How many you believe that 9/11 was an inside job?of

I'm about 90% convinced that 911 was an inside job. Not going to imply any details on why here but I will say this: HOW can -ANYONE- watch building 7 collapse and not questions the whole thing?
If something is wrong with building 7 then there has to be something wrong with ALL of it. A simple child can understand this very simple fact.

Building 7 is the crux of the matter for me and until that's proven the rest is a bunch of bilge and always will be.

Im 99.9% convienced that 9/11 was an "Inside Job".
With the insider trading,the collapse of WTC 7,and the lack and video proof of what hit the Pentagon,it's extrmely hard for me not to question the events of 9/11.
Along with the fact that the Operation Northwoods documents do exist.
I do not claim to have any idea of who was "inside" to aid this event happening.
There are many more questions than answers.
And seeing as there seems to be no rush to answer them,I have no reason to believe the official story.

Originally posted by CaptnCrunch

Okay, seriously, is everybody who believes in this 9-11 conspiracy stuff like this? Please tell me that some of you are normal. Because I am completely out of my element if there are people here who actually read that "X" paragraph and went, "yeah!" ("And he's exxxxxtra intense. And he watches XXX movies. And he thinks he's exxxxellent.")

If I really were a disinformation "agent" or whatever I supposedly am, would I not have known that by saying I believe in aliens, I discredit myself to those who believe in a Mason/9-11 conspiracy? You make it sound like it's so obvious. Well then I wouldn't have been stupid enough to say it! Could it be that, oh I don't know, the reason I'm attacking your theory is because it has no merit whatsoever?? Hmm, maybe.

What I think is funny is that the people who believe in this stuff tell others to "open their minds" and "question" everything. Yet when anybody "questions" their side, it means they're simple-minded and not open enough. Doesn't that go against everything you stand for?

But for the people who actually believe this stuff and put up a halfway intelligent argument for it, please tell me this guy is a kook and I'm not crazy.

So notice when someone pointed out Loose Change being a great documentary, Captn Crunch says that the movie is "full of lies." For those of you who have seen the movie and researched its claims for yourself, you know that it is NOT "full of lies." This commission report is full of lies. So Captn Crunch apparently has discerned that Loose Change is full of lies, but he's very open to aliens and says that's what he usually posts about. Interesting discernment from this Mason, don't you think? He believes in aliens but thinks Loose Change is full of lies.

Crop Circles CC= 33. The Roswell crash just happened to be at 33.33 degrees latitude, the Masonic number. It also just happened to be in 1947, the same year the NWO set up the CIA, and the NSA with NAZI project paperclip rocket scientists. Later NASA was first directed by Nazi Werner von Braun. Jordan Maxwell has pointed out the etymology, AnnuNAKI, AzkeNAZI, NAZI, NASA, NSA... the whole thing is an occult mystery to make you think it MUST be real! There must really be aliens says your right-brain!

Read the words of Adam Weishaupt, the founder of the Illuminati:

“Of all the means I know to lead men, the most effectual is a concealed mystery. The hankering of the mind is irresistible; and if once a man has taken it into his head that there is a mystery in a thing, it is impossible to get it out, either by argument or experience. And then, we can so change notions by merely changing a word. What more contemptible than fanaticism; but call it enthusiasm; then add the little word noble, and you may lead him over the world."

This has been a 60 year Psy-Op in the making and the exposers of the NWO are meant to be the unwilling propagators of the "alien conspiracy" simultaneously. Get it? ATS is complicit in this as well as David Icke and many others parroting the reptilian/alien line. As everyone always says, don't believe me, check out this "possibility" for yourselves. We are God's children and they want to place "creator alien God middle-men" between us and the divine. 2012 will be the NWO fake invasion with real UFOs... watch the mainstream media start to cover stories about UFOs and Reptiles...

I personally do not believe this theory. I have always thought that flight 93 was shot down to avoid the 4th plane to be used as a weapon, and the heroe stories that came from that flight were an attempt to never allow the public to know they sacrificied all on that plane so others would not die.

