Video emerges of woman 911 caller forcefully strip searched in police custody

1. What happened to only being strip searched by same sex officers - if there is not enough women on staff then deal with it another way.
2. What happened to being suspected of a crime
3. What happened to probable cause for a body search?

I would sue the crap out of department. Have them fired. Get them civilly convicted. Then move to another country with the millions if it was my wife.

who owns your driving licence ?

or more a more pertinant question who owns deivers licences issued in the states by the DMV ?

because here [ the UK ] the DVLA owns your drivers licence - and a licence issued to a desceased relative must be surrendered to the DVLA

and also if you hand your licence to a police officer in the UK they are under no oblication to return it - this is especially true if you have committed an offence .

so what is the US position - are you allowed to retain licences of dead relatives ? do they have to be voided ? do they remain the property of the state ?

just a thought

because if the licence remains DMV property - the officer may have been correct in refusing to return it , and things escalated from there

and people ask me why I don't trust the police.

it's very simple really... There is no such thing as victims in our society anymore. Everyone is Guilty until proven Innocent.

Every single one of these cops should be tortured in the exact same manner as these *self snip about 20 words here* cops tortured this poor woman.

Cops don't get they DON'T have a RIGHT to search a person... they have to have a REASON... they don't care anymore... and that HAS TO CHANGE NOW!

wake up people... these are YOUR police.

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
because if the licence remains DMV property - the officer may have been correct in refusing to return it , and things escalated from there

I'm not saying your wrong or right... but I recall paying $75 for my Drivers License... If the DMV wants it... they own me the $75 I paid for the original filing and the $30 I've paid to have it renewed twice... When the DMV hands me a $100 bill they can have my license... until then... From my Cold Dead Hands.

Freaking pervert cops! I loathe that

"Ssh! Just relax!"..."Calm down!"

That is the most disgusting thing i have ever seen. It is performed in total disregard of her pleas. Not one officer stood back and said "hey lets leave it there" which proves that they are a bunch of brainwashed goons. What the hell is this world coming to. Man we didnt even treat people like that in the military. Is this the shape of things to come? I bloody well hope not

I hope the woman takes the cops, their department, and the city straight to the cleaners. That was the most brutal and unneccessary assault on an individual that I have ever witnessed.

While the video does not show all of the events leading up to the removal of her clothes, the very fact that men were present is completley abhorrent.

She and her family have been traumatized by these events, and she deserves every penny that will no doubt be awarded.

Having read the thread through I have several thoughts, firstly I'm surprised when I read some people say it's the worst thing they have ever seen or that this could happen in their country, well wake up people and start getting out more start reading REAL news for a change. Check out the site this video was posted on, read the racism posted there. This is your country, big time, and not just your country, my country Ireland, is going this way. And what are we all doing, we are doing nothing, a BIG FAT NOTHING, we're scratching our heads and our asses and changing channels because we're bored and tired.
So will it change if Obama gets in to the White House, No it wont not a bit, because he's in the pockets of the powerful too.
Europe doesn't seem as blatantly corrupt as the US to many but it is steaming and rotten at the top too. In fact it seems that the entire top tier of modern western society is corrupt utterly, with VERY few exceptions.
Please stop being so surprised, you sound like children. And our children will require more than a sense of shock from us if they are to have a half decent life.

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Gawd man, get a grip. Try upping your fiber and re-reading what was posted will you?

BTW, your village called, *snip*


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Every penny, yeah sure that will help, in Ireland we call that "compo culture" which doesn't solve anything. If this is the worst thing you've seen then I suggest you check out the crimes carried out against civilians in Ghana, or the Congo or Darfur or other places where us white folks have trod. I have a pretty good grip thanks and I get plenty of fibre as well. And I'm not surprised that a western police force would do this to one of it's citizens, as a previous poster mentioned this is common place particularly in prison settings. Maybe you should ease up on the ole fibre, soma for the masses and all that.

Those police officers and their commanding officer should be arrested and charged accordingly, but will that happen ? No. Those who suggested they should be executed are as bad as they are.

Wake up this morning in a good cheerful mood then decide to view your thread. Well disgusting, is this in America? God damn I can't believe what I saw, there has to be more to this story than we are seeing, if not this whole police force should be fired.

When will they start teaching ethics at the police academy, it is much needed as the police are more and more looking like some sort of gang out to fufull bazaar hazing rituals ...

This also brings me back to one day I was standing outside a bar with a glass of 7up, was not drinking that night as I was DD. Anyways a squad car pulls by they see me, I see them and do nothing exept stand where I was talking to a few friends while they smoked a cigarette. Well next thing I know the cops are in my face, claiming I am drinking with an open container... I told them it was just 7up and they scoff and order me to the squad car. Next thing I know I was being handcuffed "for their own safety" then they began searching me for weapons. Well I won't lie I smoke mary jane and they found a small roach on me. When they found the dreaded illegal drug they said"I thought you said You had nothing" I said I had no weapons. Well that angered them and next thing I know I was tossed violently into the squad car, then they began screaming at me where I got it and this and that. Well I was angry now as I know my rights. I told them I was a pre law student(not really) and you "rookies" are going to be out of a job, either take me to jail or give me my tickets now.. They didnt care for this but it seemed to straighten them out immediatly, within 5 minutes I was handed 2 tickets, possesion of marijuana and an open container. Both of which were droped as I plead not guilty and niether officer showed up to court.

