Life on the other side of the fence

reply to post by atlasastro


Of course its a puzzle so is life no matter how easy its made, you think I have all of life figured out if I did I would know everything that greys know but I don't, see Im not perfect, no one is. Now how about you help your friend out instead of taking shots at me.

It really wasn't that hard for me to see the information in the link and tie it up to what I have been going through. If we were to tell you how to work out the proof then you would not believe it as you need to work it out yourself to cross a barrier of belief. The aliens can do this for you by face to face contact but you need to be emiting the right signals. How to do this is yet again down to belief and meditation to send out stronger signals.

We are more than just flesh and blood, we are connected to Earth , Space , The spirit world. Our bodies are just vehicles to take us to the next life, We have been brainwashed by todays needs and lets just say "We forgot what we can actualy do"

Once you see beyond our everyday life we open up a new door "Trust me I know"

Drakiir I feel like I also have some strong link with you so I know the feeling you are getting. Kind of like a have met you before so to speak and have automatic trust in you.

As any of the None Believers even tried to raise there frequencies or opened there mind. There are plenty of ways to do this and there have been links to HRC so all the information is here to give this a shot. Just curious becasue there doubting what we through opinion but have they even attempted to be contacted.

Is it becasue they just refues to believe it full stop or they just think "Nah that can not happen"

Originally posted by Drakiir


I wouldn't know the author from a fisherman in hong kong, and whose to say the information in the post doesn't go beyond chakra, maybe that what Im trying to say. To the author it maybe just chakra but she probably doesn't know how deep it really goes.

I would think that you would have read everything you could on the author of your piece of evidence since you are using it to support your entire thread as proof of alien contact, and or abuction.

The author has been doing work with this chart for more than 20 years it appears, and in that time, if her work was used in any connection with aliens, one would think that it would have been mentioned somewhere in that 20 years by her. Maybe you should contact her and let her know that you are using her as evidence for proof of aliens.

It does seem awfully convenient that you decided to include her work as evidence to back up your claims, when really, you just decided to make it fit. So, since page 11 and 12 you have not supplied any proof to back up your claims. Everything else on pages 11 and 12 are your thoughts alone with no proof or evidence to back them up.

So, actually, just a few posts above, you told people to read the link again as evidence for your claims, when there really isn't anything there to support you. It says nothing by the author that it is used for proof of aliens or contact.

You are using another piece of work by a person you are not giving credit to, to back up your claims, and it has nothing to do with anything you are claiming. I would be quite interested in the feelings of the author you are linking to as evidence, since you make a point of equating her to "a fisherman in hong kong," whatever that means. It's okay for you to use her work to fit your agenda, but then you slight her with a comment like this, which in my opinion is rude. Then you have the gall to suggest that after all her years of work, that "she probably doesn't know how deep it goes." Once again, why don't you contact her and let her know, since you, and only you knows for sure.

reply to post by psycho81


Yep and it wasn't that hard because you have been through a similar situation to me, and Im not going to mention names for privacy but one guy contacted me and said that through his abduction the aliens said it was all to do with frequencies. I was so happy I though "yes I knew it, I knew thats what they were telling me.

But we already know that its all about that. Good luck trying to convince the debunkers though, although I do admit another poster on here is trying so I will give them credit for that, but the other one he's persistent in a bad way.

reply to post by psycho81


i have read this thread, and i have to say that you and drakir might be right in all that you are saying...but you have to understand, even i have met some people that claim to be contactees, but most of them, my dog would not want to contact them, let alone an alien being. so skepticism about your contact, should be expected by all of you. but i admire your tenacity and if more of us had actual contact, the less cynical we would be.

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


Wrong, Im not the only one that knows and just so you know the chart that is in the link is the only part of the puzzle in showing what Im saying is true. I know its true without the link but how else could I show a piece of the puzzle since its only between contractees and abductees.

The entire chart isn't the be all and end all of what Im saying, its part of what Im saying. Its meant to kick-start the thought process to go into a new way of thinking, but if it wont start than hey the information is as useful as a blown tire.

reply to post by jimmyx


Your right skepticism is normal but some people on here haven't even read the information I have provided and they just jump in and attack me and nitpick everything I say which is not productive.

and if more of us had actual contact, the less cynical we would be.

Couldn't of said it better myself. Some people don't want to accept that they haven't had an experience and want to hassle me just because I have they are complaining about something they can't change.



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I understand everyones opinion thats why.

Even the none believers, Everybody has there view on things and not everyones view is the same.

In all honesty if I was a none believer I would at least try what we are saying just out of intrest but thats me. If people want to debunk this Im cool with that it's not my job to show them new doors.

