Real Cure for Cancer! Possibly aids too?

Originally posted by niidji
He used pulsing with low voltage, magnetic field pulses, ozonating and colloidal silver water.

Check out blood electrification as well linked with curing aids with a simple current through the blood.

On a side note, going back to the amount of crap in vaccines, during the early 1990s, the World Health Organization (WHO) had been overseeing massive vaccination campaigns against tetanus in a number of countries, among them Nicaragua, Mexico, and the Philippines. In October 1994, HLI received a communication from its Mexican affiliate, the Comite' Pro Vida de Mexico, regarding the country's anti-tetanus campaign. Suspicious of the campaign protocols, the Comite' obtained several vials of the vaccine and had them analyzed by chemists. Some of the vials were found to contain human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), a naturally occurring hormone essential for maintaining a pregnancy.

Here are the known facts concerning the tetanus vaccination campaigns in Mexico and the Philippines:

* Only women are vaccinated, and only the women between the ages of 15 and 45. (In Nicaragua the age range was 12-49.) But aren't men at least as likely as young women to come into contact with tetanus? And what of the children? Why are they excluded?

* Human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG) hormone has been found in the vaccines. It does not belong there -- in the parlance of the O.J. Simpson murder trial, the vaccine has been "contaminated."

* The vaccination protocols call for multiple injections -- three within three months and a total of five altogether. But, since tetanus vaccinations provide protection for ten years or more, why are multiple inoculations called for?(3)

* WHO has been actively involved for more than 20 years in the development of an anti-fertility vaccine utilizing hCG tied to tetanus toxoid as a carrier -- the exact same coupling as has been found in the Mexican-Philippine-Nicaragua vaccines.(4)

Also,

Have women in the Philippines, and possibly elsewhere, surreptitiously been used as guinea pigs in an international anti-fertility campaign?

A new medical study in the Philippines suggests that may well be the case.

A recent study conducted by the Philippine Medical Association on behalf of the Philippine Department of Health revealed that almost 20 percent of the tetanus vaccine sampled positive for the hormone human chorionic gonadotrophin (hCG), according to Human Life International. Vaccines containing the hormone immunize women not only against tetanus but also against pregnancy by inducing the body's immune system to attack the hormone needed to bring an unborn child to term.

SOURCE

Also in Africa:

UNICEF's campaign to immunize Nigeria's children with polio is accused of being a front for sterilizing the country. Dr. Haruna Kaita, a pharmaceutical scientist in Zaria, took samples of the vaccine to labs in India for analysis. Using technology recommended by the World Health Organization (WHO), he found evidence of serious contamination. He stated that, "some of the things we discovered in the vaccines are harmful, toxic; some have direct effect on the human reproductive system...I and some other professional colleagues who are Indians who were in the lab could not believe the discovery." A Nigerian government doctor tried to convince him that his discoveries would have no bearing on human reproduction.

Dr. Kaita's reasons for his conclusion were, "These manufacturers or promoters of these harmful things have a secret agenda which only further research can reveal. Secondly they have always taken us in the third world for granted, thinking we don't have the capacity, knowledge and equipment to conduct tests that would reveal such contaminants. And very unfortunately they also have people to defend their atrocities within our mist, and worst still some of these are supposed to be our own professionals who we rely on to protect our interests."

A seperate link below on why Africa fears Western Doctors:

HERE

Africa has a history of Western doctors who claim to provide health care while in reality “administrating deadly agents.” The most infamous example is Wouter Basson, who killed hundreds through injecting poisons, but was never convicted. More recently, a Libyan court convicted a foreign physician and five nurses of infecting children with AIDS, before releasing the providers to Bulgaria. Many Africans did not hear the conclusion that the children had been infected long before the providers’ arrival on the continent.

As I posted on page 4, I researched very deeply into vaccines and no 'Mr.Doctor posts' above are going to fool me. I researched numerous facts and figures (as you can see from the direction to my other thread above) and it's scary what facts are linked with diseases and vaccines. Just scary. $426 million payout for a life killing illness? Keep the money thanks.

Very good topic and it's started a wonderful debate on what goes on in the World of chemistry and all things related to the health service.

Don't just stick your arm out next time you're expected to have 'a jab.'



[edit on 6-11-2007 by Arawn]

wow i must say this is the stuff of star trek once again next thing ya know tricorders that heal bulletwounds will be out in the field and prosttetics will be fully biological because you cant feel jack with plastic and anyone thats had sex will atest to it hahahaha

MANY LINKS about John Kanzius here:
John Kanzius Produces Hydrogen from Salt Water Using Radio Waves Using the same aparatus as for treating cancer Kanzius is able to burn water (with video link).

ditto:
Can water fuel world?

