Iraq conflict has killed a MILLION people: Study

reply to post by biggie smalls


"Murdering innocent civilians". Here we go again. Some people just love to throw this comment around.


"Love to see death on a daily basis?" Nope, no one in the military that I know enjoys something like that, whether it's military or civilians. How about you? Ever seen death on a daily basis?

reply to post by biggie smalls


That's nothing more than what you choose to believe. Nothing more. You can say you disagree with me. You can resort to name calling and insults as some like to do here when they can't browbeat someone else into accepting their views as gospel. Fine. Whatever. At the end of any day, all of the "I think ..." or "I feel ..." statements made are just that - what someone thinks/feels. Doesn't mean those thoughts are facts.

Originally posted by centurion1211


If anyone was against the war and wanted to drum up support for their position, what else would they do, but produce articles, studies and polls showing results favorable to their point of view and then trumpet them all over the media and internet as if they were actual facts.

I was born at night but it wasn't last night and I didn't come down on the last drop of rain. So please spare me the platitudes about crunched numbers when the ONLY person who has a motive to do that is BUSH.

The same way he says we have had 39,000 deaths when the DoD is investigating numbers to be around 70,000. They did the same thing during Vietnam

You are the one using tactics Boy Scout,, not me and don't be so presumptuous about numbers YOU think I like.

I DON'T LIKE THEM AT ALL

That's my exact point. Don't just blindly accept information because you like what it says, or it fits your views. I believe that's what is meant by "Deny Ignorance".

This comment only demonstrates you're argumentative but sadly not your ability to argue.

No person or group of people is without value – not even those whom our own government chooses to label the enemy. You wanna talk about denying ignorance?

The Fact is Homicide,, We didn't have a right to KILL ONE PERSON THERE

NOT ONE and whether it is 100,000 or 1 million,, if it was just one,,

It's ONE TOO MANY.

Can ya get that??



- Con



[edit on 30-1-2008 by Conspiriology]

Originally posted by centurion1211




Your country please. I noticed that you don't list a location. Why is that? Ashamed?

Well if he is American,, I can understand why he would be.

Then again,, he may just think it's none of your business.


- Con

[edit on 30-1-2008 by Conspiriology]

reply to post by Conspiriology

Funny, I'm not ashamed of being an American.

Originally posted by Conspiriology
I was born at night but it wasn't last night and I didn't come down on the last drop of rain.

Do you have a source for this besides rense or al-jazeera?

You are the one using tactics Boy Scout,, not me and don't be so presumptuous about numbers YOU think I like.

I DON'T LIKE THEM AT ALL

Ah, the name calling already. Thanks for the heads up that you have nothing left in your intellectual arsenal. And I didn't say you liked the numbers. Pay better attention, please. I basically suggested that you swallowed them whole solely because they fit your preconceived agenda. Well, I guess that might mean you still like the numbers at least a little ...

No person or group of people is without value – not even those whom our own government chooses to label the enemy. You wanna talk about denying ignorance?

The Fact is Homicide,

- Con

[edit on 30-1-2008 by Conspiriology]

No, I believe war and "homicide" are two entirely different things. And IMO you are fundamentally wrong in your assessment. For example, criminals (and religious fanatics) out to do you and your family harm have no value and should be stopped any way possible before they can do harm.

[edit on 1/30/2008 by centurion1211]

reply to post by jerico65


I expect some are ashamed you are american

BTW sunshine sarcasm slips past you as easy as the lies you parrot here.

Still getting lucky killing arabs in Iraq?I hope not,I get the feeling you have enough blood on your hands to last a few lifetimes.

whats one million to you?Nothing is it,you couldnt care-but thats why your out there in the sand pit and the rest of the world is having a party at your expense.I should feel sorry your out there,but to be honest its nice to know your types are not here on the streets!

Originally posted by jerico65
reply to post by Conspiriology

 

Funny, I'm not ashamed of being an American.

direct your post to the one who suggested it then.

I was the one that could understand it.

reply to post by Conspiriology


And this is for "noangels" too.

Ignored.

OK. Cancel the ignores for now. Another member has asked me to reconsider ignoring both of you. The funny part is why ...

[edit on 1/30/2008 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by noangels
I expect some are ashamed you are american

And I'm losing sleep over that.

Originally posted by noangels... as easy as the lies you parrot here....

Well, I have more to base my statements on Iraq on other than some website I found online.

Originally posted by noangelswhats one million to you?Nothing is it,you couldnt care-but thats why your out there in the sand pit and the rest of the world is having a party at your expense.I should feel sorry your out there,but to be honest its nice to know your types are not here on the streets!

As I had written before (and you obviously didn't read) no one wants to see anyone dead. US military or Iraqi civilians. Sorry if that's too hard for you to believe.

reply to post by Conspiriology


Well, you are the one that posted the suggestion that he might be ashamed, so I directed it to you.