What i find confusing drakiir, is that you still won't answer me as to why you don't talk about HCR in the thread until two other members gave you the links to it on page 8 of the posts....you could not provide anything up until paul_richard and darcon gave you this info and now you claim it as proof.....and the site was set up by paul_richard and has links to his ATS profile.....and now you re dircting people on this site towards this.....this is really starting to smell bad.

reply to post by psycho81


They want to smash the door in and demand to come in on a meeting they aren't invited too, thats the whole approach. Nothing is private anymore everyone has to know everything, well not today it wont work with me.

reply to post by psycho81


Sorry psycho81 this was meant to be directed at the other poster, he annoyed me to such a degree, I was thinking of two things at once, again sorry. Il delete it.

You can thank the annoyingly "persistent one" for that, hes irritating beyond belief!!


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reply to post by atlasastro


Would you rather me direct them towards being abducted because thats the only sure way you going to find out. Thing is its not that easy they chose you not the other way around so thats useless. Have you got a better way for people to get an idea of what Im talking about.

I never said follow the link and do HCR or chakra, its only meant to jumpstart the minds of those who get it. I can do HCR chakra, meditation, mental drift , stand on my head, do a cartwheel, and a double summersault. There is no fixed way to tune yourself what you think HCR is the only way, you think I cant go above that or modify it. Thats limiting yourself and what fun it that huh.

Im all ears please go ahead.

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Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by psycho81

 

I already answered that its a couple of pages back, I found out what I was doing was called HCR I didn't know what it was in the first place thats what I asked the ufologist.

Productive or ignore take your damn pick

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wow....it was that easy huh.... someone just tells you its HCR and whammo...you accept that without question......but its not ok for some to say its a delusion......nahh....that does not fit the story...ok...ignore one and choose the one to help strengthen productive fantasy. ok. You know it, i know.....we all know it drakiir.

reply to post by atlasastro


You will only strengthen your fantasy, you wont wake up and open your eyes and although I hope you will that remains to be seen. You are letting the government dominate your very life and your happy to sit back and doubt or water it down anyway you can. You have contributed nothing of use to this thread except childish rebuttles, which I will add could go on forever. So have your "reality" have the rattle but dont blame me when the government snatches it from your hands and laughs in you face, That will be your doing not mine,

Have fun in your glass box for you will never smash it open, so goodbye and I wish you a hell of a lot of good luck. Oh I won the dare

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Originally posted by Drakiir


Wrong, Im not the only one that knows and just so you know the chart that is in the link is the only part of the puzzle in showing what Im saying is true. I know its true without the link but how else could I show a piece of the puzzle since its only between contractees and abductees.

Uhm, ok, but you keep telling people that the link you provided to the chart is evidence for everything you are talking about here. What are the rest of the puzzle pieces you are now saying are needed? Do you have links for those as well?

My point was that you are not giving the author of your evidence any credit when you refer to them as being like a "fisherman in hong kong."
You are after all, using her work as an important part of your thread, but now that changes after I question you on it? Suddenly, after just a couple of pages ago, when you were telling people to read it once again as your evidence, you now say it isn't that important? Just a piece of the puzzle? Hmmmm.

Pretend for my sake, since you are assuming that I am alien abducted or contactee challenged, how you would explain this all without it being in bits and pieces like a puzzle. What's the big picture here? It's only allegedly part truth to what you are saying? What's the rest of the truth, then?

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


I cant, your supposed to link it in your mind its supposed to work like a trigger, once you see it everything makes sense. Its literally a revelation when you realize it but like I said its meant for contacts and abductess and now you know why.

reply to post by Drakiir


How are you getting all this inside government information? You must be somebody very special to be privy to all this information, as well as being an alien contactee.

Aren't you in the least worried that somebody will come knocking on your door to question you about the source of your information? To find out who is leaking it to you, an average citizen?

I guess you never know who is reading this thread. What sorts of answers will you be able to give somebody if and when they come knocking on your door?

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


Why worry about that when they think Im crazy, I have a source he is a grey and they are here to help me and others.

Besides the amount of people that know this is so small its unbelievable, why do you think out of all the posts on ATS under aliens and ufos, this one was the only one that had it. Sure there were others who knew but we keep privately to ourselves.

Did you get the big picture you sound surprised?

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reply to post by Drakiir


Ok. Thanks. I do appreciate you answering this one. I do find that not all contatee stories are the same though. Not all will describe what you have, so I guess it might fit for some and not for others. So please keep that in mind when you say that only contactees will understand this, as there might be some people who have been contacted and have no clue where you are coming from, and I don't think it is just because they have no memory of the experience. I think some contactees might have had experiences that you have not, and that you would not understand. I do find that you are not accepting of this, and it seems that with contactees, the only stories you are willing to listen to are from people who have had experiences like yourself. You keep suggesting that people need to keep an open mind, and I would only offer that you need to take some of your own advice in that respect.

reply to post by Enthralled Fan


Anyone with any alien experience is welcome on here plus there are cases I have dealt with offline as well, but of-course I can discuss those. Every question and situation regarding people with expeiriences has been aswered as far as I know. Most I find have asked a question and gone, not stuck around like a few have.

You sound like you actually believe me did you see the big picture, I can tell something isn't right there is a shift in your mood.