Demons & proof that perhaps the bible is a lie!!!

So basically I have to repent my ways,,, ask for forgiveness and perhaps be baptized,,,im actually wondering if that is a good idea, cause i have a feeling that if i do do that i might end up "actually" being tormented because i am turning away from them,,,i think some of you might be right, that i left myself wide open and now i have no lee way with them at all and i am now blinded by the darkness,,,it is a possibility

But what happens if i do all this, the whole repent thing and nothing happens, and my life just goes on as usual ??

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funny, how in order to believe Zeitgeist the movie, you have to have just as much faith in it, than someone else would in the Bible and Christianity. you have to believe SOMETHING, because you never really know...

p.s. A lot of Zeitgeist has been debunked as total lies.

Originally posted by sethdarke
So basically I have to repent my ways,,, ask for forgiveness and perhaps be baptized,,,im actually wondering if that is a good idea, cause i have a feeling that if i do do that i might end up "actually" being tormented because i am turning away from them,,,i think some of you might be right, that i left myself wide open and now i have no lee way with them at all and i am now blinded by the darkness,,,it is a possibility

But what happens if i do all this, the whole repent thing and nothing happens, and my life just goes on as usual ??

sethdarke,

Don't worry about it. Some of the members here are fairly religious and are trying to use scare tactics. Yet they can't even prove the God they worship exists, or demons or even hell for that matter. Go about your life like you normally do. Don't be paranoid about it. Believe in yourself and you'll do just fine.

Ever wondered what a priest, pastor or whatever thinks of demons? Go ask one and fine out.

You are very fortunate that strange things haven't happened to you. I would burn the Ouija Board. Demonic Forces are very real. You might want to check out some of Dr. Lester Sumrall's books, like Demon Powers, Demons and Alien Entities. These are Christian books. Dr. Sumrall was a missionary all over the world, and talks about the demonic forces that he encountered. Dr. Sumrall explains why you should not dabble in the occult, and that it is dangerous!

Stockburn, it's a little tough to prove the spirit world. It's not like spirits perform on command and show up just in time for you to take a picture.

hey why not try that whole mirror under water thing i read about a while back.

lets see frame a mirror and slap it on like a table make sure its metal so it wont try to float and make it harder to handle
make usre evertything is like super secure and get a friend to help you take it intoa river and hold it an look into it as the water runs over it and you should see a water elemental from what i understood just dont let the mirror break and do doit unless yalls have balls of steel cuz if you lose it and the mirror breaks you will let it in and u will never lose it it will be your friend for life and maybe even beyond

thats how that story went pretty much

PS: on a more personal note if someone is out there whos my guide i dont want to be able to see him staring at me in the toilet

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Your posession seems to be your infatuation with these things.

Depth Om it would seem. This guy claims to be an "occultist." He's not an occultist, he is a modern day dabbler in Satanism, from what he has said.

Hi Sethdarke

You have partly answered my question...

"i'm simply looking for proof/answers like everyone else on here, i am interested in demonology, the supernatural, paranormal and everything related to it... "

But it's the demonology that concerns me. I strongly recommend that if you want to experiment and find proof of the supernatural and paranormal, that you research psychic protection and actively avoid the dark/negative entities. They are real!! And they are not nice!!

As mentioned before, it took me years of meditation before I could communicate with my guide. It is through mind/consciousness and meditation that a communication link can be established with the other realms. It is our own personal growth and advancement that connects us to the higher beings.

Have you ever experienced or attempted out-of-body travel? I can assure you my friend, that once you experience what it is like to be free of your physical body, your belief system will alter considerably.

Kind regards,

Dobbie

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Yah right, let a demonic take hold of you and you'll find religion quickly!

You have free will dude, read up like others have asked!

Seek and you will find!! week minds will be bind. underestamating someone elses desire to control your live only leds to trouble your not able to handle alone. White witches, Imps and Angles are simply in a different mental plane.
THGHOST.

sethdarke,

You wanna make contact but failed because they didn't wanted to see you. I sensed weak spiritual energy, so weak that spirits can attack you. Thank your guides for this one, I'm a creature of the Dark and I still got attacked. You had better be careful. Around your bodies you have a lot of protective guides guarding you so you won't have a problem.

For me, when I was still new to spirits, demon etc, I rely on myself. Actually, maybe not, I have strong spiritual energy so I often got attacked by Demons but I was protected by protective guides so I was lucky. Try not to play the Ouijia Board again.

