Ramblings of Finnish school shooter

Originally posted by Radekus



Thanks for the save, I enjoy reading these,
only the intelligencja of society can understand
this man's words. The rest will only feel resentment,
for they do not understand! They could not understand!
They are weak.

There is nothing intelligent about it or your comment.

Does it make you feel tough to write you agree with this murderer?



[edit on 7-11-2007 by Grimholt]

A finnish friend told me that someone in our MUD was scanning police radio and that he had indeed shot himself. He's in critical condition as far as i know. I just hope he survives, so he can live with his mistakes and failed attempt at life and suicide, instead of getting the easy way out.

I heard he's braindead now.

Attention he wanted and that he got. I think the best punishment for him would be to forget he ever existed. I hope this moron/failure doesn't affect or build an image of finnish people in general.

The pulled movie is on liveleak along with other coverage

link here

This is very sad and seems to be a more and more common occurrence, although I don't know if this is truly the case.

Hopefully the shooter will live a long and miserable life as a vegetable, trapped in his mind and tortured by his conscience.

Originally posted by Radekus
reply to post by Count

 

Thanks for the save, I enjoy reading these,
only the intelligencja of society can understand
this man's words. The rest will only feel resentment,
for they do not understand! They could not understand!
They are weak.

Dude there is no intelligence in cold blood murder. This person was clearly a coward, and shooting a school full of innocent people up proves it. An intelligent, brave person would find his way out of his problems or seek help. Besides the things he talks about just contradict each other.
I’ve seen heroin addicts become first class citizens (used to work as a nurse’s assistant) because they had the guts to do it, now that was brave and intelligent. I would pick them over him any day…
Sincere feelings go out for the families of the victims and even that of the shooter as no father or mother deserves to have to bury their kid and thing shouldn’t have to come to this.

He is no more responsible for this shooting than his gun was responsible. Guaranteed, this guy was another mind-controlled perpetrator/patsy.

Like I sez, the acid test will be the new laws for the public's "safety." Then you know the fix will be in.





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“I think this is the Columbine client,” (defense attorney)Staurset said. “I think his background is exactly like all the high school shooters”
--on Tacoma Mall Shooter Dominick Sergio Maldonado, 20 (11-20-05)

[edit on 7-11-2007 by starviego]

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


He wrote in his online diary that we shouldn't blame music, movies, friends etc. and that he is the only one to blame. Interesting to see what happens though with media all over this.

Well surely he will lend more power to the system instead of leaving a crack in it, or inspiring others to "revolution" If you read his manifesto you'll see the irony, in that he wanted to achieve is the opposite of what he is going to create. As Finnish parliment will seek to erode civil liberties in order to protect the public (it cannot be done) But i cannot see a conspiracy here, mind control you say?

But yeah it's the start of the slippery slope. With metal detectors in schools and stab proof clothing, a climate of fear is introduced, once that fear is there, people are willing to allow all kinds of erosions of their basic rights, just so they can have the illusion of safety. In reality of course there is no way to be safe from crazies who wish to do you harm. Life has a roulette wheel of random ways to kill you, but media attention is on the deliberate and not on the random, and in the end it's surely the random which gets 99.9% of us


[edit on 7-11-2007 by unnamedninja]

Originally posted by starviego
He is no more responsible for this shooting than his gun was responsible. Guaranteed, this guy was another mind-controlled perpetrator/patsy.

Like I sez, the acid test will be the new laws for the public's "safety." Then you know the fix will be in.

don't you just love being ignored, starviego ?

let me put it this way: ain't it strange how all of these shootings follow the same blueprint? now 'enhanced' by internet video services. inevitably, the shooter commits suicide and everytime you take a closer look, discrepancies pop up.

take two examples: Columbine (alledgedly planted dozens of bombs while shooting the place up - imagine the bulk and weight of so many bombs) and Tasmania. the perp killed everyone with headshots, some of them on running people, but once the police arrived, the patsy could not hit a barn, point blank.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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i am not sure about mind control, what i strongly suspect is that these shootings are orchestrated, and if i'm wrong the real course of events is constantly being covered up.

[edit on 7.11.2007 by Long Lance]

Few facts:

Criminal used a .22cal Sig Sauer Mosquito and shot all victims (8) with several shots, so no marksman here. And please do not turn this into a conspiracy, unless you know and understand the context of the country this happened in.

