FULL ET Discloure is coming...

A full disclosure by "the controllers" IS possible - by way of a "Truth-Amnesty" program. ie they have to be able to come forward with the information and technology that they have without fear of being prosecuted/executed for the crimes committed in maintaining the cover-up!

Another way that full disclosure might come about is the Open Contact with a G7/8 country as promised by Greer Inc.

reply to post by SevenThunders


The way I look at it religions have those sort of 'safegaurds' to protect them from something they knew will disprove them so they throw them in to make people think twice. I stick by my idea that the anti-christ isn't necessarily evil.

I do have one question about the passage you posted though. It pretty much says that anyone claiming Jesus originated from somewhere other than God is a demon. If this was the case and Jesus was an alien then didn't the aliens who injected this knowledge just cause themselves greif. Unless aliens are god. Why would they do that ?

reply to post by eRauzed

Also going by religous zealot logic, if aliens are demons, angels have to be aliens.
Another thing that religous zealots seem to always avoid, is why do tribes that have been untouched by modern religion/man for the past 2500+ years say we were created by "people" from the stars.
Also the fact Romans created christianity by stealing all the ideology from pagan religions. The pagans used to celebrate the 22nd of december because it was the time when the Sun stopped moving North for 3 days then on the 25th it was reborn by moving south again indicating that the growing seasons were returning. Why also does the Christian Religion celebrate this period as the day Christ ( Sun or Son ) dies and is resurected after 3 days?
I would like a zealot to come up with a logical explanation for this? Oh sorry it proves their bulls**t is just that bulls**t!!!



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You are correct Skunk2.

I think the "Christ, Son of God" mythology is copied directly from the pagan "Sun God" rituals. (As depicted in Zeitgeist Part I)

Though there may still have existed a real Prophet/Avatar - Yeshua, or Essa, etc - at that time. Whose real identity and history was twisted around by the early Church.

Do you really think even if you get your "disclosure" it will be the truth?

If the government gave you the truth they would be in prison. Do you have any idea the number of UFOLOGIST that have died under strange conditions?

Do you expect the US government to say" my, bad"? If they have been lying since the 30's what is too much? Where they also lying about the NWO and 911? What about JFK or the Oklahoma City bombing? Do you see why you will never get disclosure? Let me rephrase that. Do you see why they will never give you the truth? They can't. How do you admit to murdering your citizens to keep a secret that we should have know from day one and still have order? There would be a lot of retirement parties.

Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
reply to post by SKUNK2

 

You are correct Skunk2.

I think the "Christ, Son of God" mythology is copied directly from the pagan "Sun God" rituals. (As depicted in Zeitgeist Part I)

Though there may still have existed a real Prophet/Avatar - Yeshua, or Essa, etc - at that time. Whose real identity and history was twisted around by the early Church.

You ever seen the celtic cross?
Blends in christianity and pagan beliefs,

Its the cross with a ring around the points (being the sun)

Originally posted by SevenThunders

This is exactly what the so called reported alien encounters do. They deny that Jesus is from God. They say Jesus is an alien.

I would say that is a very general statement. I have heard various accounts of encounters, most never mentioning God or Jesus. Not a great cornerstone for your argument to build upon.

Moreover the encounters tend to often be less corporal and more metaphysical. In other words they behave like demons rather than physical beings.

Or they could be a dream, or they could be total assumptions based on the comparitive descriptions of what people have claimed to see, assuming you take for gospel the few descriptions that you have heard that fit the mold of what you claim. Hardly objective in my opinion. Either way your Presumptions are far from definitive fact.




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reply to post by SevenThunders

great....so no matter how we live our lives...if we don't believe, truly believe in the lord we're all going to hell...and i suppose god doesn't recognize us humans that actually do good and decent deeds for our fellow man if we do not believe in him....but if your a christian and commit evil sins...but ask for forgiveness, you go to heaven. wow, now that is some arrogance...maybe this is why governments run by religious dictates fail. as the old saying goes "heaven has a nice view, but hell has alot more interesting company"

Originally posted by tombangelta
reply to post by Incarnated

 

FULL ET Discloure is coming...

a child, shoved into a closet, will eventually grow big enough to kick down the door.

This is you entire argument for posting a thread called full ET disclosure is coming.

Well, it's more a thesis rather then an argument. I'm glad someone reads what I write more then just the title.

It should be intresting.

I am in Australia and if I am not mistaken then the US is having an election shortly. My mate and I were discussing this the other day and came to the conclusion that Hilary Clinton will win the election and then just lay everything on the table. If this is not the case, which I do not back 100%, I believe that our galactic friends will show themselves. Watch 'Bringers of the Dawn' on youtube and then visit www.petitiononline.com...

Basically earth is a free world and they need our permission before just rocking up. These are the good ET's. But this is the year the majority of the public will wake up and learn that all is not as it seems!

Originally posted by dark_matter06
Do you really think even if you get your "disclosure" it will be the truth?

If the government gave you the truth they would be in prison. Do you have any idea the number of UFOLOGIST that have died under strange conditions?

Do you expect the US government to say" my, bad"? If they have been lying since the 30's what is too much? Where they also lying about the NWO and 911? What about JFK or the Oklahoma City bombing? Do you see why you will never get disclosure? Let me rephrase that. Do you see why they will never give you the truth? They can't. How do you admit to murdering your citizens to keep a secret that we should have know from day one and still have order? There would be a lot of retirement parties.

