My Professor is a Freemason

I'm in class, right now, and what I always suspected has just been confirmed. I'm sitting near the front row and I can see his giant Freemason ring from here.

I've always suspected it...I asked him flat out but he never answered (it was through e-mail). He is smart, sucessful, spiritual and extremely charitable. Fits the criterial. He's a great man, an amazing teacher, and someone I admire alot.

I think it's pretty cool! Just thought I'd share...

Wondering if I should join and get a higher mark in the class!!

reply to post by DazedDave


Interesting idea but that is not the way it works. He'd probably hold you to a higher standered than your classmates.

reply to post by Masonic Student


No no, I know...I was just kidding.

I'm just curious... You said that you suspected something, but you also sound like you were surprised to see the ring. Do you think it's cool that you were right, or do you think it's cool that he's a Mason? (I hope that doesn't come across as sounding sarcastic in any way.)

reply to post by TheHypnoToad


Well, I always kinda suspected something...I've had him for various classes but one day we were discussing Buzz Aldrin (a friend of his) and he mentioned that Buzz is a Mason. I never had thought of it before but when he mentioned that I immediately thought that he could be one...He's a former sucessful businessman, very bright and very spiritual (not religious, but spiritual). He loves his teaching position and is unlike any teacher I've ever had. He has around 300 students a year and enlists about 95% to work for his charity he has every year where he supplies inner city families with Christmas presents, food, and clothes.

He is an excellent motivator and someone you can really admire. One of the hardest workers I have ever seen...He never sleeps, is never late, and is always availible to his students (we have his personal cell number if we need to contact him urgently).

So yeah, I kinda suspected something...Asked him in an e-mail but he never responded (which is unusual for him). It was more of a joke to me...Some friends and I would kid around about it but I wasn't fully convinced. When I saw the ring today, I was pretty shocked...Even if I suspected something.

I think it's really cool that he's a Mason. It's something that interests me although I don't think I'd ever apply, at least at this point in my life.

Originally posted by DazedDave
I'm in class, right now, and what I always suspected has just been confirmed. I'm sitting near the front row and I can see his giant Freemason ring from here.

I've always suspected it...I asked him flat out but he never answered (it was through e-mail). He is smart, sucessful, spiritual and extremely charitable. Fits the criterial. He's a great man, an amazing teacher, and someone I admire alot.

I think it's pretty cool! Just thought I'd share...

Wondering if I should join and get a higher mark in the class!!

Hmm I would say NO! But if you respect him and admire him so much maybe you should join to be like him. Ask him face to face if he is and tell him you want to join. If he feels you are a good match you need but ask and he should take care of the rest.

Originally posted by HizToyz
But if you respect him and admire him so much maybe you should join to be like him. Ask him face to face if he is and tell him you want to join. If he feels you are a good match you need but ask and he should take care of the rest.

And if he thinks, or his brothers think, you are unworthy of the perks of connections and networking the masons gives, then he will condemn you to the fate of being a non self proclaimed elite that hides in secrecy.

There is a reason groups use secrecy.

Originally posted by DazedDave
reply to post by TheHypnoToad

 

Well, I always kinda suspected something...I've had him for various classes but one day we were discussing Buzz Aldrin (a friend of his) and he mentioned that Buzz is a Mason. I never had thought of it before but when he mentioned that I immediately thought that he could be one...He's a former sucessful businessman, very bright and very spiritual (not religious, but spiritual). He loves his teaching position and is unlike any teacher I've ever had. He has around 300 students a year and enlists about 95% to work for his charity he has every year where he supplies inner city families with Christmas presents, food, and clothes.

He is an excellent motivator and someone you can really admire. One of the hardest workers I have ever seen...He never sleeps, is never late, and is always availible to his students (we have his personal cell number if we need to contact him urgently).

So yeah, I kinda suspected something...Asked him in an e-mail but he never responded (which is unusual for him). It was more of a joke to me...Some friends and I would kid around about it but I wasn't fully convinced. When I saw the ring today, I was pretty shocked...Even if I suspected something.

I think it's really cool that he's a Mason. It's something that interests me although I don't think I'd ever apply, at least at this point in my life.

Well then I retract my last statment you shouldnt ask...I dont think you should have been shocked at all. Masonry makes good men better. (Keep in mind I and only at the stage where I am waiting to be accepted) You should not be surprised at all today at a airport a women fell on her face (try not to laugh she was very old and the floor was slick she had plastic type soles) I ran to help her and get her to a chiar as I reached down for her arm a second hand was there for the other arm this hand had a masons ring on it. Needless to say I was not surprised as the rest of the foot traffic tryed hard not only to get around her but to look the other way. Masons in general from everything I have heard and seen are some of the best men I have ever met and I will be proud to count myself one of them.

Originally posted by Redge777

And if he thinks, or his brothers think, you are unworthy of the perks of connections and networking the masons gives, then he will condemn you to the fate of being a non self proclaimed elite that hides in secrecy.

There is a reason groups use secrecy.

Is that the problem? Did they black ball you? Is that your heart ache?

Originally posted by Redge777

Originally posted by HizToyz
But if you respect him and admire him so much maybe you should join to be like him. Ask him face to face if he is and tell him you want to join. If he feels you are a good match you need but ask and he should take care of the rest.

