George Bush ADMITS Explosives at the WTC

I'm going to keep pointing htis out because I htink it needs to be noted HOW WRONG YOU ARE

The Naudet brothers video which is the only known record of the 1st plane hitting was not released publicly until Sept 12th. Not 30 minutes later like you falsely claim.

It was STILL BEING SHOT until after the collapses of both towers.

Buy a clue.


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reply to post by syrinx high priest


Thanks. It's just that lumping those who question as all kooks gets to me. Probably because I am one who questions. BTW, I believe we went to the moon and all. I just don't believe that the government is telling us the whole truth of that day (9/11).

BTW, I also don't think the "truth movement" is being perfectly truthful either.

Anyway, thanks. Respect earned.



[edit on 11/6/2007 by Griff]

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You may have not gotten to page 7 yet, but here it is. This is why I have as much a problem with the truth movement as I do the official story. Misinformation and lies on both sides. It's hard to figure out the real truth. Anyway, here it is. Timestamp and all.

p.s. I'm not saying anything bad about you. I was under the impression that it wasn't shown until the next day also.

Originally posted by Griff
I stand corrected.

11 a.m. on 9/11. One of the first broadcasts of Flight 11's impact into WTC 1.
WMV video download (831kB)

Source: www.whatreallyhappened.com...

That's 11 am in Chicago which is 12 pm eastern standard time. Well after both towers fell BTW. So, the 30 minutes remark is still untrue.

reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi

I'd also like to add that the Washington Times on October 7th, 2002 also said that the video didn't surface until the next day.

Here you go. You can find in it the web archives. Just cut and paste..
www.washtimes.com/national/20021007-85016651.htm

into..
www.archive.org...


And then select the desired archive date.

I think "4thdoctorwhofan" is one of them dudes who try and get people off the truth, he is like a "mole" for the us government on ATS, he is waaayyy to persistant that this is all a lie, i think he should be banned from ATS, everyone should all vote that he should be banned,,,who is with me ??

reply to post by sethdarke


Well, you can't ban someone for his opinion because its the opposite of your own.
Because if you do that, ATS will become more like a one men show.
And it are especially answers like these that made my own personally opinion only stronger and stronger.
It has absolute besides what I just said, no effect on me whatsoever.

I am very surprised by this, because the first time I saw the footage was the next day.

However, what I said about the Naudet Bros filming until after both collapses is 100% accurate.

So yes, the 1/2 hour statement is false.

And even more important, it doesn't explain Bush's bizarre statement that he saw the first plane hit and thought it was an accident.

Even if he had seen the footage 3 hours after the attack, it was already known that htis wasn't an accident.

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This actually sheds some light on the situation. It may explain what Bush meant when he said he saw the first plane hit the tower. (He saw the footage of the hole before going into theclassroom.) IT doesn't explain why he sat there for 7-10 minutes after the second plane git.

As much as I don't buy the official story of 9/11, I also which the truth movement would back off a bit on overalyzing these quotes by high ranking officials.

There are enough legitmate discrepencies out there.




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Wait a minute!!!!! The clock in the background reads 10:25 AM.

So, if the white house is trying to pass this off as the President waiting to go into the classroom... then my question is...why are they trying to misrepresent?

The debate continues.


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"I got a lot of Ph.D.-types and smart people around me who come into the Oval Office and say, 'Mr. President, here's what's on my mind.' And I listen carefully to their advice. But having gathered the device, I decide, you know, I say, 'This is what we're going to do.'"

Bush also said that. I think we can just chalk the whole "I saw the first plane hit" thing up to a complete inability to form a coherent thought.

As for the part about explosives being planted in buildings? Somebody has already pointed out that Bush was talking about planned future attacks by Al Queda, not 9/11.

You know what's sad? I fully believe there was a government conspiracy involved in 9/11, but I spend so much time pointing out the obvious lies, stupid no plane theories, and misinformation put out by people trying to profit off the gullibility of many truthers that you'd never know I feel that way.

Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan

Originally posted by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H
They whole documentry is worth watching IMO. what you have here is just one part of it

IMO its not worth watching if right from the beginning they are lying. That tells me that info later on in the video will also be false. I'm sure whatever part of the video you are talking about is absolutely false. They probably edited the video or only used a tiny sample of what Bush said and its totally out of context or a incomplete statement.