Contact John Kanzius:
In Erie, Pennsylvania for the summer months
email and phone # on file with Sterling D. Allan, who has permission to forward pertinent emails to John.

Sterling D. Allan
Office phone: 801-407-1292; Fax: 801-880-8322
Eagle Mountain, Utah, USA (near Salt Lake City)

Presently I don't have cancer, therefore I leave it to you guys to find out more...

[edit on 6-11-2007 by osaitax]

Annoyingly, the video from Youtube has just been removed
And it is back again ????



Flippin' heck!



[edit on 6-11-2007 by osaitax]

I would like to point out that whilst it is entirely possible to destroy organisms with sound frequencies it is that much harder to destroy something which is a imple protein string. Ie, a Virus. Even this in theory could be disrupted by the correct resonance for long enough at a strong enough signal. Think of a wine glass shattering on High C. You do actually need some volume, and a consistent rate.

The notion that an entire cancerous body could be destroyed in a few minutes is quite laughable in my opinion. When you begin to break apart cells, what happens? The broken cells will find themselves in the blood stream. Granted that it's next to impossible to kill them all instantly you now have active cancerous cells in your blood stream. Well done.

Similarly, I'd like to not that labelling this as the cure for aids is beyond laughable. The virus exists in many forms and stages, and has the ability to shift it's design somewhat once inside an organism. Aids virus --> Infects Cell --> Cells DNA is modified --> Cell is instructed by HIV's RNA component to replicate
In this fashion you now have several different variations of just the one virus in several different stages. The latter stages now resemble nothing of the newer stages, with not even the same active proteins. Now consider that AIDS is a retrovirus and will often produce several different varients within the one individual, and that up to 25% of the cells within the blood stream can be infected at any one time. Suddenly a frequency that's targeted at a particular area of the body, at a very particular frequency designed to break a single type of protein doesn't look so fantastic.
HIV within an individual will encounter a similar problem.

All this, without even beginning to poke holes in the documents whereby the facts are so contorted and the science so thin that it's nearly transparent. Calling cancer a virus? I beg to differ.

There may exist some theraputic effect for particular items here, but some of the claims have more holes than a sieve.

Many many years ago I used to work in a genetic laboratory. During the time I was there, AIDS, Cancer, certain effects of againg and the common cold itself were cured by various methods in the laboratory I was working at. It was only through the intervention of people high up in the AMA that literally threatened to kill not only the researchers that developed those cures, but their entire families as well, that these cures were never released beyond one very brief initial announcement. The descriptions of the tests talked about here are very reminiscent of how the experiments were conducted back then, and some of the names popping up are people who were working on similar projects, or who had contact with researchers in the lab I worked in. So I do not doubt that some of the results listed are real.

Needless to say, I quickly got out of the medical industry after seeing that that was the status quo.

in reply to anakaine:

The method described by Kanzius does not work with resonant frequencies, primarily.

edit:

the full patent text for the cancer treatment developed by Kanzius can be found here: World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) Overview

Kanzius Patent PDF

After starting to read the patent, the following points are clear:

The gold resp. carbon nano particles are absorbed by the growing cancer cells. (wrong. the nano particles are first merged with cancer antibodies)

Then! the nanonized antibodies are absorbed by the cancer cells.

The radio wave frequency stimulates (heats) the nano particles.
The nano particles are present in the cancer cells, bound to the antibodies.

Cancer cells don't like heat.

The cancer cells die after being exposed to the heated particles, which were excited by the radio wave radiation.

That's it.

It must be possible to reproduce the experiments,
that is the nature of science.

You don't get rich inventing a cure for cancer.

PS: Is there a lawyer here? Is it correct that a Patent allows anyone to rebuild a machine for the purpose of study. A patent fee is not aplicable, as long as no monetary gain is gained from using the technology?

[edit on 7-11-2007 by osaitax]

Originally posted by anakaine
Now consider that AIDS is a retrovirus and will often produce several different varients within the one individual, and that up to 25% of the cells within the blood stream can be infected at any one time.

I thought AIDS was an acronym for a Syndrome. Isn't HIV the retrovirus? You use the 2 interchangeably here, which is confusing, sorry.

1983 original AIDS definition (12 illnesses):
Pneumocystis pneumonia, Kaposi's Sarcoma*, toxoplasmosis, strongyloidosis, aspergillosis, cryptococcosis, candidiasis, cryptosporidiosis, cytomegalovirus, herpes simplex, progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy, lymphoma of the brain

1985 revised definition (seven more old illnesses added):
Mycobacterium avium complex, histoplasmosis, isosporiasis, Burkitt's lymphoma, immunoblsticlymphoma, candidiasis of the bronchi, trachea and lungs, and a positive HIV antibody test

1987 revised definition (six additional illnesses):
Encephalopathy, mycobacterium tuberculosis, wasting syndrome, coccidioidomycosis, cytomegalovirus retinitis, salmonella septicemia. HIV antibody test no longer required.

