FULL ET Discloure is coming...

Originally posted by Monsterenergy791

OK. I seemed to upset you a little, but I didn't really mean it. Plus I could believe you, but on a internet discussion board, you don't get to know the person you are talking to very well.

I believe in reincarnations, but to know who you were before this life is almost impossible, so I'm saying it's possible. But before I ever make any hard to believe or out of the ordinary stories, I make sure I'm right, because honestly, I don't like being wrong about something I believe in.

So, you believe in reincarnation, so you don't then believe at you have soul, you are just meat what working ownself like robots. Brain quality makes you working with electricity what make's you gathering energy for yourself too, through your nerves. After you die, you will never come back, that's what is reincarnation in reality, you have never have been soul so you can't continue your life when your body dies.

There is spiritual and physical sides of the world. Spiritual side is that where you can go through objects and etc. Physical side is that side where you can touch objects and not go through them. In spiritual side you can touch items too if you have enough ability to change some of part of your soul energy to physically, but same time its spiritual side. So 2 sides in this world. There is more things in spiritual side but i tell now basics of what is spiritual and physical side. Our body don't see spiritual side of world if we have not actived in our brain system to get soul energy go through eyes. That way you can only see other souls. You can hear them even if you haven't actived that but you can't see them. I have heard some of them talking to me, but because of situation i didn't can't ansrew for them. One of my experience. Someone of them said my name two times, then other one said, he can't hear us, i don't remember how it continued but those words i remember from them. Don't know who they were, both of they got girl voice.

From those experiences i have become aware from other side. I don't believe god because there is no god if noone come someone slave. There is no satan because satan is same as god, leader of slaves, name just changed. I don't believe hell or heaven because there is no god or satan. I don't believe reincarnation because of my experiences. Those souls who talking sometimes to me have given me proof but that proof is that kind at that you will get only to get your own experience. They not talk allways because usually they not stay here earth long time because they leave to other galaxies, maybe going next body what is free. So that's why here earth is so silence and we not hear souls talking, there is usually only souls who are in body, but those who body have goed off (Dead), they usually leaves from planet to other galaxies or places in week, those who stays usually here thinking, what the heck, my body is there, i need to tell somebody about this at my body is stucked here. Someone will stay because of that usually, but someone have other reason.

Proof what happen after death, i have got this and thinked from my experiences of spiritual side.

After your body dies, you go out of your body because you are not anymore connected to your body. Then next after you are out of body fully, you can go then anywhere because spiritual side is not so limited as physical world. We could say at spiritual side have infinity things what you can do there. Those souls who are fully the other side, are same people who were before humans or maybe some souls come's from far far away from stars. I try explain best as i can at you could know what i mean, you all who readed this.

After death you continue your life, but only more from spiritual side because body goed off. But you continue your life like you are here physical side, because yourself not changing, you only lose body. No physical proof me from this, but talk to emptyness, someone maybe ansrew someday for you.

reply to post by Forell



Are you aware of who Incarnated claims to be?

I don't know if it's true and have no way of knowing, but I don't know if he has any special abilities--many people on this site do.

reply to post by Monsterenergy791


Yeah i know who he claims to be.. As far as i know, i could claim that im the Santa claus, and some people would take it seriously and others would not. Without evidence these things are just stories written by someone, somewhere over the net. Im not as sceptic as i may sound, but most of these claims are just done by attention seekers and so on..

reply to post by Silenteye



It sounds like you believe in reincarnation, becasue you state souls can and do travel through the galaxy and stars (which is maybe why I'm fascinated with stars and astronomy so much, but I don't know really).


And you don't believe in God either, but I do and I think of him as the universal consciousness, the collective consciousness. He's the spirit and has infinite knowledge and potential, just expressing himself as the universe and ourselves.

Disclosure has already happened. Multiple times.

Inside government officials, whistleblowers etc. They've all come out, all of them have disclosed fantastic information,

people are still in denial.
That's the sad, sad truth to it. Disclosure has already happened, and people are in denial.

What most people want is a speech from the President, covering of the topic by mass media etc. That's never going to happen... so they're never going to accept the fact that E.T.'s, interdimensional travel, free energy etc. has already been disclosed!

reply to post by Forell



So do you believe Incarnated was an angel in one of his past lives or are you undecided because there can't be any evidence for it?