I feel sorry for the victims and wish strength to their families.

Ps. The criminal Pekka-Eric Auvinen is still reported alive and there is hope of getting him convivted and punished. (dumbass tried to kill himself by a .22, a hard thing to do)

I'm fairly sure that nothing big will be done here after this. Most of us aknowledge the fact that this was a sick thing by a sick individual. We had bombing of Myyrmanni a few years ago. It was also a tragedy, but I can't remember anything that was changed after that. These things happen and metal detectors in schools would just provoke more crazy people.

EDIT: The guy is dead now.

[edit on 7/11/2007 by Corvx]

Of course the more media coverage this gets, the more this guy will revered as a martyr for the misguided youth.

Yes, he is responsible for his actions but inevitably movies, music and video games do in effect lend to the attitudes and also allow these individuals a world of fantasy that often helps take them over the top. With musical messages of death and destruction combined with games of killing and dominance it is no wonder that many see these so called sources of entertainment as catalysts to an already misguided mind. Again I say that yes he did carry out his plan and by that end is ultimately responsible.

On a different note, by wishing him to live as a vegetable many need to reexamine who they are and rise above it. Having an attitude of torturing those that do harm is not really showing your best side.

It is a terrible tragedy and my prayers go out to the families of those slain.

the new saying is "suicide is played out. if you are going to die, take people with you."

Update:
The shooter is now reported dead, well at least he did suffer for hours...

He's none of those things he said he was anymore. He's a dead murderer now. That's it.

I really dont understand why people do this sort of thing. I would kind of expect it here in America, but not Finland. As for the music on his youtube video they will of course be goin after that type of music which is a bunch of BS. I myself listen to all kinds of music (except country lol), and I would never think to do this sort of thing. My heart goes out to all the innocent victims in this massacre, and i hope this guy rots in hell, if there is one.

PS. If they do find out if he was on some type of psycho drugs this type of thing is why they should do away with them. I know quite a few people thats had them prescribed to them and it doesnt help them at all

This is very sad 9 people died including himself. I think i know how he feelt though.

reply to post by jbondo


you know the music, movies, and games really are'nt a scapegoat. I listen to rap, heavy metal, play games like hitman, halo, manhunt, watch movies like, Full Metal Jacket, and Natural Born Killers. And theres no way i could even hurt a fly. Something was just flat out wrong with this guy. As a quote from Full Metal jacket. Maybe mommy and daddy didnt show him enough attention as a child. I always say blame it on the parents, although that may not be the case

Originally posted by sturmgeist
Long live the revolution... revolution against the system, which enslaves not only the majority of weak-minded masses but also the small minority of strong-minded and intelligent individuals! If we want to live in a different world, we must act. We must rise against the enslaving, corrupted and totalitarian regimes and overthrow the tyrants, gangsters and the rule of idiocracy. I can’t alone change much but hopefully my actions will inspire all the intelligent people of the world and start some sort of revolution against the current systems. The system discriminating naturality and justice, is my enemy. The people living in the world of delusion and supporting this system are my enemies.

Right? The first part seems spot on to me, But I don't see how he expects to overthrow tyrants and gangsters by killing "robots" at his school. I mean, if you truly think as he does wouldn't you want to go after the 3% manipulative humans?

I assume he put himself in one of the 3% categories, where I suppose many of us on this site would place ourselves (although I don't agree with his breakdown, I think that each individual is simply on a different stage of his karmic cycle, that is why many are unable to see clearly, we have many lives to live and many things to learn.), but he says that he was consumed by hate.

I find it vexing because I agree with many of his sentiments but I am dominated by love. I feel that ultimately love will shape and change the colors of this world to the will of those who let it.

I agree, no conspiracy here… just some psycho loon who shot some people because of his sad existence. In its context there is nothing to link it with a conspiracy. This reminds me of all the Europeans who said “this would never happen here”. The real problem here I believe is the relative ease with which this people who clearly have a serious mental disorder are getting hold of firearms. But I guess you can’t beat the odds with this type of thing…

*EDIT
I’ve always been against the video games, music and movies argument. I think the environment might incentivize an individual intensions, but only if the problem is already there. I can say this because I’ve played violent games and seen allot of violent movies (don’t know what violent music even sounds like… ) and I’ve never even had the slightest wish to go and kill someone at all. And most of my friends are just the same story, luckily.

[edit on 7-11-2007 by TheDarkFlame]