Originally posted by Digital_Reality
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WOW!

If that was my wife...... well lets just say it wouldn't be all good.
Its a scary thing to hear about something like that happening in this country. I hope they sue the hell outta the PD.

I couldn't agree with you more.
The revolution would begin on that day.

I am sick of the police abusing their self-proclaimed authority.
And I'm sick of reading about these rights violations.

Ive said it before and I'll say it again...

It's a brave new world, welcome to the monkey house!!


How did it feel to see the America of the Future?

I could not even begin to imagine if that had been my wife or daughter.

Everyone in America should see this outrageous video. Just think, if we had a free press and objective media this would have been front page or lead story everywhere. Instead it will bounce around on the inter-tubes and everyone who is already fed up and pissed off will just get more fed up and pissed off until one of "us" (the people who have their eyes open) gets caught up in a situation like this and we rightfully defend ouselves from open and blatant police abuse and aggression and then we will get put away somewhere forever and made into a criminal by the media.

This lady's husband should have gone King Kong on this entire Sherriff's office.

I hope ALL th eofficers inolved get jail time, including the Sherriff. I have read that Law enforcment personel fare rather poorly in prison..

Edited because I spell like a monkey.


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OUTRAGED! Are yous kidding me? "If this was my wife there would be hell to pay?" is that the best Americans can do or say?
I have always wanted to live in America since I was young, but now I would never set foot in America now. Yup keep talking and in 20 min from now you'll be saying "hrmmm I wonder if there is anything good on TV." This is your sister, as we are all brothers and sisters regardless of skin color or religion or Nationality.

You Americans make me sick. After this post, I'm going to mass email everyone to start getting the Canadian Government to act against the Nazi America. Even Hitler is a saint in comparison, at lest the Jew's were war criminals. The Jew's were the ones to declared war on Germany in 1933. No I don't agree with the killing of Jew's as my dad is a Jew's, even he said American has gone way to far.

Americans have become desensitized, why are yous not doing anything.... what the hell are yous waiting for RAMBO to come in and clean up your country? Or better yet yous are probably waiting for the second coming of Christ.

Americans just cant see why the hole world is against America..... my god, WAKE UP!

And of course police will denni everything, that's what they do best, do you really think a cop is going to implicate himself... LOL
I know this is probably against the ATS rules but it's true and I hope I don't get penalized for stating this but if i get in trouble for this then it is worth it I guess.

I have smoked with several cops and even as they are puffing on it they will still denni they smoke. Denni, Denni, Denni...
Why? so they believe there own lies and if they are needed to take a polygraph test they will pass because they will truly believe there own lies that they don't smoke. Not to mention that you might be recording them.

This is just Sick! if this happened in another country Americans would be at war with that country, like "poop" stains on underwear.
But as long as it's done by Americans in America that makes it OK.

I sure hope the second coming of Christ hurries the hell up, cause there wont be a world left for him to save at this rate

Stared and Flagged. I wish I could do more... Oh! wait there is lots one can do... it's called protesting and speaking out and acting on your anger of the situation. According to the American Constitution yous have the right to defend yourself with GUNS against unjust actions.... oh yeah! Americans have given up the Constitution and are giving into the Nazi Administration, they would rather lie down and die like sheep than to fight for what right and unjust.

I have no respect for the American people anymore. I truly think Americans have become fascist. GO ahead start more wars, borrow more money from the Federal Reserve Bank that yous can never payback. America at war with all nations but cant even protect it's own citizens. Wakey, Wakey... hello anyone home?

Our forefathers obviously went to war for nothing, they bled for nothing, they died for nothing. Had they known that our generation would just give in and die like sheep, they probably would have just said "oh well, someone is trying to control us... but who care? Nothing I can do about it"

The American Constitution is nothing but tissue paper for wiping the private parts after taking a dump.

Honestly I really would like to know what Americans are waiting for? Because when it happens to you, your wife or your kids, speaking out then will get you nothing because you don't act for your brothers and sister around the world yous only care about your immediate family. So why would anyone care about you when it happens to you?

Canada better reconsider putting America back on the list of countries that torture there citizens because they should #1 on the list. Why? because American are always preaching to be good to your neighbors but yous don't practice what yous preach. You just force your views on other nations.

America makes me sick! and so does your Nazi Bush Administration. Wake up America before yous find that the hole world has turned on America.

Bush even admitted he and his Administration are Terrorist when he put it in a bill for congress to sign. Why do you think Congress signed it? to give them immunity? lol NO! so everyone will see that they admit they are terrorist, but it's up to the people to to do something about it! and no that bill even though it has been signed by congress does not give them immunity. Only "We The People" can give them immunity. The Governments work for the People not the other way around and that goes for congress as well...