Originally posted by eRauzed
reply to post by SevenThunders

 

Is it just me or could an Antichrist just be someone who disproves the concepts of Christianity ? Meaning that an Antichrist doesn't have to be all bad. Also why does everyone assume aliens have evil agendas ? When you take a pet to the vet they are shet scared however they don't know that we are just trying to help them. Its probably the same thing for aliens doing things to us.

The Antichrist is likely something completely different. Like an attitude and agendized MO in the structure of Corporatism.

Single persons as such would not have enough access unless he/she was at the helm of all business corps world wide and determined to make profit from Soilent Green or such nightmares.

A unified planetary government might give individuals in influential places some power, but I cannot even see a European or western born leader that the eastern and rogue states would even consider in our present day world culture. Well, unless they had lightning bolts coming out of their eyes and could smite a land on command.

ZG

i have an interesting Theory, i hope this has not been stated before. but i think we are being told little by little the truth and the goverments and letting out little pieces of information so that people can find and share with more people ect ect, so my theory is that the year 2012 is not the end of the world as : the world destroyed ect: but its the end of the world as we know it.

by 2012 we will have a new perspective of life and what we actually are and what kind of entities are around us ect ect, so basicly life as we know it now, will completely change. well at least this is what i want to think lol dosen't mean i'm not gonna have food storage, couple of guns and ammo, and a good hidden shelter by 2012 ... you know just in case i'm wrong

Originally posted by Monsterenergy791
reply to post by Silenteye

 

It sounds like you believe in reincarnation, becasue you state souls can and do travel through the galaxy and stars (which is maybe why I'm fascinated with stars and astronomy so much, but I don't know really).


And you don't believe in God either, but I do and I think of him as the universal consciousness, the collective consciousness. He's the spirit and has infinite knowledge and potential, just expressing himself as the universe and ourselves.

Reincarnation is borning again, when our souls are destroyed to pieces, only energy changing, when our body is destroyed to pieces, only energy changes, when we leave fully out of our body after our body goes off, energy just changing in body and that makes that kind thing at it not connect anymore with soul and remember, we are still alive after our body dies because body is just our car what we use if we want to use, noone have forced you to be in that body. World is just world, and world has been allways even if in world have been nothing. And world is just different parts of energies, what changing what energy types them changing. World is infinity. Because if we say there is wall, we must ask then what is the other side of wall. So world is infinity so we can say from energies same too, because if we look outside, we see many of different energy types, when we look outside, we then know at there is infinity energy types too.

If you now say at world is god. No no, god means other thing. Watch 300 movie and look that persian and his slaves. That is god, god have prayers what other words we can say slaves. You can be god too, first create cult and then say people at you are god. That's how god has been created.

World is just world. And because of its world, if you say its god, you pray for yourself because you are part of world. So better is to pray someone who is physical. Even if we are all part of world, same world only different energy parts everyone, we can still share world with others, because world is belong to everyone and not to those who want be leaders of world and say others their slaves.

From wikipedia.

"Reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again"

So its to be made meat again. But when you looking new body and find some body where you want to go, your soul not born again, its just connects with body and it becomes your soul car. So soul not born again, so you not reincarnate, because world is everything, only energy changes and because you are part of world, you not born again, only energies changing. Souls talking from emptyness (Moving around us and sometimes try talk), that says one thing too why we not reincarnate, so there is much of proofs what is against reincarnation, at why reincarnations not happening. Those souls who are new ones, are accidentaly created themselves to soul form, or their soul borned through evolution in body or space what most of world is.

Everything is energy in the world, physical parts and spirtual parts of world. 2 sides of world. If we look this thing closer why soul not reincarnate, think your body where you live now, your body exploding someday to pieces, do you get same new body? No. What if your life was just in body. You now not exist anymore. Do you use new or old soul when you continue your life if your life wasn't in that body, life was in soul? You use old soul now, if you borned new one in that body what has exploded to pieces now. Because you use old soul after death, you are not new one, so you not reincarnating. And borning first time is not reincarnate, because reincarnating basing to after death. When you go to other body, you not born again because your soul has borned allready, so its not reincarnating, because that soul not borning again, it just connects in that body like you put usb wire to your computer.

Bye.

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reply to post by NewWorldOver


Personally, I agree. I've seen much truth placed right there in front of the public eye. I believe there's just about "full disclosure" if you know what pieces to add up and what pieces go where.

However this thread is about "full disclosure", and that isn't the dribs and drabs of truth here and there. The term might have diffrent meanings to diffrent people.

What I mean by "full disclosure" is an office report in detail.

