We must bomb Iran, says US Republican guru

We must bomb Iran, says US Republican guru

www.telegraph.co.uk

A senior foreign policy adviser to the Republican frontrunner Rudy Giuliani has urged that Iran be bombed using cruise missiles and "bunker busters" to set back Teheran’s nuclear programme by at least five years.

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Yea, that's it! Let's rush right into World War III.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm certainly looking forward to the countless deaths that are about to come.

/sarcasm


What the hell are we thinking in this country? What real threat does Iran pose us, the citizens of the United States? Are they going to take Louis Black's comments to heart and have 500 iranians get together and throw a missle at us?

Why are we so eager to provoke Iran (and in turn Russia) to attack? Could it possibly be because war is good business for our government?

Maybe.


Jasn

www.telegraph.co.uk
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I dont get it

Dont these people have any sense what so ever? , They KNOW it will cause WWIII or something of the kind, yet they push and push for these plans to happen, without the thought of all the innocent people that will die
Even if they wanted to rule the world, Who wants to rule a radioactive population-less world worth sod all?

The reasons given to us for whatever the elites are doing is not the real ones. The public reasons given for attacking Iran is even ridiculous since they are 3-8 years away from even having nuclear energy.

They may continue to spread their lies but I will never believe another word they say again.

And attacking Iran may not cause a global war where everything goes to hell... it depends. We know that during the first and second world war, both sides were financed by the same bankers. Wars are fought for profits, so the people controlling the third world war may not let it get out of control completely. Preferably they want to keep it going for a long time since there is maximum profits doing it that way.

Yes, Im becoming a cynic the more I learn about how the world really works...


[edit on 27-10-2007 by Copernicus]

Is there any legitimacy to the idea that a number of people fully believe they would see WWIII in their lifetime, many of them baby boomers, so they have no issue pushing it into reality? In other words they always believed it would happen, so now the people in power are making it happen...

Even if an attack on Iran doesn't result in a retaliation from Russia, the repercussions are extensive and damaging for the US. Attacking Iran would almost certainly ignite a regional war. Iran would use all of its assets in order to counter the US strike. This means we could see violent action from terrorist factions supported by Iran. this includes Hamas in Palestine, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and Shiites in Iraq. Syria and Israel would be instantly involved, Turkey and Saudi Arabia would likely soon follow. With such a large region and a number of countries sure to get involved combined with large oil exports from the region, we would almost certainly see grave economic consequences. The dollar could face a collapse if Oil rises above $150 a barrel.

An attack on Iran runs the risk of igniting and uniting the entire Muslim community as well.

reply to post by Disgustipated


Well, most people feel they have plenty of places ready for the elite so they don't have to worry about the fallout. Plus, I would think it much easier to "rule" a world that's less populated. The more populated an area becomes, the more chances for "independent thought".

They are all war profiteers; The longer wars go on, the more they stand to make. It's disgusting if you really think about it.

Jasn

reply to post by Vipassana


With all of the warnings from Russia against attacking Iran, I would think that an attack would definitely trigger World War III.

Though, as copernicus said, the bankers do control the wars (and the rest of the world); That being that, it may not get as bad as some people think. However, any world war would be more than bad enough.

Jasn

Giuliani knows all, don't cha know he was on the front lines on 911. That little runt doesn't know his arse from a hole in the ground.

I agree that this is probably the Oligarchy controlling this situation. But for anyone who doesn't believe that private bankers are pushing this forward, there is still absolutely no good reason to go to war with Iran right now.

reply to post by Vipassana


Not for the United States. I agree with that whole heartedly.

If Israel wants to attack Iran, I say let them and let them do it ON THEIR OWN.

They have the the military strength and no one seems to be all worked up about them having nukes, let them use them. We just need to stay out of it.

Jasn

reply to post by SimiusDei


We both know that if Israel attacks Iran, the US will be drawn in immediately. This is why the situation is so dangerous too, the alliances are reminiscent of pre WWI alliances. At the very least it will be US and Israel vs Syria/Iran.

