Military says missile hit spy satellite

*tin-foil hat firmly in place*

I'm curious.... maybe someone can help answer a few questions for me on this one.

If we had not destroyed the satellite, when would it have been scheduled for re-entry?

Could this particular satellite be seen by some means from the ground?

Wouldn't saying you hit the thing be perfect cover for minimizing those who might go looking for it once it came out of the sky?

Originally posted by loam
*tin-foil hat firmly in place*

If we had not destroyed the satellite, when would it have been scheduled for re-entry?

Could this particular satellite be seen by some means from the ground?

Wouldn't saying you hit the thing be perfect cover for minimizing those who might go looking for it once it came out of the sky?

By my calculations today after the strike-intercept... Feb 26th. Some say the first week of March.

Seen from the ground. Yup, been there done that. One view last night for me. Others have seen it and if NASA can make STS look large at 80miles distance... you can bet the Russkies and Chinese have been shootin' pics from the ground and maybe "upstairs" at comparable or better resolution than a civilian US agency.

Yup, perfect cover for recovery... besides the "safety" message which won't hurt the cover story. Safety my left-foot. I can't wait to visit University Ave. this week. It's fun to hassle CIA meat-clone-droids. They hassle us... so, "Do A Yank A Favour Today!" I'm thinkin, "Good-shootin' Tex" or maybe "Pa" and blow the smoke from the barrel of a finger. LOL. Idiots. I hope it falls on Langley and damages their dishes.

Cheers,

Vic

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Well, I'll let you know if it goes zipping thru here at 5:58 pm est tonight. I have my approach and departure numbers and such, so at least I know where to look. Wish I could get n2yo to load up for me so I can see alt. and speed...if it's not just running the old projections, and they just haven't taken it all down yet.
Like you, I've been watching for some kind of confirmation other than what the msm here is reporting.

Originally posted by althea041724
Like you, I've been watching for some kind of confirmation other than what the msm here is reporting.

Well, Dulcimer's photo is the best confirmation available all over the net and guess what, it's right here in this thread!

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I'd need more information to "trust" the data provided. That "ring" could be anything... lotsa stuff seen in the Sask skies by certain people. There was a time I'd have just accepted the data as true. Days long since gone...

Vic

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It's not old data and they have started calling it "USA193 Debris" and they claim it is realtime.



I have a couple of email that would tend to support this...

Cheers,

Vic

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Just thought I'd put a link to that page for others.

Originally posted by loam
*tin-foil hat firmly in place*

If we had not destroyed the satellite, when would it have been scheduled for re-entry?

reply by v kaminski to loam;

By my calculations today after the strike-intercept... Feb 26th. Some say the first week of March.

the one news link i could get at 5AM was by Reuters,

they report that the fuel tank was hit as planned, a field of football sized debris is expected to burn up in falls for the next couple weeks...

but the major portion of the spy satellite is still orbiting and estimates are that the useless bus size body can stay orbiting for ~ 40 more days !

i reckon the 'blast' recorded is the (frozen?) contents of that fuel tank.
but i also reckon that the still massive body, minus some fuel tank shrapnel, is still in one clump and should decay its orbit like Sky-Lab did


ADD: that 40 day hypothetical window could include a 'Easter' re-entry spectacular (March 23rd)



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Good one. Thanx. The size of the sat? It would fit in this:

(photo from global security.org)

10 foot diameter by about 15 or 16 foot long all "folded" up and secured for launch (likely significantly smaller). Not that big a target and at 5000lbs (as claimed by US military "spokes-people") not "That" massive.

Headed South East over China and Japan at the moment.

Vic

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Direct link to intercept video provided by the Pentagon:

Intercept video

Edit: I have checked the Lat/Long shown on the video, and it corresponds to where they say they were:

Chase plane position

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nice find

Just a wonderful accomplishment for the US Navy! Modifications were made and the missile hit perfectly by all indications. Makes me proud!!!

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Cool! Thanx. Russkies are lookin' at it now. For a non-explosive intercept... it has a great deal of explosion attendant for a sat approx 10 by 15 feet. It looks like an intercept of something. The break in the vid... after launch... hmmm. For 60mil you'd think they'd have better... Wink.

Cheers and thanx ,

Vic

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Nice hit. It does raise oxygen questions as to the viability of visible explosions in space.

Here's a link for those who may wish to explore the orbital data... it's actually a bit simplified in this version (makes some assumptions for the sake of simplicity) but close enough to get an idea of what's what and when it "could" fall. Most folks won't take the time to run the numbers... exploration.grc.nasa.gov... Whatever. LOL.

Cheers,

Vic

I seen a shooting star last night when I was outside watching the lunar eclipse with my brother.
Maybe it was a piece of debris?

Pretty cool that they actually hit it.
What would have happend to the missle if they missed?
Didn't China want to shoot one of their satellites down a while ago?
Nice thread.

Nothing but a retaliation against China's shooting down of one of their satellites earlier!

Looks like we are staring at a new arms race...

Is there a video of the hit? If not then why not?

Thats interesting the FL local news here, said they HAD to shoot down this satellite, which was one of our own, because it was "defective, or faulty, and to eliminate any chance of it landing on a building and killing people, they decided the best way would be to blow it up.

Not ONE word about it being a spy satellite.

I also remember hearing them say they couldn't let it just burn up in the atmosphere because of the amount of fuel it was carrying. Now I'm no expert, but do satellites even carry fuel, and if so, isn't it very minimal amounts?

Either way the news kept the story shown only once every 2 hours, and only would do a quick 30 second piece on it.

Very shady business. But that's the MSM for ya.

Originally posted by mattifikation
So... if an Aegis can hit that, it could conceivably hit any missile?

IF they can hit that, which they did, they can pretty much hit anything missile wise. A missile has a heat signature and travels less than half the speed of that sat.

But, there is an alternative, which we have already developed and will soon find its way on our Destroyers. A tungsten or depleted uranium rod fired from a railgun would be much more difficult to stop. Place a warhead on it and you have something that may be able make it pass part of the Theater Missile Defense network.

There's a counter for it too though, at a lower altitude it could be intercepted by a Directed Energy Weapon like THEL, which can vaporize 155mm copperhead rounds fired from the M-109 Paladin.