Dear fellow thread posters...

Although I feel benifitial you'll obsess over the topic of "Michael... blah blah blah...". I kindly point out that this thread is about "ET Full Discloure". And although I'm thankful for the points my spectualar statements of before hand have generated on my threads. I do hope to keep to the topic of the thread at hand.

I can't help but feel that any attempts at statements rephrased out of context on other threads I make are somehow out of place and perhaps ill entened as some sorth of charactor debasting, I'm more then always open for a free dance around the topic via U2U if you like.

I however do believe fully in UFOs, "alien beings", and other fantastic space stuff...

If I knew something. I could tell you. You however wouldn't know to believe me or not. You've gotta know what that's like already. So I present it in topics.

I know, I've heard somewhere along the way, that the "aliens" have put out a date, and they are never late. I forget where I've heard such things however.

Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by NewWorldOver

 

What I mean by "full disclosure" is an office report in detail.

I wish the government would do this and that would get a lot of people excited.


But of course, if a full disclosure did happen, many would still not believe in the report fully if it were by the U.S. government.


I don't our government knows too much to FULLY tell us the tell and nothing but the truth. They might give us some stories and facts, but they could easily cover up any information they want to keep secret from the nation.

reply to post by Monsterenergy791


Personally to me, "alien" beings from out of space are well documented in religious texts, I'd not be shocked one bit to gain understanding of such in real phyical life.

However, I've seen some reports of how people with "religious belief system" strongly a part of their charactor's being, go blind with grief upon realiztion of the reality of aliens.

This is just one of several factors a "government" of people needs consider.

As you say, it would excite many people, but then again it would also freak many people out, and it mostlikely would scare several people to death.

There would be people who kill themselves upon release of such info, however they might be the same people that would kill themselves next chance they get.

I bet just the global responce on a "small town" or something like that might make for an intresting enough movie. You could make a "alien" movie where only the info of alien beings projects the story line along, and in the end no one had yet even seen an alien.

Let us not forget the events of Well's "War of the Worlds" Broadcast.

Answer to the posted subject,

Could not happen.

Even false flag operations will not be convincing to enough to completely control the outcome. Intervention has been indicated will happen by some EBE cultures here now in such an event. There are many, but only a few give a hoot.

The disclosure, at best, would only cite evidence that other civilized races exist, but even that would not happen for the door it would open.

First of all, only a small fraction of "the government" even knows about such facts and records, and only a small fraction of that is privy to any actual tangible proof. The real holders of this secret are multinational corporations, intermeshed with the military industrial complex of the large nations of the planet, and only western allied.

This group answers to no one, not even governments. They use governments and military like a corporation uses outside agencies for contract employees and services for marketing and public relations.

They will not even disclose they exist, let alone all the power and technology they have horded and used for more profit and control and against the people of this planet, including their own. They have no alliance with people. We are dust to be swept away to create their own world where domination and control is at the core.

Many alien civilizations know this and are watching. They know we have to solve this problem ourselves to graduate to a peaceful and contributing species. If we are helped, we have not learned to protect and value our god given sovereignties.

i.e., If a player in a game cannot show the skills to participate and follow the rules we bench them. We might try and help them, but if we are barred from such, it will not go fast and the player will remain benched.

We do have the means, but our populations are de-educated with consumerist agenda, dysfunctional pop-culture and polarized governments, religions and societies. We are influenced to distrust anything new or what we do not understand at a 5th grade level. All the new abilities we have shunned for psychic and healing, empathic and extrasensory is taught as counter to not only reality, but is called evil (what ever that is) and most the populace goes along.

Try walking against a crowd of scared people leaving a building. You could be a very strong individual, yet are easily caught up in the turbulent river of fearful people and trampled to death.

Our only hope is to educate each other and ourselves and take back the power we all have been told is not ours. The power of freedom, creative awareness, knowledge and understanding. Until then we are sheep for the slaughter.

The education we are getting from "others" and sharing it amongst ourselves is met with skepticism, anger and fear. Even here on ATS. The messages given to plain old people like us who have experienced the inexplicable and kept our marbles to come back and tell others is plainly a dangerous job. You are ridiculed and censored routinely because the greater reality you are now aware of does not neatly fit into the square peg we all have been programmed to believe is the truth. Many know better, but paralyzed by fear. That is why I have such respect for people here who have and share this information. There will only be the proof you find in your heart. You have to listen carefully to others and turn down your filters to hear clearly. You will hear truth in your hearts.