1987 revised definition (three more illnesses plus one surrogate marker):
Recurrent bacterial pneumonia, invasive cervical cancer, pulmonary tuberculosis, T cell count of less than 200 or less than 14% of total lymphocytes (non-illness)

In africa, it seems to be defined differently?!?

AIDS in Africa is almost unrecognizably different from AIDS in the West, so much so that if African patients suddenly switched continents, very few Africans would remain AIDS cases.

This is due to the existence of multiple AIDS definitions, one for Africa (the same for adults and children), one for adults in North America, Europe and Australia, one for children in these countries and one for Latin America.

Unlike the AIDS definition in the West, the WHO Bangui definition for Africa does not require immunological (T4 lymphocyte cell or antibody) tests or a specific disease diagnosis but consists largely of symptoms such as weight loss, diarrhoea, cough and fever.

For example, an African with diarrhoea, fever and persistent cough for longer than one month is, by definition, an AIDS case.

Hmmm, I don't think we even need Kanzius' machine to cure diarrhoea, fever and a persistent cough. A thorough cleanse, some good nutrition, some immune boosting herbs and a handful of fresh garlic cloves a day should take care of that - hey, I just discovered a cure for AIDS

[edit on 7-11-2007 by RogerT]

Originally posted by kokuryu
Many many years ago I used to work in a genetic laboratory. During the time I was there, AIDS, Cancer, certain effects of againg and the common cold itself were cured by various methods in the laboratory I was working at. It was only through the intervention of people high up in the AMA that literally threatened to kill not only the researchers that developed those cures, but their entire families as well, that these cures were never released beyond one very brief initial announcement. The descriptions of the tests talked about here are very reminiscent of how the experiments were conducted back then, and some of the names popping up are people who were working on similar projects, or who had contact with researchers in the lab I worked in. So I do not doubt that some of the results listed are real.

Needless to say, I quickly got out of the medical industry after seeing that that was the status quo.

This is priceless!!! And of course the government has deleted all proof that you worked there right?! It amazes me how people in the government still die from the same diseases we do...and they have the cure! Ah...you're right...it's not them who die...it's their clones...my bad...

Originally posted by Copernicus

I have also read that they can both create and remove tumors with this technology. The thing is, its bound to be used as a weapon before its used to treat people. No money in the cure, is it...

Until the world changes, it will always be more profitable to keep people sick.

Unfortunately, your correct.

Another possibility/example of why they won't bring a medicine out might be the drug DCA.

Scientists have known since 1930 that cancer cells use glycolysis instead of aerobic respiration for energy. In other words, they don’t turn on their mitochondria and burn their glucose with oxygen, as do normal cells; they just convert it to lactic acid. While glycolysis provides about fifteen times less energy per blood sugar molecule, it works under the oxygen-deprived conditions inside early tumors. It also has the advantage of bypassing the mitochondria entirely, which allows the cancer cells to suppress the cell’s self-destruct mechanisms.

DCA forces the cell to turn on its mitochondria. This was the primary medical use of DCA in the past, to treat patients with rare metabolic deficiencies. For a normal cell, being "forced" to turn on mitochondria isn’t such a big deal… they’re already on.

But for a cancer cell, the mitochondria are time bombs. When the cancer’s mitochondria turn on, they run out of control, creating high hydrogen peroxide levels inside the mitochondria. This leads to a cascade of chemical reactions that eventually activates two different self-destruct ("apoptosis") pathways in the cell.

SOURCE

this drug has been used for many years to treat rare metabolic disorders and is not patentable as a cancer treatment. Without patent protection, the pharmaceutical industry has no interest in investing millions in clinical trials, even though the drug's impact on cancer could be profound.



To understand how DCA works you must first understand that cancer cells often don't create the energy they need via normal channels. In a healthy cell, energy is mostly produced by mitochondria. In cancer cells, the mitochondria seem to shut down. In its place, cancer cells use an inefficient, cell-wide energy producing process called glycolysis--the same process that produces lactic acid and causes your muscles to cramp.

This drug could be an important treatment for cancer. However, in order to know if the drug is effective on cancer in humans, clinical trials need to be run. Since the drug is not patentable and can be produced very cheaply, pharmaceutical companies won't fund those clinical trials. The money will have to come from other sources: Government, charities, research foundations.

Will they fund the trials?

