Holocaust Reparations Bill could cost Americans 200 Billion Dollars

reply to post by hinky


It's also the name of the Jehova's Witness website, and is used by... Yeesh, I can't count how many other blogs, websites, etc. It's a catchy phrase.

Looking at the "wakeupfromyourslumber.com" site, yes, I do see that on this site, "Jew," "Zionist," and "Israel" are all synonymous. I would characterize them as being at the best, carelessly bigoted.

The act in question, however, is a reality. Unfortunately my legalese is a little rusty.

[edit on 17-2-2008 by TheWalkingFox]

It doesn't matter from where the bill is posted on, the truth is that is real the sponsor is a Born Cuban Sponsored by Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R) (FL-18)

www.opencongress.org...

Interesting that you do not see much about this issues in the media that actually will affect tax payers in this nation and not permission is needed.

reply to post by marg6043


Thanks marg (and walking fox) for finding it on another source.

This definitely gives credibility to the issue at hand.

I'm confused though.

Why would a Cuban native careabout holocaust survivors?

What's his motive? Did AIPAC pay him off?

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I have not clue from where she got this bill but she does have 40 cosponsors, in this site you can read the names of all of them.

www.fantasycongress.com...

reply to post by DimensionalDetective



My first question:

Why is it the US's job? We didn't do the holocaust. Let Germany pay for it.

Second:

What about the holocaust that the US actually DID do? The American Indians. Where's their money?

I'm not anti-semitic but jeez. Why us?

Originally posted by biggie smalls
Why would a Cuban native careabout holocaust survivors?

Look into ethnic Cuban Immigration circa early 1900's, alot of answers there to that question.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
I'd be fine with the corporations that collaborated with the Nazis paying for their part of it. But otherwise, yes, this does look like just another AIPAC guilt-for-money exchange.

You mean people like Prescott Bush? GW's grandfather. Let them freekin pay for it.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
I'm confused though.

Why would a Cuban native careabout holocaust survivors?

What's his motive? Did AIPAC pay him off?

[edit on 2/17/2008 by biggie smalls]

It's Florida. It's like the Jewish American version of Eastbourne in the UK. Some parts of Florida have very large and wealthy Jewish retiree populations. So, there's all that campaign money to be had for pandering to the chosen ones Or is that just my cynical side shining through again?

Here is a link to the actual Bill.
Holocaust Insurance Accountability Act of 2007 (Introduced in House)

The Bill was created: To require disclosure of Holocaust -era policies by insurers and establish a federal cause of action for claims arising out of a covered policy.

I cannot find any information in this bill that state that US tax payers are going to pay any of this money. From reading the Bill it seems the bill will allow Holocaust victims and their families to file claims against insurance companies that never paid up and it will then allow the US government to go after these insurance companies in Federal Court to get compensation.


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reply to post by zerotime


Actually it does.

The link you posted doesn't work. You have to type in "Holocaust" anyway to find it.

Here's an exert that mentions the federal government will pay:

(26) Holocaust victims and their families should be able to recover claims arising from Holocaust era insurance policies and the Federal Government should be able to recover for the unjust enrichment of insurers in Federal court when they consider it necessary to seek redress through the judicial system.
(27) Under the circumstances faced by Holocaust victims and their families, the courts of the United States should be open to Holocaust victims and their families for a reasonable number of years after enactment of this Act, without regard to any other statutes of limitation.

"The federal government should be able to recover for the unjust enrichment of ensurers."

In laymans, we're going to reimburse you with taxpayer money no matter what the people think.

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Originally posted by biggie smalls
The link you posted doesn't work. You have to type in "Holocaust" anyway to find it.

Here's an exert that mentions the federal government will pay:

"The federal government should be able to recover for the unjust enrichment of ensurers."

In laymans, we're going to reimburse you with taxpayer money no matter what the people think.

I fixed the link to a site posting the Bill.

You are not quoting the entire line. You are stopping half way through the sentence for some reason. The entire line says the following:

Holocaust victims and their families should be able to recover claims arising from Holocaust era insurance policies and the Federal Government should be able to recover for the unjust enrichment of insurers in Federal court when they consider it necessary to seek redress through the judicial system.

Meaning that the government will take insurance companies to court when they will not pay. Not that the government will pay for the claims using tax money.





[edit on 17-2-2008 by zerotime]

Originally posted by zerotime
I cannot find any information in this bill that state that US tax payers are going to pay any of this money. From reading the Bill it seems the bill will allow Holocaust victims and their families to file claims against insurance companies that never paid up and it will then allow the US government to go after these insurance companies in Federal Court to get compensation.