We will for the moment ignore the hoaxers, who have other problems psychologically, emotionally or are just ignorant.

We have to do this ourselves. No one will save us if we make no effort to discover the truth and help each other. Time to grow up.

There are lots of special people here to help, and children being born each minuet who are going to be brilliant and special if we do not poison them with our dysfunctions.

Have hope. We CAN discover our future as positive and beautiful. Help each other. It's a path with a heart.

But, don't be waiting for the mail to deliver any truth from the government.

Won't happen.

ZG

reply to post by ZeroGhost


I respect your attempt of a long and detailed answer to this posed question. It's a wonderful job, what I read of it. However it is based around one false assumption.

Your writings are based under the false assumption that the world's "future" will continue foward in the way it seems it is mostlikely to continue. The earth will continue to spin, the sun will continue to shine, mankind will continue to strugle at peace and try not to distroy the planet. And although, if you calculate the odds of this being the case, you'd have a safe bet.

I personally don't believe that to be the case. In fact that may or maynot be the case but we can not put all our eggs in one basked of assumption that the world isn't destined for major sweeping changes in the very near future. (2012).

Regardless, of what the near future holds, one day, some how, some way, something along the lines of full disclosure will have to happen.

In truth, the only reason "disclosure" has yet to happen is that mankind, through their governments, feel the need to keep secrets in the name of "security"...


You know, that would make a killer thread. What we as a world could acchieve with the funds we waste keeping secrets from others while spending money to sneak a peek at other governments' secrets to boot.

Originally posted by g210b

Originally posted by Incarnated

The "Top Secrets" of "alien" ET, UFO Phenomon is going to be disclosed to the public fully. It is only a matter of time. I believe that time isn't that far off from right now. However I'd like to discuss something.

What do you think this full disclousre will look like?

I think your title is missleading wrong because you clearly post your believe here not a fact and want to discutate further how this disclosure could look like.

The Title "FULL ET Discloseure is coming" is read as a fact.

I agree with this. I clicked on this thread because I thought that you had information about a Full Et Disclosure... Boy was I wrong.

But anyways, I believe they will release it piece by piece because obviously those who are more conservative will have a harder time swallowing it down than say someone who is of our generation. Mind you, the government('s) priority as of now is to keep the world from mass panic.

I can't say that I blame them, however it does get quite frustrating when one wants to know more about the subject matter but is restained by the current state of information released.

Well, here's the depressing thing about government disclosure.

If you've ever listened to well known whistleblowers like Phill Schneider, Dr. Deagle etc. :

What the government is actually doing with E.T.'s is more horrific and un-imaginable for the general populace than they could ever imagine. To FULLY disclose the extent to which humanity has been sold out and how many children have disappeared as a result, the things that were done to those children, the genetic engineering and 'hall of nightmares' in Underground Military Bases.

If the government fully disclosed these nightmares there would be no more government. People would be so terrified and outraged that they would storm the office of every government building and government officials would be hanging in the streets.

They know this. So secrets are kept.

reply to post by NewWorldOver


You have to watch where you get your info from. Some people speak as if they are "disclosing the truth" but they have their own issues. Sometimes people go mental, and employment in government is terminated rightly so.

Some have entent of their own goals. Some have just poor judgement in realy and perceptions and fill in massive holes of knowledge with poor persumptions.

If I was an "evil govenment" and needed "children" for "experments" I'd farm those children not steal them from society. It could easily be that a wing of a hospital had a room with dozzens of women whom' having labotomys, just be grounds to implating children and havesting them. This would be very inexpensive, secret, and very effective. Why would our government steal public children? It makes no sense, and thus should be thrown out.

reply to post by FadeToBlack



Oh it is coming...

Your perceptions of the title doesn't meant the title isn't valid.

Oh, it's coming...

reply to post by SevenThunders


First of all, there IS power in the name of Jesus, and Jesus is real.

And there most certainly is occult, and satanic, and demonic.

That said, I think it should be noted that just because something responds to being commanded in the name of Jesus does not make it demonic, occult, satanic...any of those things. This just rightly so confirms the power of the Son of God.

After all, ultimately God has domain over ALL, so regardless of their origin, it only makes sense that they would respond accordingly.

Mind you, I'm in agreement with what's been reported as having happened, I'm just saying conclusions and deductions about the so-called "alien" cannot justifiably be based on that fact: that there IS power is the name of Jesus.

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