FLIGHT 93 - The Biggest 911 Smoking Gun!

Way to change the post there.

Because when it is CONFIRMED as destroyed they change the number and use it again. But that is not the ONLY time the number is changed. The owner of the aircraft can change it just about any time they want to as long as they pay the registration fees, and the new number is not in use.

[edit on 5/2/2008 by Zaphod58]

Originally posted by Zaphod58
The plane is registered in the COUNTRY OF THE AIRLINE THAT OWNS IT.

Yes so if an Airbus is registered in another country it could have the same tail number as 1 here in the US.

Way to change your post too.



[edit on 2-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]

What's the point of leaving my post up if it doesn't make sense, since it was a reply to YOUR post stating that Airbus is British and therefore won't have a US registration number?

And what we are saying, for the third time is AIRCRAFT REGISTERED IN THE UNITED STATES WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME NUMBER EVEN IF THEY ARE DIFFERENT TYPES. Even if they're registered in another country the chances of finding the same number are almost non-existant because every country is different. Most European countries use letters, Asian countries use a combination of letters and numbers. The US is the only country that I've seen that uses almost exclusively numbers, with just two letters at the end.

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by Zaphod58
The plane is registered in the COUNTRY OF THE AIRLINE THAT OWNS IT.

Yes so if an Airbus is registered in another country it could have the same tail number as 1 here in the US.

Way to change your post too.



[edit on 2-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]

ULTIMA.....airplanes registered in other countries, have different registration numbers. For example, airplanes registered in Canada will have something like 'C-GWAM' See, the initial 'C' denotes Canadian registry.....and they use all letters. So does Germany....'G-DEWE' I'm just making up registrations, for clarity.

Doesn't matter what company manufactured the airplane.....BTW, France uses the 'F'.....big surprise!! LOL!!!

WW

Here are examples of different registration number styles.

British (just for a little humor):



French:



Japanese (closest to the US but starts with JA and ends with just J):



Korean:

Originally posted by weedwhacker
ULTIMA.....airplanes registered in other countries, have different registration numbers.

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Here are examples of different registration number styles.

Just hold on i am trying to find the information i saw on matching tail numbers.

I have tons of information to go through.

[edit on 2-5-2008 by ULTIMA1]

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ULTIMA, don't know if you're a fan of Star Trek.....there is a really, really good episode from 'Voyager' titled 'The Voyager Conspiracy' where Seven of Nine downloads all of the crew's logs.....and the data so overwhelms her, that she begins to see a conspiracy around every corridor!

Going further back in the Star Trek lexicon, is a Next Generation episode, titled 'The Drumhead'. Again, similar story, but this time a washed-up has been of an Admiral is convinced there is a conspiracy on board the Enterprise, and holds a 'kangaroo court'....

Are you getting my gist here? While it's important to dig for the truth, just be careful, when you dig, that you don't dig too deep a hole!!!

In other words, please keep your perspective, as you dig....sorry for the awkward analogies, best I could do on short notice!!!

Best, WW

Here is a list of various countries, their prefix codes, and suffix styles. Counting the US there are 6 that use letters and numbers after the prefix. US airlines that I have worked with have all had a two digit code after their numbers. That means that there are at most 5 other countries that would POSSIBLY have the same letters and numbers as a US airline.

An aircraft registration is a unique alphanumeric string that identifies an aircraft, in similar fashion to a licence plate on an automobile. In accordance with the Convention on International Civil Aviation all aircraft must be registered with a national authority (such as the FAA or Transport Canada), and furthermore, they must carry proof of this registration in the form of a legal document called a Certificate of Registration at all times when in operation. Most countries also require the aircraft registration to be imprinted on a permanent fireproof plate mounted on the fuselage for the purposes of post-fire/post-crash aircraft accident investigation.

Because airplanes typically display their registration numbers on the aft fuselage just forward of the tail, in earlier times more often on the tail itself, the registration is often referred to as the "tail number". In the United States, the registration number is also referred to as an "N-number", as it starts with the letter N.

Although each aircraft registration is unique, some, but not all countries allow it to be re-used when the current aircraft has been sold, destroyed or retired. For example N3794N is currently assigned to a Mooney M20F. It had been previously assigned to a Beechcraft Bonanza (specifically, the aircraft in which Buddy Holly was killed). Also note that individual aircraft may be assigned different registrations during its existence. This can be either the aircraft changes ownership, state of registration changes or in some countries like the United States for vanity reasons.

en.wikipedia.org...