Just throwing another example into the mix.

[edit on 9-11-2007 by Arawn]

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Clinical trials for DCA ARE taking place:

www.newscientist.com...

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Good, but then it all boils down to who do you trust getting 'the truth' out there.

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oops...you're starting to sound like "kokuryu"...

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I guess that's not good right?!



Nah but seriously, the people in power can put anything they want out into the media controlled environment and unfortunately most people without a brain for themselves, believe it as 100% true.

I'm just wary on what comes out these days as true and false.

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Dude, I understand what you say...but I've always regarded medical conspiracies as people having a bad time understanding that science (thus medicine) can't have an answer to everything...every disease. Take cancer for example...more that 100 diseases in the same bag called 'cancer'. There is no cure for cancer because the term cancer is an over simplification...and we have won the war with some types of cancers...
So, when someone comes up and says: " X cures cancer! "...I just KNOW it is B.S. ...one molecule/herb/therapy/whatever will not be the answer to every type of cancer...not all cancers share the same molecular pathways (and not all types of cancer come to terms with the Warburg hypothesis)...each type of cancer is a world of it's own...and we will win...we are winning the war one by one...but it'll take time.

And please, to other ATS members...if the government had the cure for cancer...none of them (or their families) would get sick...let's just accept the fact that we are humans...science (medicine) advances slowly and only in the last 10 years has medicine started to understand molecular pathways and changed the way of research: from trial and error to targeted therapies...

Have a great day people...

Originally posted by Tom Bedlam

And I pretty much consider Rife to be a fraud.

Rife's frequencies of choice are in the ultraviolet region. Apparently this bacteria didn't get the message that Rife was a fraud, before he exploded.

Video

Some believe that the poor quality of the tube based signal generators that Rife was using were critical to the success of his program. I've noticed that the advertised Rife frequencies are all in the long wave area, which is not what Rife was using. The numbers are often just given as inputs to the signal generator that's used to modulate the higher frequency wave generator. Some use fluorescent tubes for the latter.

Unfortunately because they destroyed his hetereodyning (and possibly interferometric) microscope, we can't directly obtain the correct frequencies any longer. I do know of one German manufacturer who has a similar microscope, but he is not advertising it's full capabilities, since of course he'd be shut down. Medicine is run like the mafia.

Originally posted by matiascs

...one molecule/herb/therapy/whatever will not be the answer to every type of cancer...not all cancers share the same molecular pathways (and not all types of cancer come to terms with the Warburg hypothesis)...each type of cancer is a world of it's own...and we will win...we are winning the war one by one...but it'll take time.

Bro' you couldn't be more wrong.

There are quite a few natural healing modi that not only cure cancer but ANY disease or imbalance in the body.

The problem is you are not understanding health and healing, hence you think that cancer and other diseases must be waged war upon.

Curing disease is not about pills and potions and machines, it's about reversing the damaging life practices that caused the disease in the first place, and providing the best possible environment for the body to regain its natural state of health.

The standard allopathic drug modality of attempting to poison the body back to health is insane, and doesn't work. Best you can hope for is to make the symptoms go away for a while, or convert the symptoms into something less 'inconvenient'. That's not healing or curing.

The pharmacorps will never get it, and why should they when they have no real love for humanity and currently make billions by keeping the population in a state of drugged up apathy

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Again, you are treating a complex disease in a one-dimensional, childish way (no offense). Cancer doesn't always arise from "wrong" life practices...otherwise we wouldn't have pediatric leukemias, would we?

In your opinion, drugs only poison the body...and I do concur that xenochemicals can bring a myriad of secondary effects...BUT, I've also seen people their deathbeds suffering from Chronic Myelocitic Leukemia and being in total remission once started with Gleevec.

I do think that you are the one not getting it...disease is a lot more complicated that what you seem to understand...and the body is not perfect and cannot cure itself from everything...your statement about how the "pharm" industry has no love for humanity shows that you need to inform yourself, that everyone has family and loved ones...and the scientist have families and loved ones...and sadly, we still watch our loved ones die...

But yeah, you'll have another answer on how cancer can be cured and it's all covered up...knock yourself out...

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Pharmaceutical companies have little incentive to cure anything if they can't profit from it. These are businesses by the way. Some cures can not be patented and will never be developed. Even better than a cure is something that just masks the symptoms but for which the patient must suffer and buy the drug for the rest of their lives. If you can actually prevent the real cure from reaching the market place, in these cases, all the better.

Now I have no problem with a drug company wanting to make money. I do have a problem with a system that suppresses known cures however. That is monopolistic and just wrong. I would expect the companies to try to get away with this, I do not expect my government to help them however.