Kind regards,
Dana

Stockburn,

If you want to be ignorant to the Occult, do it yourself, don't pressure others! If you damn hell have to push others into it, I swear I will bring you to Hell. Can you prove that Science is the answer? Why is the Giant Squid found? Let me guess, they make a stuffed toy and throw it in the sea after that, they pick it up and shout things like: "Holy sh1t! We have a Giant Squid" or maybe "Freak! A Giant squid!" or something like that?

Originally posted by sethdarke
So ? your telling me the occult is all fairies and fluffy bunnies ? i have read alot of books, and i mean alot, most notably madam blavatsky, i know the occult

but you cant come tell me i give it a bad name, how am i doing that ? because i lean more towards the dark side ? then fine, i will take it as a compliment that i give the occult a bad name, because everything has two sides, and i know mine,,,so you can play with your fluffy bunnies and unicorns and i'll mind my own thanks

i am catholic but how you deal with your life is your problem, anywayu
just a few question's

1) why are you trying to do this?

2)books do not always tell the full truth of things. what makes you think you know everything?

3)what has driven you to try these things?

4)have you been in group rituals or do you do this alone?

5) and last why in every post so far have you been extremely hostile?

in my opinion you are doomed my friend if you have done as you have claimed then your soul has been taken and when you die you will burn and suffer an eternity of torture i pray for you... ipray with all my heart that you do not suffer and that you live to go to a land of light. please do not do these things anymore as i wish for you to not to be tortured in fire but to be graced with light

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Originally posted by sethdarke
So basically I have to repent my ways,,, ask for forgiveness and perhaps be baptized,,,im actually wondering if that is a good idea, cause i have a feeling that if i do do that i might end up "actually" being tormented because i am turning away from them,,,i think some of you might be right, that i left myself wide open and now i have no lee way with them at all and i am now blinded by the darkness,,,it is a possibility

But what happens if i do all this, the whole repent thing and nothing happens, and my life just goes on as usual ??

You will find God if you truly seek Him. He is not a performer that acts on command, He wants truth. He is calling to you though. I came from a past of atheism, followed by new age, and I know what being tormented is. Jesus Christ is real, and He would have you saved if you will seek Him. Perhaps Satan isn't proving himself to you the way you want because he is satisfied with the fact that you have given your soul to him. He has no need to give you anything, or entertain you otherwise.

Only read the first page & some decent replies ,so just my opinion here.

With your attitude towards spirituality no demon needs to work you (hard) ,you already "made" up your mind now,so why should they do anything? By doing something they know you'd know they are real and you'd seek greener grass if the crap hits the fan.

I was there,been down that road,i even took God on a personal level..it was quiet,nothing..i became a dj 2 years later & one night after my shift i had an experience that shook me (& no i can honestly say i have never taken drugs,but i did drink),it did not get better in my case but worse so i seeked greener grass to say.

I still have issues on some levels but i know what i must do for myself.You have taken on some hard choices imo,i can tell you ONE thing ,just hope if ever you do get/have an "issue" that's it's a demon that's gotten hold of you rather than God whom cursed you (you can rid of demons but not God's curses as you need Him in spiritual warfare) ..hope,believe & pray if ever anything happens that He should be helping you,do not ignore anything that remotely relates to the Spiritual side.

All that i am saying is a warning when or if it does happen and that you should not play hard-ass at that time,hardened hearts make everything worse in that time.

Btw ..flesh means nothing in God's eyes ,people have marked (tattooed) themselves back in the day as well,so if the right hand did something wrong it's better to cut it off,flesh ain't going anywhere but to dust,but your soul goes places.

Cheers

Well thanks to all you guys for your concern over my soul, but as everyone has a different opinion and belief in life so do I, and I for one refuse to worship a god blindly like your christian god expects, i refuse to worship a god who threatens his subjects into submission with fear, the fear of everlasting torment because of temporary sin, i refuse to worship a god who murders the whole world just because no one on it cared about him, i refuse to worship a god filled with vengeance and hate and is wrathful and jealous....

Lucifer is the one who set us free from gods control, god wanted us to be robots in worship of him, and Lucifer gave us knowledge, Lucifer set us free, it is god who is the messed up one, not Lucifer people...

We were set free of our bondage by Lucifer and now god is setting his revenge upon us...

Originally posted by danachua
Stockburn,

If you want to be ignorant to the Occult, do it yourself, don't pressure others! If you damn hell have to push others into it, I swear I will bring you to Hell. Can you prove that Science is the answer? Why is the Giant Squid found? Let me guess, they make a stuffed toy and throw it in the sea after that, they pick it up and shout things like: "Holy sh1t! We have a Giant Squid" or maybe "Freak! A Giant squid!" or something like that?