"We The People" can over rule Congress, but then again you would have to believe in the Constitution and you would have to believe that our forefather were fighting for FREEDOM and not just because they were bored, and they decided to have a war to spruce up there boring lives.

He who does not know there own history is always doomed to repeat his own history.
I really feel for yous but I also believe yous have it coming to yous. Maybe America like this new way of life and maybe yous like to be spoon fed and have to hold your hand when crossing the street, you know because yous are incapable of doing for yourself?

I know Canada isn't the greatest place to live but we still have a pretty good grip on our government. So bash us if you want but it wont fix the problems in America.

I'm Truly sorry I have to bash America but yous need it! and I'm so OUTRAGED by this video that I wanted to push the crap out of these cops and I would have if I had been there, and I would not care what happen to me even if they shot me dead.... Come on people that many cops on one woman? If this video does not cause yous to act in the name of JUSTICE then it's hopeless, and yous prove that yous would rather be dictated to than make decisions for yourself.

I guess this is why they can tell yous what your kids will learn, eat, and you will comply with lethal injection of vaccines for you child and you will act accordingly or be confined to prison.

P.S. Don't forget to start teaching your children to not call you mom and dad as it is a no, no now. Remember that gays have more rights than you or your children. Ohh never mind the schools will teach them for yous.

If those filthy men had done that to my Mom, wife, sister, or daughter, I would no doubt be facing 1st degree charges right now. I could not stop myself from getting a couple of full auto's together and performing some needed cleansing of the earth from vile scum like that.

Those cops should be fired, charged, convicted, and jailed for a very long time: The cons in prison will take care of the rest, believe me. If the system cannot stop horrors like this, then the people should take matters into their own hands...it has gone too far.

Unfortunately, when a citizen gets in the control of the cops, the cops can perform any deed they so choose. They can beat you, rape you, even kill you and they will be protected by there department.

The problem is, a bad cop is insulated from public scrutiny most of the time and a victim is pushed out of the way when a complaint is filed to the channel of authority that just victimized you.

This lady will no doubt be compensated in the millions for her night of horror while in the hands of cops. This is truly victimization at its fullest. Cops are not your friend and when you speak to a cop, call a cop, look at a cop, you are setting yourself up for questioning and a 75% chance of getting hooked up.

This is not an isolated incident, it happens everywhere law enforcement is empowered by authority. Even though there are good cops, the bad out number the good when common sense needs to be called upon.

If you want to see how the cops are acting like criminals which most of these cops are, than look here for bad cops. My favorite site for bad cops, bad cops, what ya gonna do when they come for you.

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Hey SpaceBits you really trouble me, your attitude to minorities is just a little frightening, if you happened to be a police officer and I happened to be gay well I wouldn't feel very comfortable being held in custody by you, about as comfortable as I would if I was held in custody by the police officers in the video in fact. I'd feel the same if I were jewish or anything other than what you are.

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You Americans make me sick. After this post, I'm going to mass email everyone to start getting the Canadian Government to act against the Nazi America

Easy now!.........

Canada already tagged america as a terrorist nation.

Edit: a spelling correction.

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You know what's amazing about this incident to me? It's how so many of you immediately feel qualified to pass judgment on the officers in question simply from viewing a few edited clips and the accompanying inflammatory commentary by a local news program. It wouldn't surprise me in the least on a lesser board, but here the members are supposed to at least pretend to believe in the site motto of "Deny Ignorance".

If this was a video of a UFO, there would be a large number of people offering up alternative explanations, and arguing why the things seen in the video are NOT what they appear. But because it's an accusation of police brutality, most posters immediately passed judgment and at least one of you readily proposed a summary execution.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not stating that the officers in this case are innocent of all accusations. I'm simply saying that from this video, we can't tell. There are way too many questions left unanswered by the news clip; not to mention the fact that local news desks are generally not known for their accurate reporting, or their journalistic acuity.

So, why is it that on a site which is known for questioning the reporting of the MSM, no one stops for one moment to wonder if maybe the local news reporters left out important parts of the story purposely to enhance the outrage garnered by the story, and therefore boost ratings?

Where's the rest of the dashcam footage? Where's an account of the incident from someone NOT biased towards the woman? (All I saw in the video was her husband, and her attorney) Did the woman in question really only mistakingly give the officer a false I.D. or did she do it on purpose? If it truly was an accident, did she express that calmly and politely to the officer or was she combative with him? What exactly was her behavior like, that it ended up with the officer arresting her, the victim of the assault, for disorderly conduct? What were the circumstances of the assault in the first place? Was the woman truly an innocent victim, or was she a willing participant in the fight? Was the woman combative with the Sheriff's deputies upon arriving in jail? Did the correctional officers have reason to believe the woman might be suicidal? If so, did the jail have suicide smocks, and if so why wasn't one provided to the woman? If they didn't, why not?

I could go on and on...

The fact is, we don't have enough facts to make a call on this one. So all of you calling for the heads, or at the very least the jobs, of the officers involved need to take a step back, a deep breath and maybe a chill pill.

This woman has filed suit against the Sheriff's Department, and will have her day in court, and without more information that's the only place anyone should be passing judgment on this one.

My $.02

-Cypher