And if he thinks, or his brothers think, you are unworthy of the perks of connections and networking the masons gives, then he will condemn you to the fate of being a non self proclaimed elite that hides in secrecy.

There is a reason groups use secrecy.

Lol.

Astounding ignorance .. You must believe you are a perfect Christian ..

Buzz Aldrin (a friend of his)

Hmm, big connection.. did he mention how they came to be friends?

He's a former sucessful businessman

Well that has nothing to do with being a Mason... the majority have careers, and im sure most would refer to it as being sucessful but not so many "wealthy"..

very bright and very spiritual

Interesting you associate intelligence and spiritualness with Masonry, most think of Satanic and Evil.

Asked him in an e-mail but he never responded

Kind of an off the wall way to ask someone .. I am sure if you asked him in person he would have no issue telling you..

It was more of a joke to me...Some friends and I would kid around about it but I wasn't fully convinced. When I saw the ring today, I was pretty shocked...Even if I suspected something.

There are millions of Masons, it shouldn't be surprising. You see many more then you think, but many don't wear rings, or have any sign, and though some don't believe it they look like average joe.

It's something that interests me although I don't think I'd ever apply, at least at this point in my life

Younger you start the better! At the latest grand lodge communication I had to listen to guys in their late 20's to mid 30's complain they where much younger then other Masons, and I had to think "I could still call you old man" being only 21.

Just remember though, regardless of what the ignorant fools of the world say (redge777) they are just that, ignorant, blind, and unaccepting of anything that differs from their narrow minded approach to life.

Ignore them.. because..

And if he thinks, or his brothers think, you are unworthy of the perks of connections and networking the masons gives

Their are few, few perks in Masonry that would be life changing for you, absolutely no guarantee of any actually, I think I get a 10% discount if I rent a car .. that I can't rent until I turn 25 anyways.. and besides, my insurance covers it anyways..

There is a Masonic credit card here in Ohio, I have one actually.. 13% interest rate but hey, it helps charity No, no direct perks from Masonry.

Connections? .. Not so much, if you make friends you make friends, and you get benefits with it of course, I have gotten non masonic friends jobs before, but that again is nothing to do with Masonry.

then he will condemn you to the fate of being a non self proclaimed elite that hides in secrecy.

Cracks me up. I know I am a self proclaimed elite. Living in secrecy. if only my bank account backed that claim!

reply to post by Rockpuck


Yeah I have a couple of people I know very well that are Masons and they wouldn't tell me nothing about it for a long time. Not to long ago one told me in general terms what it was about and stated how disgusted he was when he would go to the lodge and so many people would basically have there hands out asking for favors but that they would never return them. Its more of a good Samaritan club on the street.

Originally posted by HizToyz
Is that the problem? Did they black ball you? Is that your heart ache?

No I walked out, I did not get black balled. I disagree with a system in secrecy where the elite pick who joins. I did not understand what I disagreed with till some time later, it took me awhile to develop opinions.

I don't have a heart ache, I just have issues with secrecy.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Astounding ignorance .. You must believe you are a perfect Christian ..

What part of my statement is incorrect, where is it ignorant, where did I refer to Christian beliefs, where did I claim to be perfect?

Originally posted by Redge777

Originally posted by HizToyz
Is that the problem? Did they black ball you? Is that your heart ache?

No I walked out, I did not get black balled. I disagree with a system in secrecy where the elite pick who joins. I did not understand what I disagreed with till some time later, it took me awhile to develop opinions.

I don't have a heart ache, I just have issues with secrecy.

Ok so you dont like secrecy? Didn't you know it was a society with secrets when you joined (note not a secret society). Is that the only reason? I can respect that you found falt and had the strength to just walk away. Despite what anyone will say walking away from your peers because of principals takes a strong man.
I retract my previous snotty remark if you acutally went through with it then I have a found respect.
But is that the only reason?

Originally posted by HizToyz
Ok so you dont like secrecy? Didn't you know it was a society with secrets when you joined (note not a secret society).

Is that the only reason? I can respect that you found falt and had the strength to just walk away. (snip) Despite what anyone will say walking away from your peers because of principals takes a strong man.

I retract my previous snotty remark if you acutally went through with it then I have a found respect.
But is that the only reason?

I had many reasons, it took years of thinking after I left to understand my objections. It felt wrong didn't know why, but I left on that feeling. Later I came to my best understanding of why I do not approve of some of there actions. But my disapproval is a personal opinion and I have no right to state that because we all have the right to their own opinion, and my objections include my personal belief system.

However, the secrecy, and training in the principles of elitism I feel are arguable on historical example and logic so I speak of those.

I did not understand how secrecy was wrong back then.

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reply to post by Redge777


So you are saying you used to be a Mason?

He is making things up.

reply to post by brotherforchrist


I hope you don't mind if I hear it from his keyboard.

Originally posted by brotherforchrist
He is making things up.

Why would you say that? Has he been outed before?

reply to post by intrepid


No I use to belong to a society that used the same secrecy, and similiar rituals of the masons.

But very breifly and do not consider any of my time in membership to be a bases for any knowledge or opinions I have.

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