Right. The sky is red. The grass is green. The moon is round. Whoa look, one thing being wrong doesn't magically makee everything else in the paragraph wrong also. Do you get it?

Originally posted by mattifikation
You know what's sad? I fully believe there was a government conspiracy involved in 9/11, but I spend so much time pointing out the obvious lies, stupid no plane theories, and misinformation put out by people trying to profit off the gullibility of many truthers that you'd never know I feel that way.

Amen. Although, I wouldn't call anything stupid. Remember the saying "there is no stupid question"? Just saying, but I agree with you. The misrepresentation by the "truth" movement is getting as bad as the very thing they are supposedly oppossing.

Originally posted by malcolmdelaney
I'm going to keep pointing htis out because I htink it needs to be noted HOW WRONG YOU ARE

The Naudet brothers video which is the only known record of the 1st plane hitting was not released publicly until Sept 12th. Not 30 minutes later like you falsely claim.

Buy a clue.

Apparently you don't read all the posts because I said later that it was probably mid afternoon or a little later that I saw the video. And it was already mentioned that the video showing the first plane hit was released the same day.

Buy some time and read all the posts.

Can someone tell me... who Mr. Bush is citing when he explains there were explosives? In the video, it is not made clear. It just cuts in to his public address, I guess after he explains who gave this information of explosives planted by operatives. Who is he getting this info from? Who released it, who is stating this?

Originally posted by sethdarke
I think "4thdoctorwhofan" is one of them dudes who try and get people off the truth, he is like a "mole" for the us government on ATS, he is waaayyy to persistant that this is all a lie, i think he should be banned from ATS, everyone should all vote that he should be banned,,,who is with me ??

Wow, typical, very typical.
Do you always want to ban someone for not thinking like yourself?
Being persistent is a good trait, so thanks. It means that I can think for myself and not be swayed by propaganda.
BTW, stating my opinion is NOT trying to get people off the 'truth'. Geesh!

Originally posted by depth om
Can someone tell me... who Mr. Bush is citing when he explains there were explosives? In the video, it is not made clear. It just cuts in to his public address, I guess after he explains who gave this information of explosives planted by operatives. Who is he getting this info from? Who released it, who is stating this?

Someone in a previous post explained what was going on. I am not going to spoon feed you so go read all the posts in the thread.

Originally posted by dark_matter06
Right. The sky is red. The grass is green. The moon is round. Whoa look, one thing being wrong doesn't magically makee everything else in the paragraph wrong also. Do you get it?

Sorry but that is exactly what it means given the bias and propaganda being spewed by the video. Once you begin with falsehoods, why should I believe anything else you say. Do you get it?

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ill throw you a bone here. click me

the speach in the video had exactly 0 to do with 9/11. bush was discussing OTHER plans for attacks against the US that had been "obtained" from KSM. now, given the methods in which they asked him for this info, it may or may not be accurate but that doesnt change the fact that this speach was in NO way related to the WTC towers on 9/11.

something so many forget to consider...the president doesnt utter ONE single word in public that wasnt written for him by someone else. so, why exactly would they "admit" to demoing the wtc towers again?

there are times when i honestly feel the only thing the "truth movement" needs to acheive cult status is a single guru to follow blindly. but thats just me, sorry if it seems harsh but the willingness of some of the truth movment followers to buy into ANYTHING that could be twisted to seem like "proof" of anything is just amazing at times.

Thank you, and forgive my assheaded-ness in asking what has already been covered.

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This is the man bush is talking about.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed

Source: wwwwakeupamericans-spree.blogspot.com...

For those who want the transcript.

Sorry Damocles, but he does start out talking about 9/11 but you are correct that this part of the speech was not about 9/11.

On the morning of September the 11th, 2001, our nation awoke to a nightmare attack. Nineteen men, armed with box cutters, took control of airplanes and turned them into missiles. They used them to kill nearly 3,000 innocent people. We watched the Twin Towers collapse before our eyes -- and it became instantly clear that we'd entered a new world, and a dangerous new war.

During questioning, KSM also provided many details of other plots to kill innocent Americans. For example, he described the design of planned attacks on buildings inside the United States, and how operatives were directed to carry them out. He told us the operatives had been instructed to ensure that the explosives went off at a point that was high enough to prevent the people trapped above from escaping out the windows.

See the use of the words "other plots" conveniently left out of the original poster's video. Which means, sorry to say folks, he was not talking about 9/11.

Source: www.whitehouse.gov...