Who pays the insurance companies? Some way, some how, it still trickles down to us footing the bill.

Also, who pays the government for court costs?

Us.

[edit on 2/17/2008 by Griff]

reply to post by biggie smalls


One of the MOST ridiculous parts about this bill, is the fact that most holocaust survivors are dead.

Let's pretend the last person from the holocaust was born in a concentration camp (didn't happen, but its a theoretical situation so just go with it).

This person would be 67 or 68 years old as they would have been freed in 1947 AT THE LATEST.

The average person in the concentration camp would have been over 12 years old.

These people are all in their seventies or above.

Not only are they getting social security if they're Americans, but chances are they're also receiving pensions.

On top of that, there are countless Jewish organizations that give money every year to holocaust survivors.

Why should we, the tax paying American public who had no hand in the holocaust, have to pay for grandparents?

I don't see the logic behind this.

They are mostly dead.

So who in reality are we paying?

Is this bill going into the pocket of Israel-US dual citizens who are much younger than the survivors?

Are we lining the pockets of AIPAC policy holders and politicians?

I smell a dirty filthy rat.

I'm calling bull#!

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reply to post by zerotime


The link you posted is different than the Thomas.House.gov version.

The bill has changed it since your link was updated.

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Originally posted by Griff
Who pays the insurance companies? Some way, some how, it still trickles down to us footing the bill.

Also, who pays the government for court costs?

Us.

I fail to understand why any of this matters. Are you saying that despite the fact that these were real policies that people paid for and that the families never received the benefit that these families should still not get the compensation that they were rightfully due?

As with any lawsuit the loser will pay for the court costs as well.

Originally posted by biggie smalls
The link you posted is different than the Thomas.House.gov version.
The bill has changed it since your link was updated.

Does not appear to be any different. The section is the same as you posted a couple links above. Here is a cut and past from the thomas.loc.gov... website. Cannot post a direct link to the Bill on this website because of how their search engine works but anyone can visit the main site and do a search for Bill: The Holocaust Insurance Accountability Act of 2007

(26) Holocaust victims and their families should be able to recover claims arising from Holocaust era insurance policies and the Federal Government should be able to recover for the unjust enrichment of insurers in Federal court when they consider it necessary to seek redress through the judicial system.

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Let me ask a question at large here. If it came to light that there was an insurance rip-off that had went on for 6 decades, and those well fed fat boys in the insurance business, with their big political lobby in D.C. were fighting to keep from paying, how many of you would be screaming to send these stealing swine to the pen for life?

But once it turns out that it was Jews, it's OK? And the really funny part of this is that a lot of these insurance companies are run by Jewish Americans.

Personally, I've been screwed by insurance companies in the past. I also know of some Katrina victims that don't much care for their ways either. Seeing them having to fork over some of their profits sounds pretty good.

And until we the people stop these obscene lobby groups, we'll keep on getting ripped off by big business. The truth is, the insurance companies saw a chance to welch on payments, and grabbed that chance, most likely with the complete and utter support of a lot of politicians of that day, with a few bribes and kickbacks to seal the swindle.

And now some of you dislike Jews to the point that you would rather see a bloated wealthy group like the world banking and insurance cartels get by with an outright theft, than to see a Jew get what his father or uncle paid for?

What's wrong with standing up for what's right, no matter who is right and who is wrong?

reply to post by NGC2736


Exactly, I wonder if the Katrina people victimized by the insurance companies had been compensated and also has been any bills to support their claims under law.

Like the one for the Holocaust survivors.

BTW the reason that the Congresswoman Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, the Ranking Republican on the Foreign Affairs Committee.

Also many of the companies involved was about 60 years ago has either gone our of business or they are in foreign nations, is going to cost a lot of money to get this information.

So still somebody is footing the bill.



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reply to post by marg6043


They need to organize, and we need to support them. Those who got screwed in Katrina deserve to be treated fairly. But we have to get the political hacks out of D.C.

Sure, the Jews have gotten the ball rolling. Don't blame them for working harder at it, and twisting more arms. We ought to be doing the exact same thing over EVERY case where fraud and corruption allow these big boys to win at the expense of the rest of us.

reply to post by NGC2736


A while back I did a thread call who is lobbying for the American people guess what my friend nobody is because the people that is supposed to be working for us is been payed better by other private interest.

Unfortunately the Jewish lobbyist groups are very wealthy and have more results that we the regular people in this nation.

reply to post by marg6043


True enough. But if we lazy Americans would really organize, and read, and attend rallies, and VOTE like we had something besides mush for brains, then we too could change things. As it is, we mostly complain about what someone else is succeeding at doing that we don't have the gumption to do ourselves.