Alien City On Mars? Check This Out!

More images from that general area.

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M0900893

These are slightly to the north of the image posted by Mikesingh.
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This one shows almost exactly the same are but with a better resolution.
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Originally posted by ArMaP
This one shows almost exactly the same are but with a better resolution.

Hmmm they call them PROTO Polygons part of a lattice work...

Interesting

I'm sorry it just looks too "Bite-ish" to me. It reaks of computer editing!

sorry wrong thread

[edit on 18/3/2008 by internos]

Only yesterday did I managed to find a higher resolution image from the area shown on the opening post.

The following image shows more or less the area where the supposed city is on the image from the opening post.

As the original has a resolution of 5 metres per pixel and this was resized to 20%, this image has a resolution of 25 metres per pixel.



This is a link for the bigger, 5 metres per pixel resolution, image.

On the following image, the red rectangle in the centre of the crater marks the place that the next image shows.


This image is a 0.8% view of the original.


And this is a 100% view of a small area of the above photo. With a 25.8 cm/pixel that means that the image shows an area of 178x146 metres.


This is the same view as above but in false colour (made with the infra-red, red and green+blue channels)


And not a city in sight.

reply to post by ArMaP


Thanks for the images ArMap! Here's a zoom from one of the images you posted...A statue of a fox in a fox hole!!



Cheers!


[edit on 25-3-2008 by mikesingh]

With all of the different opinions aired here, I decided to track the process of the pictures from the ESA Mars Explorer, just to know more about it. This is what I found.

The HRSC is a camera assembly with a linescan camera with a line resolution of more than 5000 pixels at about 10 meters per pixel, and a super high resolution camera with a resolution of 1024 X 1032, which is used sparingly for super high resolution images at about 2.5 meters per pixel.

The raw linescan and SHR data is fed to a bank of 4 COMPRESSION units, where the PICTURE is COMPRESSED using JPEG COMPRESSION or PIXEL SUMMATION. The resulting IMAGE is then stored in memory.

The Mars Explorer has a 6 to 8 hour window every day to send data, and will do so at a rate of about 30 to 40Kb per second.

So what does this mean?

It means that even the raw unaltered data received by ESA is a highly compressed image which has been lossy(losing colours and accuracy but gaining smaller size) compressed by the spacecraft itself.

Then comes processing in Germany and possibly another Jpeg compression to make it into an internet friendly size.

The images shown and promoted by people who desparately wants to believe(Mars Anomaly Research) are cropped, resized, recoloured images already HEAVILY JPEG compressed atleast once and then compressed again and stretched onto a 3D model for our viewing pleasure. And that's before they are cropped and resized and recoloured by people who want to believe there is something there.

Also, I can't say for sure, but I believe that the black and white image is actually not a line scan image, but a Super High Resolution image, which is compressed using a PIXEL SUMMATION algorithm.

Seriously folks, we are discussing compression artifacts and nothing more. When large data are reduced to single digit percentages using lossy compression, you get compression artifacts like this.

berlinadmin.dlr.de...
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www.esa.int...
en.wikipedia.org...

[edit on 18-4-2008 by aaa2500]

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How DARE you bring logic into this thread! How are we supposed to get excited about a barren planet when you take our precious JPEG compression artifacts away? Talk about heartless! :-P

I think ATS needs a massive refresher course in exactly what JPEG, or indeed any lossy compression, can do to an image - it would stop these ridiculous "ZOMG!!!1eleven1" threads dead in their tracks. And that "Electric Aliens" guy, too. If they listen, that is.

Originally posted by dave420

I think ATS needs a massive refresher course in exactly what JPEG, or indeed any lossy compression, can do to an image - it would stop these ridiculous "ZOMG!!!1eleven1" threads dead in their tracks. And that "Electric Aliens" guy, too. If they listen, that is.

You know your right We will all just stipulate that they are all compression artifacts and just stop posting and go away... Then there would be no new "conspiracy masters' like Mike Singh and very few topics of interest that make ATS what it is...

But you and yours would be so happy.. (though I am not sure what you would talk about considering people like you never actually contribute ANYTHING)

Yup we'll all stop this nonsense right now and go away...



Ummm NOT

[edit on 18-4-2008 by zorgon]

Hey mike I like the pics, but the pixels looks crazy..too crazy so I tried something out

veimages.gsfc.nasa.gov...
Thats a picture of high altitude of mountains in Tajikistan so I zoomed in at %800 around under the lake and I was getting pixels but not as bad as the ones you had

Your picture

When I zoom in on the mountains in Tajistan I get more pixels probably because there is more detail there.



So if mars is as plain and dull as everyone says why are there so many pixels right there, shouldn't it be flat like the Tajikistan plains when zoomed in?

reply to post by roman_s


It would be extremely difficult to have another image look like the one Mikesingh posted on the opening post, that is not a normal image.

This image

is the result of changing the brightness, contrast and hue of this image


The image above is a computer generated 3D rendering using the stereoscopic photos taken by Mars Express as height data and this image as the "texture" applied over the 3D model.

The previous image itself is made of three different images, one for each colour in the RGB model, red, green and blue.

I think (but haven't really reached a definite conclusion) that the reason for those "stripes" is the fact that the original image had too few colours, and when stretched over the 3D rendered image their pixels were too stretched and created those shapes.

Edit to add: who says Mars is plain and dull?

[edit on 1/5/2008 by ArMaP]

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good, work, ArMaP.
no city in sight. exactly what was said earlier.



cheers

LOL, sry folks but this isn't jpeg pixelation. If you "debunkers" took the time an examined the -->2

reply to post by jainatorres


city built by the EL
EL is greek polation derived from angels and humans
captain of those poplation was jeus (jupiter-alias Dias)
Apollo is an El who make war with the other evil creatures NEFILIM
MAKE THE ANCIENT WAR AND DESTROY MARS NAMED BEFORE ERITHREA.

This thread postulated terrain farming....or structures....it went all over the realm of possiblities.

Let's say, if humans disappeared tomorrow, and this planet was explored by an ET race, millions of years later.....what would the ET archeoligists think about the Great Wall of China?

Would there be anything of Human constructs left???

Planets tend to erode....active planets, anyway.

I would hope to be proven wrong.....

Originally posted by SouthernBelle82
It does look like the Chinese rice fields. I'm definitley interested to find out too if it's just natural reason's or what. Maybe it's a grand canyon type of thing?

I knew the Chinese conquered Mars a long time ago.

It's the original Hollywood... and here I though Hollywood was a sewer in California. How silly of me...

reply to post by Straight Razor


Straight....I grew up in LA.

Your post is insulting.

Originally posted by atlscribe
I knew the Chinese conquered Mars a long time ago.

Not only that but according to BUZZ ALDRIN

The people on the Moon that John and I have talked about SPEAK CHINESE

Now I thought German if not Russian or English

But hey Buzz was up there so he would know right?

www.revver.com...

Notice he says the Chinese will go BACK to the moon

[edit on 2-6-2008 by zorgon]

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Zorgon.....please explain, to the ATS audience, what 'Buzz' Aldrin meant.

Did he mis-speak, about the Chinese going "back to the Moon".....

What exactly, is the point of including that video???

Did "Buzz" see beings who he mistook for Chinese?? While on the Moon????

When, did China actually mount any space missions to the Moon, in the 1960s???

If "Buzz" saw aliens with slanted eyes, did he just think the were Chinese???

Could he tell the difference between Japanese and Chinese???

Or Cantonese??

Just asking....