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Originally posted by kangjia57
Ok my humble noble friend can you tell me how is Quran is fake (with evidence)?
SO what’s the new ‘fake’ thing in Quran?
Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
You seem to be holding the Qu'ran to different standards than you do your own faith.
Because it is not your belief, and it's obvious you hold a lot of resentment, if not are plain fearful of this other religion to even begin to understand it.
You're all talking as if the Qu'ran should be held accountable for every single word the authors have written
while you praise your book with similar inconsistencies, even praising prophets that were murderers themselves. Moses, anybody?
There were many books that didn't make it for numerous reasons. Too old, too new, didn't make the cut off in time, wasn't discovered yet, deemed heretical, etc..The Gospel of Hebrews, Eusebius, Thomas, not even the Letter of Clement made it. Your bible was nitpicked out of a slew of books. 367 A.D. is an important year for your religion. That's when the bible was actually created from the numerous writings of supposed apostles, saints, and other holy men. Considering the thousand plus errors and inconsistencies, I don't think god made the meeting.
Originally posted by defcon365
I would say the Koran is simply a demonic created religon, and what a suprise, they war against Christians and Jews...
Jesus warned us that an Antichrist would arise and specifically target Jews and Christians. I don't think Islam is the Antichrist but it would not surprise me to see the Antichrist arise from Islam. Some passages in the Hadith (and I will admit not all Muslims accept the Hadith but they don't necessarily condemn it either) show a figure coming onto the world to usher in worldwide domination and a one world religion (things the Antichrist is supposed to do) and is supposed to specifically target, you guessed it, Jews and Christians who do not convert.
We refused because we saw him for what he was- a false prophet who got his Satanic revelations through epileptic-like fits.
Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
It's pretty alarming how defensive you're becoming over this whole thing. Calm down.
If you're going to use your own personal religious text as the only supporting evidence that another religion is fake, it's only fair that we first examine the credibility of the source you're using to discredit the religion.
I nor anybody else should have a bearing on your life, though the direction your heading could only perpetuate the hatred between these various religions.
But it is frustrating to want to debate something and then basically be accused of being close minded when you ask about a subject that is apparently taboo. Or because you have a concern about another religion's text it must be because you are threatened or biased. Textual criticism of the Bible is discussed on numerous threads on ATS. In this thread, now we are discussing the textual criticism of the Koran. It it not close minded, intolerant, or a religious war. It's an examination of the facts.
Not so. There are numerous secular sources that refute many core tenets of Islam and the history it proposes. But I have refrained from bringing these up because I'm not interested in bashing Islam, their history, or doctrine. I'm curious to know if the Koran was penned and formed the way it has indisputably been claimed for centuries.
There are many references in the Hadith and Koran (and I will admit they are often taken out of context but the fact remains) they refer to slaughtering Christians and Jews who do not convert. This is okay but when a Christian asks a question about the validity of the text (not really even the actual religion), we are "perpetuating hatred." Do you not see the bias?
I'm sick to death of seeing Christian and Jew bashing but when a Christian or Jew asks a question or proposes a theory about Islam, it is supposedly based on intolerance, ignorance, feeling threatened, etc.
Anyways, this discussion is going absolutely nowhere.
Originally posted by kangjia57
I still don’t get the question you are tryna ask?
Originally posted by DeadFlagBlues
You've labeled Islam as a demonic religion. Mohammad's episodes were "Satanic." And the religion is a "Pagan" one. This isn't being concerned or curious, or tolerant. This is called being ignorant, bias, and disrespectful.