You would be better of not threatening me.

Thanks and have a great day.

Originally posted by sethdarke
Well thanks to all you guys for your concern over my soul, but as everyone has a different opinion and belief in life so do I, and I for one refuse to worship a god blindly like your christian god expects, i refuse to worship a god who threatens his subjects into submission with fear, the fear of everlasting torment because of temporary sin, i refuse to worship a god who murders the whole world just because no one on it cared about him, i refuse to worship a god filled with vengeance and hate and is wrathful and jealous....

Lucifer is the one who set us free from gods control, god wanted us to be robots in worship of him, and Lucifer gave us knowledge, Lucifer set us free, it is god who is the messed up one, not Lucifer people...

We were set free of our bondage by Lucifer and now god is setting his revenge upon us...

God doesn't want anyone to worship Him blindly. Worship is something that comes naturally when you know Him. That is what He wants, to know you, and for you to know Him. He will never force anyone into the pit that He created for Satan, but He will give you the choice to go there if that is what you want. He loves you, no matter what you have done, or how you feel about Him. Satan can set you free of nothing. All he can do is to fool you into thinking that you will be ok. Satan wants to pull you into the fire that is his destiny, because he hates God and all His creation. And that is what you are, Gods creation. Don't give up on Him, He hasn't given up on you.

Ok, so you say god doesn't force us to worship him, so he says, i give you free will, BUT, if you do not choose to worship me, then you will go to hell for all eternity, what kind of free will is that,,kind of reminds me of america, a dictatorship, supposedly america is the land of the free, but your laws are so ridiculous that they are now trying to ban baggy pants, you can get sued for anything and everything in the US, god is a dictator if u ask me, NO I DO NOT WANT TO GO TO HELL, but i also don't want to be a christian, i dont want to always turn the other cheek, i WANT to have sex before marriage, hell i dont even want to get married, i want to get drunk if i feel like it, if i am angry i'll swear, but this is all a sin in gods eyes,,,quite frankly i can't give up sinning, so how can i choose to worship a god that is against sinning, but your saying even if i live a good life i'll still go to hell because i do not worship god,,,im not a murderer, or a rapist, i dont attack people or cause wars, i dont steal and break up families, i dont sacrifice little kittens and kick puppies,,,im just a normal guy, i wake up, i shower i go to work, i have a few drinks now and then, i swear every so often and i get a bit of road rage, i have pre marital sex with my girlfriend,,,im just your normal average guy trying to make it through life in one piece, trying to be happy and to make some of my dreams come true, but it is all in vain because according to the bible i am a sinner and will be sent to hell, even tho i am not a murder,rapist or puppy kicker.....

Originally posted by sethdarke
Ok, so you say god doesn't force us to worship him, so he says, i give you free will, BUT, if you do not choose to worship me, then you will go to hell for all eternity, what kind of free will is that,,kind of reminds me of america, a dictatorship, supposedly america is the land of the free, but your laws are so ridiculous that they are now trying to ban baggy pants, you can get sued for anything and everything in the US, god is a dictator if u ask me, NO I DO NOT WANT TO GO TO HELL, but i also don't want to be a christian, i dont want to always turn the other cheek, i WANT to have sex before marriage, hell i dont even want to get married, i want to get drunk if i feel like it, if i am angry i'll swear, but this is all a sin in gods eyes,,,quite frankly i can't give up sinning, so how can i choose to worship a god that is against sinning, but your saying even if i live a good life i'll still go to hell because i do not worship god,,,im not a murderer, or a rapist, i dont attack people or cause wars, i dont steal and break up families, i dont sacrifice little kittens and kick puppies,,,im just a normal guy, i wake up, i shower i go to work, i have a few drinks now and then, i swear every so often and i get a bit of road rage, i have pre marital sex with my girlfriend,,,im just your normal average guy trying to make it through life in one piece, trying to be happy and to make some of my dreams come true, but it is all in vain because according to the bible i am a sinner and will be sent to hell, even tho i am not a murder,rapist or puppy kicker.....

Most people want to do those things, or at least some of us did. I lived most of my life like that. And no, you cannot change your desires, no one can. The only reason I came to Him is because I was at the end of the road. My health was gone, and frankly so was most of my mind. So I asked Him to forgive me. And I asked Him to change me into what He wanted me to be. And I asked Him to Heal me. Little by little He has answered these prayers. Could anyone have talked me into turning to Him before. I don't know, no one really tried, but I was pretty hard headed. Anyway, as I get older, the one thing I desire most is peace. Peace in my mind and in my heart. He can give that to you also. If you want.