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Zaph, not all US airlines have a two-letter code at the end of their N-numbers....for instance, UAL tries to buy up N-numbers and get either a UA or a U at the end....AAL, of course, wants the AA or A....USAir, US, etc.

Continental has a different plan....the last three digits of the N number usually conform to the 'ship' number....when possible.

At Continental, the first numeral '2' denotes (now) a B777

if it's a '3', then it's a B737-300. If it's a '6', then it's a B737-500 (don't ask me why)

A '7' for a B737-700, a '8' for the B737-800.....etc, etc....

The B757's start with a '1'....it is all arbitrary, this 'in-house' numbering system, it is used to denote airframes, and has nothing to do with Nationalistic Registration requirements, of course, except to help track each airplane, not only in Maintenance records, but in Dispatch and crew assignments, etc, etc....

Maybe this is part of the "layperson's" confusion about the events of 9/11??

The kind of mis-information and mis-direction that can occur, because many, many different disciplines need to understand their specific field....and someone who doesn't understand that field, comes in and makes assumptions.....then rumors get started....based on false assumptions.

Heck!! Wars have been started the same way!!!!

Just some thoughts.....WW

Almost all of the ones that I worked around used a 2 letter code at the end. There were the occasional planes that didn't, usually bought from another airline that didn't, and hadn't been changed yet, but most of the ones I dealt with had SOME two digit code at the end.

I have seen a bunch that didn't, but usually after I got out of the industry and got back to the mainland.

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Zaph, you are obviously very observant!!

BTW, hope all is well with you, and your loved ones....we tend to chat on and on about past issues, and forget the here and now....

Just wanted to state that, for the record.

Sorry if I violated your privacy......

Regards....Tim

More of a habit than anything. When we'd get a bunch of planes in I'd look at the tail numbers so I could write them down, and figure out which ones were still coming for when we got back to update the board. So now when I'm around planes I tend to glance at registration numbers.

Yeah, things are going good so far, it's a matter of maintaining now, and getting things back on track. That's the hard part.

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Glad to hear it, Zaph!!!

One day, I hope to meet you....you are, indeed, a great person!!!

WW

Originally posted by weedwhacker
and the data so overwhelms her, that she begins to see a conspiracy around every corridor!

Since when is looking for the truth a conspiracy?

Oh by the way the official story is based on a conspiracy.

Of course there was no fuel fire or any fuel on site because......



There was no plane.

No fuel
No fire
No parts
No Plane
NO DOUBT.

THe wing scars were there prior to 911. There is no proof of a plane crashing in Shanksville.

Not one official source can prove a plane crashed in shanksville nor will they point out where the wings, fuel, stabilizer, fuselage etc went.

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Ivan, again.....you just posted a picture, looks like an aerial shot from a news helicopter???

It is very evidently the mark of an airplane that went almost straight in!!!

If there is nothing incendiary, then there will be no fire....small burns, yes, but no raging fire.....

Wasn't the ground, in the area, soft and almost sandy?

If you go camping, what's one of the best ways to but out your campfire, besides water? Sand....

Fire needs oxygen to burn. It requires a huge amount of suffiecient oxygen to sustain....

That's why we have Halon Fire Extinguishers on airplanes today....Halon displaces the Oxygen, the fire gets snuffed. We still carry the old CO2 extinguishers as well, but Halon works way better, and doesn't have the potential for freezer burns to your hand, if you hold the nozzle wrongly.

The H2O extinguishers are only in the passenger cabin, since you don't want to spray water in the cockpit....water and electricity are a bad combination.

Thing about the Halon, of course, is it displaces O2....hence, we have the 'Hoods' that are required, now, on every commercial airplane operating in the US....Put the hood on, pull two cords, you get pure O2 so you can fight the fire, with Halon, and not succomb.....

Have you ever played with model rockets??? When they crash into the sand, on the beach, they snuff out immediately.....

You need to get out and play!!!

People, people, people. Don't you realize 9/11 never happened!!! It is all a conspiracy!!!

reply to post by im_being_censored

Skeptics, any logical explanation for my post in the above link?

reply to post by ULTIMA1

You can find all the info you need from the source www.faa.gov...

Using any picture..... Has anyone official source pointed out if there is any imprints letft behind from the crash such as wings or stabilizers or did all it leave was a missile crater?


No?

Thats what I thought.

Flight 93 was a crash simulation exercise. The crater was probaly caused by a cruise missile or bomb.