Disclosure doesn't have to mean telling everything.. all they have to say is "we have just found alien life", they will never disclose the history behind it but they can disclose the fact aliens exist (which they have known for years).

Also the generation of people who first kept this a secret back in the 40's 50's are getting old now (no offence), when a new generation of people get into power who's to say they cant disclose... it will not be them going to prison.

Originally posted by II HAL II

Disclosure doesn't have to mean telling everything.. all they have to say is "we have just found alien life", they will never disclose the history behind it but they can disclose the fact aliens exist (which they have known for years).

Also the generation of people who first kept this a secret back in the 40's 50's are getting old now (no offence), when a new generation of people get into power who's to say they cant disclose... it will not be them going to prison.

Yes, they will not disclosure or accept "Worldwide diplomacy with E.T people". That's why we need to work together and not wait government to do it for us. We are those who E.T waiting, not government. Do someone want help this diplomacy coming faster here? I have been thinking at people just waiting only 2012 and leave this "Worldwide diplomacy with E.T people" behind because they are not interested and do not want see E.T more than E.T. I see E.T same worthy as everyone, i accept them even if they are what kind race they are. Friendship with them is more important than ignorance.

I work with a lot of people, around 700 - 800. We all interact during our courser of duty sometimes not spending time with each other from one week to the next. During our duties we have a lot of time to discuss things and as the way I am I try to bring up theories we discuss here on ATS.

I also dont push things down throats!

But I must say I sometimes have to laugh some of our discussions off rather than become a circus idiot.

How can a mass disclosure happen to people that cant comprehend what we talk about daily. Seriously, it could cause mayhem.

Then small snippets of info dont get seen by anybody really.

I suppose I,m saying is that one mass disclosure is the only way. Cos S**t is gonna happen anyway.

Just a thought.

I believe that the more people that begin to believe, accept the possibility or even just suspect that something is up; the better chance we have at getting some kind of disclosure. Some polls are hitting the 50%+ mark for belief in UFOs and ETs. I think when that number hits around 80% or more worldwide, official disclosure, at least a limited one will follow. I even saw UFOs discussed briefly in a presidential debate a while back.

UFOlogy is a lot more mainstream that it was a few years ago. Just a few months ago I was at the point of having seen a few strange things in the sky and believing in the possibility by the sheer number of stars, planets and galaxies in our universe but was still undecided. Then a UFOlogist buddy came back to town and we started talking, I started researching and looking up more. Not long after I saw a couple more unexplained things and then I came here researching Sgt. Clifford Stone, happened upon AlienAgenda's "Proof positive of alien coms" tried his technique and my life was changed (seeing the small ethereal 'Gray' entity dart out from behind my car, vanish behind the wood pile, reappear on my deck and vanish again was proof positive enough for me, not to mention all the other weird stuff). Since then I have been introducing friends and family to some of the less extreme things like the NASA UFO videos and have helped open a few eyes and dropped a few jaws too, lol.

So IMO the more we can expose people who are still on the fence or have no clue whatsoever to some of the things that have brought us to our realizations, the sooner we will see disclosure to some degree or another.

I also think that all those unexplainable things in the STS mission videos not getting censored or 'airbrushed' out is a good sign that disclosure is coming soon to a reality near you!

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Hey Incarnated, or should I say Michael, shouldn't you know if full ET disclosure is about to come?

You don't have any ability to know of future events?

reply to post by Monsterenergy791


Regardless of the reality of myself, or your choice of perceptions of my words pryor to this thread, or perhaps even my abilities to read, reflect and percieve what is written and what is to be or not to be, in no way of what I have to tell you will you believe me because you can't understand me.

So I put it out there for discussions

Oh sure, I'm a dramatic man. I sometimes get theathrical in my forms of expression. However I am INCARNATED as a man. I am a man.


YOU think you understand me, but you don't understand me. You only percieve you understand me. Your perceptions are not me, they are you.



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Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by Monsterenergy791

 

Regardless of the reality of myself, or your choice of perceptions of my words pryor to this thread, or perhaps even my abilities to read, reflect and percieve what is written and what is to be or not to be, in no way of what I have to tell you will you believe me because you can't understand me.


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OK. I seemed to upset you a little, but I didn't really mean it. Plus I could believe you, but on a internet discussion board, you don't get to know the person you are talking to very well.

I believe in reincarnations, but to know who you were before this life is almost impossible, so I'm saying it's possible. But before I ever make any hard to believe or out of the ordinary stories, I make sure I'm right, because honestly, I don't like being wrong about something I believe in.

I think these kinds of threads are vapid and useless and downright boring at this point, and annoy the hell out of me. I consider myself open minded, but not so much that my brain falls out. And the more threads like this appearing on this site to me suggests boredom and desperation more than anything else. Haven't you guys anything better to do with your time, haven't I got anything better to do with MY time.. jeeez.

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I guess not!


But threads like these only express opinions and not everyone may find it interesting.

There's also another thread active right now concerning someone's opinion on how he thinks that the Anti-Christ is going to be positive and be good for the world.

Originally posted by Monsterenergy791
reply to post by Incarnated

 

Hey Incarnated, or should I say Michael, shouldn't you know if full ET disclosure is about to come?

You don't have any ability to know of future events?

Originally posted by Incarnated
reply to post by Monsterenergy791

 

Regardless of the reality of myself, or your choice of perceptions of my words pryor to this thread, or perhaps even my abilities to read, reflect and percieve what is written and what is to be or not to be, in no way of what I have to tell you will you believe me because you can't understand me.

Thanks for dancing around his question, Incarnated.