not transparent, it wouldn't line up that way and there are no other dash reflections.

I Also have a new mini cooper and the dial doesn't look like that, so no case closed in my opinion, in fact the theory this is a cars dash reflection is even more hard to swallow than a UFO, just look at the picture again and tell me this is a car's dashboard. As stated before the shades of the UFO are the same in both pictures... why is it ok for this to happen on a cars dash but not a UFO... the answer I think is photoshop cut and paste.

Not all mini dashboards are the same as the Cooper, some DO only have one dial.

I think internos has got it down wit his images. Well done mate

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Cheers internos, I was looking for a decent photo but you beatme to it. Looks very similar to me!

While it does certainly look like a mini speedo (yep - another ATS mini owner here - we should get a gallery going on BTS) I can't see how it would reflect onto the windscreen based on the positioning of the speedo on a mini - or any other car to be honest. They are near enough vertical.

I seriously don't think this is a UFO. For starters it would have been huge - it would have been ALL over the paper - not in the type of redtop that prints nonsense about my fellow Liverpool fans.

Not sure what it is - but I'm convinced it aint the real deal.

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The other thing is, and I'm a total moron when it comes to artistic things such as angles and reflections...but if this picture was taken out of the windshield, is that angle of reflection accurate to a gage on a dashboard?

I'm no expert (and i'm sure your not a moron lol) but wouldn't the angle of the reflection be affected by a) the angle of the windscreen, b) the position of the phone when the photo was taken and c) erm... ok just a and b...

[edit on 28-2-2008 by fiftyfifty]

Originally posted by more_serotonin_pls
While it does certainly look like a mini speedo (yep - another ATS mini owner here - we should get a gallery going on BTS) I can't see how it would reflect onto the windscreen based on the positioning of the speedo on a mini - or any other car to be honest. They are near enough vertical.

I have noticed the dials reflecting on the windscreen on many cars that I have been a passenger in, because of the curve of the outside edge of the windscreen and the left positioning of the passenger (photographer) in a british car I (think) this has to be the most obvious conclusion.

Because you have a mini yourself maybe you could reconstruct the shot from inside you own car tonight and then we will know one way or the other.

Also as nobody has mentioned this so far; the object would have been masive in the sky over a city that never sleeps, if it was real thousands of people would have seen it and the media would be all over it (not just the sun) ('online' at that).

Regards S_G