I would also like to point out that just like today, we have school buses and numerous radios missing, thousands of radios have been stolen from school buses. Tankers are missing. Stock yards of explosives are missing. These are among some of the items that I think are adding up to our next campaign by terrorists, they ( al quaida) have been given elite permission to kill up to 1 million americans now, they were also given permission to do the 9-11 attacks, it took them quite some time. They may very well have been able to line all these buildings, save the Pentagon, with many explosive devices and materials. Just like they are preparing something right now, this very minute. Given that 9-11 was their 2nd attempt to destroy what they believed to be an ultimate symbol of america, I can only imagine what the next target will be. If there is proof of thermites, proof of explosions that we didn't hear about, details that just didn't go out to the public, it does not imply that our government committed the act, it only implies that more work went into securing the destruction of these buildings than just a plane hitting them.

If the terrorists managed to pull of such an attack at that level on 9/11 than why haven't they attacked US again after 9/11?

Masterminds who pulled off 9/11 can still breach security if they wanted to.Even if the security is too tight,they can still send a van/car full of explosives to take out potential targets.



[edit on 27-2-2008 by Attari]

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I'd guess that it's due to increased security measures and that most potential terrorists are fighting elsewhere, (Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, China, Pakistan, Indonesia etc) or they are in Britain.

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I'd guess that it's due to increased security measures and that most potential terrorists are fighting elsewhere, (Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya, China, Pakistan, Indonesia etc) or they are in Britain.

Thats the problem you see! Terrorists who pulled off such a huge attack on 9/11,you really think those same masterminds can't penetrate into US and carry out an attack (with hightened security)? If 9/11 was a walk in the park for them than a truck loaded with dynamite/gas cylinders in US should be a piece of cake.

If i was a terrorist leader,i would use the 'most potential' ones to hit the west and using the non-masterminds brainwashed to fight the 'invading forces'.
It Would make more sense from a terrorist point of view right?

The terrorists will cause more damage by attacking on the western soil than using producing IEDs to blow the odd tank up in the dessert.

When 9/11 first happened, when I first heard the news,before I had even seen the tv, my first reply to the person informing me was..."They did it to themselves" honestly that was my first thought and words. The second thought and words were "this can't be true.....your talking about world war three"
Since that day, it has become very clear to me, that the whole sad story was meticulesly planned, and not by "arabs"


.......the skribe

History shows a pattern of grand deception of the masses in regards to catalyzing events on the National or World stage. I have no doubt, 9/11 was absolutely an inside job. I believe it was planned (shortly after the failure of the FBI controlled '93 WTC bombing) and implemented by elite elements of U.S. and other allied Western nations' power structures (which are generally not elected government officials but rather the financial/corporate/military traitors at the top of those organizational pyramids). People can (and should) argue and demand facts about the who,why,what,where,and how. We must realize, however, that the amount of Disinfo puked out on the Net about these crimes, and the ability of the continuing cover-up operation to obscure and confuse those who seek the truth, is truly massive. The perps of this false-flag attack are not stupid, but I still hold out the hope that one day all will be revealed (all it will take is one or two key people involved to tell their story). I'm looking at who has benefited from the so-called "War on Terror", and it is not Arabs, nor 'fanatical muslim extremists'.

Just curious...

Were
1980 bombing at Statue Liberty
Pan Am Flight 830
US Embassy in Beirut
The barracks in Beirut
Yu Kikumura
US Duty Train in Germany
Mir Aimal Kansi
1st WTC bombing
NYC landmark bomb plot
Khobar Towers bombing
Rashid Baz
Karachi incident
Ali Abu Kamal
US Embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya
Millenium plot - including the USS The Sullivans
USS Cole
Project Bojinka
etc.
also inside jobs??

[edit on 27-2-2008 by ThatsJustWeird]

Originally posted by ThatsJustWeird
Just curious...

Were
1980 bombing at Statue Liberty
Pan Am Flight 830
US Embassy in Beirut
The barracks in Beirut
Yu Kikumura
US Duty Train in Germany
Mir Aimal Kansi
1st WTC bombing
NYC landmark bomb plot
Khobar Towers bombing
Rashid Baz
Karachi incident
Ali Abu Kamal
US Embassy bombings in Tanzania and Kenya
Millenium plot - including the USS The Sullivans
USS Cole
Project Bojinka
etc.
also inside jobs??

You forgot (conspiracies/inside jobs/the whole lot):
The JFK assassination
Operation Northwoods
Operation Iraqi Freedom
Area 51
Oklahoma City bombing
The NWO/PNAC
The Mothman in West Virginia
Pearl Harbor
Native American Assimilation
Leonard Peltier
The 2000 Florida vote recounts

Just to name a few not covered...

