Middle Class May Be Subject To Food Rations, Warns UN

Originally posted by flice
Fear mongering? From UN through PP...
To be honest I haven't noticed any significant rise in food prices? Not 60% atleast...

yea well.....centerial interior, B.C, Canada,.....the foods prices at our Overwaity went up around 120% (+/-), and with the recent lay-off's at ALL mills in town, and 2 of those mill's shutting down.............people can't afford to eat.............

Originally posted by cav01c14
so question if there is a ration on food....what happens to all the mcdonalds, wendys, burger kings and other fast food companys????? do they just go outta business causing even more job loss and problems????

That's easy to answer cav...

Since they don't serve real food to begin with, there's no impact to their operations. That's why they're not impacted by beef recalls...

This should be a wake up call to all of us. We should have a plan to mitigate the risks of this happening. Basement gardens are not impossible if you can control the humidity, temperature and lighting. Believe it or not, that is not difficult.

Buy a breadmaker and make your own breads. This is where I'm at now, trying to learn that. I theorize you can make cheaper and more nutritious breads on your own.

Rationing food by the U.N.? Wasn't the French Revolution precipitated by the high cost of bread? Who will enforce the rationing? What about the upper class -- white collar folks? Are they going to have to bring in a bank statement to Kroger to show they aren't middle class and magically not be affected by rationing? as my wife would say: this is all very silly. it's crazy talk! The U.N. would have us eating that fungus those British researchers developed that's oh so nutritious if they could. (Kudos to the Brits on that one by the way).

Depopulation will soon start in force, grow a fruit tree while you can.

Originally posted by mybigunit
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

Guy I don't know what world your living in but it was costing me near $100 a pop to fill up my beamer. A gallon of milk is over $5.00 this affects me and I make a lot of money. If it doesn't affect you then you must be making the huge bucks. Like I said earlier I just sold my beamer for a yaris and my wifes Yukon Denali for a Toyota Highlander because gas is getting sick down here in florida along with everything else.

You in Alaska who pays a premium for everything to say your not affected is either false or you make way to much money.

A "07 BMW 750LI" and a Yukon and you can't afford food???????? Does your house match that car?

My Wife and I combined make about $100,000 per year which is about normal for two people of our age with our experience. I'd never buy a $70,000+ Luxury Car though, so food is not really an issue. Mortgage payments, Utility bills, Insurance and Property Taxes are what eats my pay up. Food for two of us is only $400 a month or so. Are BMW's really worth giving up that much for? No wonder you sold it. If your Yukon was new you were supporting cars that cost well over a $100,000.00!
I'd be broke too!

I think this article is about people who earn less than your car payments. Most of the worlds population earns less than the payments on a high end Beamer. Not the same discussion at all.

Our society is constantly based on growth, your buisness has to get bigger, we need more people, our cities have to expand. What ever happened to opening a store and making a good honest living. Today we bring in imigrants by the boat loads from countries who populations are exploding and to our where the are shrinking. I think this is a human instinct to lower population. It is a matter of time till we run out of things. We are running the world like everything is infinate. Hell buy more, throw it out, why waste time to fix it. Oh its a slow down. We are not making 10 billion this months so we will lay off 100,000 so now the downward spiral continues. We need to get back to basics, if it is urban farming to survive then hell do what we have to do. But many of us live in climated where we can only grow food for maybe 6 to 8 months. I can only eat so many canned cherries and jars of pickels. Hell i'll just make wine and then i will be to drunk to care about how little food i have.

This is called inflation

rising wages

rising energy bills

rising water bills

higher prices.....

Dont look for whats not there

the only problem at the moment is

wage increase doesn't match inflation.


a common denominator to look for is when mc donald raise the price of a standard meal.

they work it out that 1 hours work at minimum wage buys you a mc donalds meal with change!

reply to post by Blaine91555


My house is valued at around 500k but here is the issue. First off I traded all my vehicles in for cheaper cars with much better fuel mileage because I feel a major slowdown is coming. With that being said I made over 300k last year between my wife and I but I dont expect to make that much this year. I was paying $200 to $300 a week just in gas. I have 3 kids also so when I buy milk at $5.50 a pop i buy 3 to 4 gallons a week. On top of that health insurance car insurance insurance insurance insurance plus rising my lovely high taxes on real estate and taxes on what I earn which is 35% I struggle even making the money I do.