Understand? Or did I type that too fast for you?

The study is absurd to say the least. You dont calculate death tolls by a survey of "how many people do you know" ! What is this ? Some kind of a joke !

reply to post by IAF101



It does get me thinking. They went house to house and interviewed 2414 people, and came up with the one million figure. I guess they just took their word for it, and didn't ask for death certificates or evidence.

The article also quotes Iraq Body Count, my person fav website:

"The widely watched Web site Iraq Body Count currently estimates that between 80,699 and 88,126 people have died in the conflict, although its methodology and figures have also been questioned by U.S. authorities and others."

Originally posted by centurion1211


Do you have a source for this besides rense or al-jazeera?

ClicKetY ClicK

Ah, the name calling already.

Yeah?? and here I thought Boy Scouts were a good thing. I got to say though,, it's the first time I have ever seen someone so desperate to accuse me of calling them names they make Boy Scout tantamount to those vulgar expletives say happen so much here. I guess what comes next is the quick win tactic?

Ahh yes there it is

Thanks for the heads up that you have nothing left in your intellectual arsenal.

Don't flatter yourself so much guy,,especially when matching wits with you is like I'm boxing a paraplegic. Your need to make innuendo about my intellectual arsenal or someones shame because you decided he should have posted where he is from is typical antagonistic angst aggression by people who insist on cheaply enhancing there ego by belittling others using such tawdry taunts. I have seen em all and they still get my pity. It does explain however the dig about religion and your apathy about all those deaths in Iraq

And I didn't say you liked the numbers. Pay better attention, please. I basically suggested that you swallowed them whole solely because they fit your preconceived agenda. Well, I guess that might mean you still like the numbers at least a little ...

Not as much as you like yours,, btw?? where do you get your info Bill Oreilly?

No, I believe war and "homicide" are two entirely different things.

Oh make no mistake son,, that was just a term of endearment moreover if I was asked if they are the same?? Depends on the war.

Justifiable Homicide is what are Boys are committing in wars all the time.
Before you go getting all presumptuous again making silly lil comments you think look clever,, why not just skip any guise of argument and just deliver the back handed insult.

That way you can continue to think that you make sense.

I would like to say that I am amazed at the level of intelligence on this thread, but it's about what I expected.

*Yawn*

And IMO you are fundamentally wrong in your assessment. For example, criminals (and religious fanatics) out to do you and your family harm have no value and should be stopped any way possible before they can do harm.

O Please,, I heard enough of this bunk when Bush was blathering it.

"The smoking gun could come as a mushroom cloud."

You just can't seem to do without that crystal ball I see.

They were coming to get us were they??

Lions and Tigers and Bears

OH MY!!

- Con


[edit on 30-1-2008 by Conspiriology]

Originally posted by jerico65

Well, you are the one that posted the suggestion that he might be ashamed, so I directed it to you.

Understand? Or did I type that too fast for you?

No it isn't your typing,, it seems to be your reading

Why would I understand when YOU insist on misrepresenting my post.

If you think I said it,, then by all means QUOTE ME

SHOW ME



I am copy pasting this FOR you. I like to help that way,, I mean considering your having trouble and all.

Originally posted by centurion1211




Your country please. I noticed that you don't list a location. Why is that? Ashamed

Read for fun Read for Family

- Con

[edit on 30-1-2008 by Conspiriology]

Originally posted by IAF101
The study is absurd to say the least. You dont calculate death tolls by a survey of "how many people do you know" ! What is this ? Some kind of a joke !

DING!!!!

The point I was trying to help some of these people understand earlier. But, no. This "poll" serves their purposes, and so it is automatically THE TRUTH

[edit on 1/30/2008 by centurion1211]

Originally posted by centurion1211

OK. Cancel the ignores for now. Another member has asked me to reconsider ignoring both of you. The funny part is why ...

Ignore you???

Sure why not,, after all YOU suggested I should deny ignorance.

I don't know of a better place to start.

- Con

Originally posted by Conspiriology

Originally posted by centurion1211




Your country please. I noticed that you don't list a location. Why is that? Ashamed?

Well if he is American,, I can understand why he would be.

Then again,, he may just think it's none of your business.


- Con

[edit on 30-1-2008 by Conspiriology]

There you go. Centurion asked if he was ashamed, you said, "Well, if he's American, I can understand why he would be."

Then I said, "Funny, I'm not ashamed and I'm an American.

And here we are.

U/S killed over 1 mill iraqis?

Damn, that's some serious ass-kicking for sure.

[edit on 30-1-2008 by TheoOne]

Originally posted by Conspiriology


Justifiable Homicide is what are Boys are committing in wars all the time.

We don't murder people in war. We kill them. There's a difference.