Muslim helps Jews attacked on New York subway

Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
What I thought was stupid is that one of the "christians" said, "Hannukah, oh, that's the day the Jews killed Jesus." What? You have got to be freaking kidding me!! Like I always say, "Christians" have a tendency of blowing off at the mouth about belief systems they know absolutely nothing about...

If one is that freaking stupid, just keep your trap shut!!!

so dont bash the muslims, but bash the christians, super logic

Firstly, they weren't bashing the Muslim, they were bashing the Jew... Secondly, I am not biased in one direction or the other.. I think all three Abrahamic religions have caused nothing but trouble in this world and they are throwing it currently into WW3...

Originally posted by orangetom1999

Actually ..as a historical record the Jewish leadership did kill Jesus by getting the Romans involved and they in turn..turned it over to the Jewish leadership who traded him in a death sentance with a convicted person named Barabas.

Actually, the HOLIDAY of HANNUKAH didn't have anything to do with that. The girl's statement was beyond idiotic and just showed, yet once again, that Christians comment on belief ssystems which they have absolutely no understanding of whatsoever. I have seen it time and time and time again.. By the way, that is coming for the mouth of a CHRISTIAN. A disgruntled one, but one nonetheless.

[edit on 13-12-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Originally posted by Bunch
Could not agree more!!, it just outrageous that the same people that slander other members for making generalization about muslims, then come out in force and paint all of us Christians with the same brush.



[edit on 13-12-2007 by Bunch]

Really, when have you ever, EVER, seen me post anything positive about the Islamic religion? When? You have me confused with someone else, apparently.

reply to post by Djarums


Not very Christian looking...

You're right.. The chick looks like she'd stab as quick as look at ya.. The other two guys, well, they look like "thug" wannabes as well.

[edit on 13-12-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

Her statement of "Hanukah is when the Jews killed Jesus" has nothing to do with her being a bad Christian, it has to do with her being an idiot.

I realize many of us are taught the lesson of "Don't judge a book by it's cover" when growing up, and I generally try not to make comments based on how people look, but I'm sorry... this is how these folks present themselves, and clearly their actions back up my assumptions that they are unintelligent.

I'll leave you with the funniest statement of the article from the Daily News. One of the guys arrested for this attack (the guy on the left in the pic I posted) was recently convicted of a violent attack on a black person. His defense? "How can I be a racist, I'm a member of the bloods!"

Amazing.

Originally posted by Djarums

They look like those hypocritical gangster types that wear crosses yet act in some of the most un-Christlike fashion ever. I've had people like that tell me I was going to Hell and trying to convert me.

The hypocrisy drives me insane but makes me laugh too.

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
reply to post by Herman

 

I don't know about you but I'd rather hear this from the media in lue of the irrelevant iranian diatribe.

But that's just me.

AAC

It's a little insulting to me, actually. I mean it's a nice story and everything, but it's not as if, in our country, Muslims and Jews are running around trying to kill each other all the time. Where I work, we get customers from all over the world pretty frequently, and never once have I heard a mean word exchange or a fight break out. The worst thing that I've seen happen is when I told a lady Merry Christmas, and she responded by telling me that I'm wrong in saying this, and I should be saying "Happy Holidays." I asked her what she celebrated, she said Hanukkah, so I said "Happy Hanukkah." That was the end of it. No big deal.

I don't mean to say it's insulting in a direct way, or that I'm offended by the story. It's kind of like when somebody tells you "Great job!" for doing something really easy and simple. It makes you wonder how they look at you the rest of the time.

Originally posted by Realtruth
If there were only one world religion or no religion at all we would be picking on other differences like, physical characteristics or economical status.

Anything to focus attention on others and not ourselves. Has anyone noticed this?

Yes. Psychologist have long noticed this. It's called fundamental attribution error, a concept under the attribution theory of psychology.

In attribution theory, the fundamental attribution error (also known as correspondence bias or overattribution effect) is the tendency for people to over-emphasize dispositional, or personality-based, explanations for behaviors observed in others while under-emphasizing situational explanations. In other words, people have an unjustified tendency to assume that a person's actions depend on what "kind" of person that person is rather than on the social and environmental forces influencing the person. Overattribution is less likely, perhaps even inverted, when people explain their own behavior; this discrepancy is called the actor-observer bias.

Originally posted by Kacen

They look like those hypocritical gangster types that wear crosses yet act in some of the most un-Christlike fashion ever. I've had people like that tell me I was going to Hell and trying to convert me.