The this isnt about what I make i was responding to you saying that nothing has has gone up. The fact is everything is going up. Working class wages have gone no where in 15 years inflation adjusted and the situation this nation is in is not good. My main business I own I kinda rely on the midclass being strong but my investment company is not reliant on that. Im still cutting back because I think things are going to get ugly.

just a thought the euro is strengthning the pound (sterling is weakening)

maybe the us is helping britain weaken the pound as to force us into the euro

just a quick thought

reply to post by BlackOps719


I think its that I'm basing my view on what I've seen throughout my lifetime. When I was a child if you had what would be considered a small house now and one car in the driveway you were middle-class. Now you can be on food-stamps and own a house and a car. The standard of living is much higher than it was in my youth. People seem to think luxuries are necessities.

The best way we can help the people of countries like China and Mexico is to keep exposing them to Democracy and Capitalism until they make up their minds to leap into the modern age. Only they can take their government in hand and force change. The people have always had the real power. They just lack the will to use it.

Our core values are all out of whack these days. When things like luxury cars and huge houses become more important than food or genuine necessities it is not the governments fault. We do those things to ourselves. When people were falling all over themselves to buy houses they could not afford it was to their own ruin. Now people want to blame it on everyone but the real culprit who signed the Mortgage; themselves.

The UN just wants more money from us, so they appeal to our guilt as if it is our fault that the Chinese or Mexican Governments are such a mess. The UN is a farce to cover up deals made in back rooms. Any help they receive will go into someones pocket and not to help the hungry.

Wow this is a great thread good job OP.

I have suspected this coming for quite some time as well as the need to commercialize water in the free Nations.

We can always take our cues from third world nations as to the implementation of depopulation techniques coming down the pike. Can't they ever do anything new or innovative, original?

Looking back in the not so distant past you see dictators like Stalin, Hitler and the likes, and the one thing they seemed to enjoy most was watching as the people starved to death. Much cheaper than other techniques, and the joy of watching them work their butts off growing and farming, only to be told they could not take a single grain of wheat for themselves.

If history repeats its self, then this is a tried and true way of controlling the masses.

OK here goes, I should have made a thread about this or at least placed it in the Rant Forum, but, my ex Husband worked for a food distribution ware house about 5 years ago and shortly after he began working there a large and VERY connected group took control of the distribution centers nationwide and created a new system. (This is very much in short),Anyway, one night he was calling the pallet in to his crew boss and a voice came over the new ear piece and said "Hello FBI Oklahoma City, how may I direct your call?" OK...
He said "What?" He told her he was working in a food distribution warehouse and was on a private com system. (A voice recognition activated system btw) At this point they both made excuses to bow out of the mis happened call. It was a supposed private inside the center intercom system.
Noone could explain it and the bosses acted like he was crazy or making it up.
My ex is not into conspiracy or anything happening out of the norm. He is a real regular kind of man. I on the other hand jumped on the opportunity to check out just who this new company was and how they would be connected to the NWO and its ultimate plan of global domination. Without going much deeper down this rabbit hole of complexity, I will say the company was an interim program that came in to reorganize the entire food industry. Their name is Elite Logistics. Unfortunately my husband was injured on the job and is now suing the insurer of this company and it has been 5 years this spring.
They have spent untold dollars to prove my husband wrong, yet it has finally been proven inconclusively he was injured on the job. WE will see what happens in court soon. Now I have watched as the food industry has made quantum leaps in change since that time. There is a global plan enacted like it or not. The days of the family farm are over, the NAFTA super hwy, is just the beginning of the new plan for America and the foods that we eat. No longer are we able to grow, no those distribution warehouses are government regulated and in order to get contracts with them you have to go thru the Government and only the Government issues the contracts. NO regulation in south America and the Greedy few that will make untold riches will be the same that will starve their workers and watch as they become fewer and fewer with more deformity and disease. They will starve to grow death stores for our fattening. I could go on, I will, but not here, not now.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by BlackOps719

 

The best way we can help the people of countries like China and Mexico is to keep exposing them to Democracy and Capitalism until they make up their minds to leap into the modern age. Only they can take their government in hand and force change. The people have always had the real power. They just lack the will to use it.

The other possibility is that if your nation is forced into some sort of amnesty/citizenship deal over the undocumented Mexicans living in the USA, it would be fair for Mexico to cede Nuevo Leon, Tamaulipas, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Sonora, and Baja California to the U.S.A.

( / tongue-in-cheek )

reply to post by mybigunit


Imagine what you would have now if you had not gone for the expensive home and cars. I'm not judging as I made the same mistakes in my youth on my first career. As I got older I realized that increasing prices is the way the system works.