[edit on 27-2-2008 by OMW24]

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and don't forget the sesame street files.
The great muppet caper
Burt & Ernie -vs- Alabama courts

Just to name a few more

Look at the Mason's detracting once again. The two people with Masonic Eagles for avatars are asking if every bombing ever committed was an inside job. No, Masons, we're not simpletons that think everything is a conspiracy... most of those were real acts of terrorism. Yes there are real terrorists, but there are also real conspiracies too.

Do your own research folks, the 93 WTC, the 95 OKC, 9/11, Madrid, and 7/7 were all inside jobs. And Masons, most of the ones you posted were not. Anyway folks, keep your eyes peeled and watch as the Eagles continue to derail.

“Indeed, it almost seems to be a requirement or admission into public discourse to announce that one rejects conspiracy theories. What is the logic behind this thinking? It cannot be that we literally reject the very idea that conspiracies occur. We all accept conspiracy theories of all sorts. We accept a conspiracy theory whenever we believe that two or more people have conspired in secret to achieve some goal, such as to rob a bank, defraud customers, or fix prices … It is false to suggest that those who allege that the attacks occurred because of official complicity are ‘conspiracy theorists’ while those who accept the official account are not. People differ on this issue merely in terms of which conspiracy theory they hold to be true, or at least most probable. According to the official account, the attacks of 9/11 occurred because of a conspiracy among Muslims, with Osama bin Laden being the chief conspirator. Revisionists reject that theory, at least as a sufficient account of what happened, maintaining that the attacks cannot be satisfactorily explained without postulating conspiracy by officials of the US government, at least in allowing the attacks to succeed. The choice, accordingly, is simply between (some version of) the received conspiracy theory and (some version of) the revisionist conspiracy theory.” -David Icke, Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center

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I have studied Physics (failed), so it was easy for me to see the official story was a lie after I watched Loose Change for the first time.

No one with any knowledge of physics could believe the official story.

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If you think I'm a mason, you're one paranoid person. I don't even do brick work Seriously I'm not a mason and it's a little disturbing that you see masons everywhere. Someone disagrees with you and automatically you classify them as a conspirator? Is it that you are a disinfo agent trying to throw everyone else off from your scent? See we can do silly things like this all day. Why not try to be a little less accusatory, especially when you have zero evidence to support your accusation, and simply post factual information?

In short, it's much easier to prove your point with a fact then it is with an accusation.

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This one's easy. WTC 7 housed many many important SEC, FBI, and CIA files on all the ongoing investigations into corporate fraud a la Enron, Worldcom, etc etc. Its collapse turned all that evidence into dust.

Larry Siverstein, owner and beneficiary of the recently renewed Billion dollar insurance policy on WTC 1 and 2, was caught and heard ON TAPE saying the words "Maybe we should "pull it"" (construction slang for start the demolition process) referring to WTC 7. Shortly after that, it fell. It was done later in the day to detract from all the other chaos that was going on, and the feeling they could just lump the reason for that one in with the other insane "jet fuel" story.

Anybody with a modicum of knowledge of the laws of physics knows that buildings cannot and will not collapse at near free-fall speed without being dynamited. It's a physical impossibility. End of story.

And if WTC 7 was an inside job, ergo it all was. You can SEE the explosions going off on the lower levels of WTC 1 and 2 as the towers are collapsing. Watch Loose Change, if you are on the fence now you won't be for much longer.

Original post was looking to see how many believe it was an inside job.


Count me in as a believer.

From the day it happened it seemed wrong the way the buildings fell, then the fact that the investigation of the material was guarded. The largest crime scene in our history was not even half heartedly investigated.

The sad part is that the truth will never be spoken or written by the powers that be in this land, all we can get is smoke and mirrors.

The Bush family has reeked havoc in the United States starting with Prescott, Cheney and Kissinger have been right there along with Bush Senior for what 30+ years? Our government was involved in many aspects concerning what occurred before, during, and after 9/11, just as they were before, during, and after Pearl Harbor and the American War (you may know this as the Vietnam War), and the list goes on, and on, and on, and on. What were are taught publicly is a lie and shame.

EJECTED STEEL BEAMS WEIGHING SEVERAL TONS

I will hang up my truther hat as soon as someone can adequately explain how heavy steel beams weighing serveral tons are upward & horizontally ejected without explosives. They are supposed to fall, not go airborne.

If NIST can't explain it, neither can any OCTers (official conspiracy theorizers like the FBI, NIST, CIA, ISI..).

[edit on 29-2-2008 by nikolat23]