In a globalized economy though, foreign investment plays a huge role compared to WWI days. Europe relies heavily on Middle eastern oil. Russia supplies weapons to Iran and Syria. the Us has major economic ties. And a large portion of the rest of the world has economic interests in the region. Venezuela is another ally of Iran that would likely get involved.

reply to post by Vipassana


You remind me of the "America's Answer is Isolationism" thread posted here awhile back (sorry, don't remember who it was, maybe uberarcanist? If you remember, please shoot a word of credit in the thread for me). That thread was spot on about the problems we face in this country.

Isolationism might indeed help us restructure this country and make it great again, while preventing crap like this and taking the war mongers out of power.


Jasn


EDIT TO ADD:

the thread mentioned above was the brainchild of speakeroftruth. It's a great thread and I suggest you read it if you haven't.

Isolationism is America's Answer

[edit on 27-10-2007 by SimiusDei]

Ah yes, yet more propaganda to sharpen the picture of a war with Iran to the masses.

I find it funny, 2years ago you didn't hear Iran as being a 'threat', even a year ago it was vague. Now all of a sudden Iran is about to go ape# with it's nukes and we need to stop them.

Like Copernicus and others mentioned, this war has been planned years ahead of time and for reasons we're not suppose to know about. It isn't really a matter of if, but when it will happen.

What really put this into perspective for me some time ago was comparing Iraq with Iran ya know? It's no Iraq that's for sure, and now Russia is siding with Iran? hmm.

I agree that it will be a drawn out war, since the people funding it will want to shoot for the stars concerning their profits.

reply to post by scarrr


Most of our enemies in this "war on terror" are manufactured. Even the ones that MIGHT post a real threat to us were created BY us to further agendas of the past.

Yet another aspect of "1984" coming true.


Jasn

More 'protecting our freedoms' I guess.

Shame that certain people dont take notice of the points made about these illegal wars and invasions.

Then when it all goes belly up the illegal invaders and their supporters expect me and everyone else to feel sorry for them.

If there was no-one volunteering to fight these wars then we would see a lack of enthusiasm to drop bombs on every damn country that takes the governments fancy.

There's a difference between protecting and invading, I wish certain people could grasp the difference.

Before those 'people' start to troll me on here too, I no longer read your dumb responses,

I'm convinced that there are those in government that feel it is their God given right and duty, to bring on Armageddon and the Second coming of Christ.
It could even go deeper than geopolitics and be more akin to a religious war. Do the evangelicals still have power in Washington? Maybe more than we know; just keeping a lower profile with the stupid remarks by some of the televanlelists.

[edit on 28-10-2007 by whaaa]

reply to post by whaaa


Some people say that's exactly what people like "Dubya" are doing.

Who knows?



I also agree with the previous poster when he says there is a difference in defense and invasion. What we did in Iraq was an invasion and NOTHING different. And now, we are occupying the invaded lands. Is it any wonder Iran is trying to build themselves up militarily? They have to know they are next.


Jasn

Originally posted by Vipassana
Is there any legitimacy to the idea that a number of people fully believe they would see WWIII in their lifetime, many of them baby boomers, so they have no issue pushing it into reality? In other words they always believed it would happen, so now the people in power are making it happen...

I agree with this. The problem is that the major religions involved in these attacks, do not acknowledge that this planet has any FUTURE. They expect the world to end. So it doesnt really matter how many wars there are. We have got to get these criminally insane people out of office...not only in our government but also in Iran and elsewhere.

reply to post by Skyfloating


Indeed. It's amazing how a single issue (religion) can so easily bring people together AND cause utter death and destruction.

Jasn

Yes....

i have noticed that both Giuliuani
and Romney, are both adopting the 'warrior president' mantra


it seems that a neoconservative founder, a Norman Podhoretz
is bending the two republican candidates ears...
(i believe it's to Groom them for office...
as the 2008 election is just window dressing)

the war, whether it will be viewed as WWIII, the Gog-Magog war
or even armageddon, seems a sure thing to happen ~somehow~