$300,000 in one year is an incredible amount of money for any family. Here in Anchorage, which is considered in the top tier of expensive places to live, a $500,000 home is still a huge home or it is in a very exclusive neighborhood. That would get you a very nice 5 bedroom house with all the amenities here. A normal 3 bedroom family home here runs about $300,000 and up here. I bought a 3,000 square foot older home for $185,000 four years ago and it is worth $285,000 today. New it would be worth a $100,000 more. Our mean income is only $10,000 per year higher than the national average.

We are running way off topic here. Mostly my fault.

reply to post by antar


I'm from Farming and Ranching families and you are right. Out of the millions of acres my Parents large families owned; not one acre is left. Some got out early and retired well off and those who waited went broke. It is time people learned to grow food again. I'm lucky because I learned to grow from seed as a child and I know how to hunt and care for livestock. I feel for the Farmers still hanging in there on the small incomes they earn. The money does not go into the growers pockets.

Here is an article in the BBC with an interview of the head of the World Food Program.

It's quite interesting, and it talks about food riots etc. It might be worth reading.

The director of the UN's World Food Programme has said it is considering plans to ration food aid because of rising prices and a shortage of funds.

Josette Sheeran told the BBC that the WFP needed increased contributions from donors to make sure it could meet the needs of those who already rely on it.

She said it also faced growing demands from countries like Afghanistan, where people were now unable to afford food.

Food prices rose 40% last year because of rising demand and other factors.

source

Yesterday, I ran over one block to a corner gas station with a little store by my house. I paid $6.98 for a gallon of milk. I though Whoa, WTH.

The article states that in some countries staple food prices have increased over 80%

What could it hurt to stock up a little on food?

[edit on 25-2-2008 by seawolf197]

Time to make my list for Costco and a few other places.
1.) Coffee... Life simply isn't worth living without good coffee.
2.) Wine.... Ditto from above
3.) Canned goods, lots and lots of canned goods.
4.) Rice and beans
5.) fill it in as you see fit.

reply to post by seawolf197


I think it is another way to 'PUMP' up the economy. Scare tactics come out 'Every" single month. Right at the first when large numbers of people get their subsidies and pensions not to mention welfare.

I smell socialization at work. If you are all for this movement then vote Democratic.

reply to post by Blaine91555


I agree with you 100%. People in this country have gotten so caught up in trying to one up the guy down the street by buying ridiculously over priced crap that they don't need. Sure Bob may seem to have it together, $350,000 home with a Lexus and a BMW in the driveway. But let me tell you, these people are over extended to the 10th degree.

I work in the mortgage business, and I can tell you first hand that people are swimming in debt up to their eyeballs. A lot of them have been keeping up the image of having money by using their over valued homes as an ATM machine. Now the values are dropping, wages are declining, and the creditors are not interested in your sob story, they expect payments each month on time wheather you can afford them or not.

I have a house payment, a small auto payment and basic utility and living costs each month and that is it. I saw this monsoon coming a few years back and got rid of all the credit cards and any unsecured or revolving debt that I had. These people who have $30K + in credit card debt have no idea what kind of mess they are actually in. And the biggest wave of financial stress is yet to hit. The mortgage meltdown has just begun, and soon the credit card defaults and auto loan repos will soar through the roof.

Brace yourselves folks and mark my words, it is about to get a lot worse. Hopefully you are implementing some sort of plan as to how you will feed and protect yourself when this pyramid scam that we call an economy finally does implode. And anyone entertaining thoughts of filing a chapter 7 and wiping the slate clean had better think again. The ability to file a full chapter 7 as you know it is quickly becoming a thing of the past. Yes indeed America, you will be held accountable for your debts both financially as well as criminally.

On the bright side, I know approximately 250 differing variations for preparing Top Ramen... and they are all pretty good..lol

reply to post by BlackOps719


What you say makes perfect sense. I too was warned many years ago to downsize any and all debt, I have made good progress but am still not clean. I use debit cards now instead of credit, and have my stuff down to a dull roar. I am very interested in the mortgage industry in particular. U2U me some time and lets talk.
Can you see this being in direct line with the crash of the economy and if so how? Food Scarcity (bs) verses Food Rationing (bs) verses crash of economy, loss of home and freedoms... Do tell, what you know or think you know why this is related. Ty.

[edit on 2/25/2008 by Digital Deviance]