The hypocrisy drives me insane but makes me laugh too.

Is there a specific way we Christians supposed to dress? Guess I miss that memo.

I dress just like that too! But look better though.

reply to post by Bunch


Kacen was talking about the way they act, not the way they dress. Unless I'm misinterpreting his post.

Originally posted by Herman
Why is this news? Are there people that actually think that all Muslims and Jews hate each other? What's going to be the next story, "White man is saved from being hit by car by black man! Amazing!"?

Actually I see what you're saying. It is rediculous that it has to be news. So many are drunken in the illusions of "us and "them".

If this news actually helped anyone think differently, I feel a great deal of pity for them and their outlook. But at least they're learning.

reply to post by Djarums


the chavs have arrived in america

but seriously good to see some cival courage out there

That's exactly what I thought, this shouldn't have to be news at all. It's just one man helping another one. The fact that these two men have different religions makes it news. That's a bit weird, except if you know where this came from (which we all do).

One the other side it makes me happy when I finally hear a story on the news where muslims aren't portrayed as terrorists. A lot of people whom I'd like to call my friends are muslims. I always seem to get along very well with muslims because I like their good manners and polite behaviour.

In the end, if I had to choose between a message like this or a terrorist message in the news then ofcourse it's clear what I would choose

It's interesting that the faith of people involved in this is brought up (much as race would have been if we were talking during the time of Martin Luther King or Malcolm X). Is it not possible that the guy intervened because he saw three other human beings being attacked for nothing? Their faith, race, gender etc. was irrelevant to him - he just knew it'd be common decency.

Not that it matters much. but I do not think the Hanukkah comment made by those kids was meant to be taken as seriously. It was something ignorant that was said in order to put fear into the hearts of those who they were about to attack. To attack someone, whether that is a war or a one on one fistfight, you have to demonize and demoralize the other side.

Originally posted by Bunch
[Is there a specific way we Christians supposed to dress? Guess I miss that memo.

I dress just like that too! But look better though.

I have to say,when I think Christian, I don't think of a person who is dressed in baggy jeans and a bandana on their head...

Originally posted by NoSuchAgency
That's exactly what I thought, this shouldn't have to be news at all. It's just one man helping another one. The fact that these two men have different religions makes it news. That's a bit weird, except if you know where this came from (which we all do).

Not when you look at the current state of the world. This whole "war on terrorism" is nothing more or less than a religious war..

As far as I am concerned, it is a renewed crusade by a couple of religions who feel like they are losing influence on the world...

[edit on 13-12-2007 by SpeakerofTruth]

This is a heart warming story which illustrates what everybody should already know,

There are good people and there are bad people - regardless of religion, race, nationality, intelligence, financial status etc.


[edit on 13-12-2007 by CyberTruth]

Originally posted by kdial1
reply to post by watch_the_rocks

 

I have worked in alot of different countries as a defense contractor (Egypt, Israel, Spain, DuBai, Poland, Singapore) just to name a few and I all of these people from different religions and backrounds are very nice and hospitable people. Like I said the news just reports the bad stuff and of course people that don't get out and rely on the news are oblivious and believe whatever the news says.....it is sad really.

I know what you are saying and it is probably true but you tell the societies you have been open with the Bible in your hand and saying Jesus is the saviour, they will crucify you and throw you in jail for speaking up.

But they can build Mosques and prayer rooms and change Hospital beds round and refuse what they like according to their peaceful religion.
But the same would never happen if you were to do the same. They don’t allow crosses up in their societies and now we are not either, so who loses?

Guess the ones who put a ban on Christ end up winning even if it's the modern Romans keeping the peace. First Jesus died on the cross for speaking his mind and now we ban the cross because he showed history an example of what intolerance is. Either way the Western values lose, guess there are good Muslims and other religious people but in the end the compromise is our loss not theirs.

But the worlds different nations have compromising solutions and non compromising. A report of a story like this from America? What do we expect it's a democracy try saying that in Saddams Iraq or even China.
The world is not yet fair and square but hopefully one day.

[edit on 13-12-2007 by The time lord]

What a way to celebrate the Christmas spirit! Beat the *** out of your fellow men. Anti-Semitism, just what Jesus would have wanted (sarcasm). Actually, I doubt the perpetrators were motivated by any religious convictions. They just wanted a fight. Let them spend Christmas in jail.