Australia to build HAARP facility.

Interesting thread. I had no idea about the media coup in Australia. Doesn't sound good. Further consolidation of money and power can only lead to despair. I've also heard that Australia houses one or more D.U.M.B.'s, Major one being Pine Gap near Alice Springs. What are they up to?

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wow tom, i bet you must have passed high school science. the pencil is not at the same frequency of your brain when you drumroll it. where did that idea come from? as for the stadium comparison to brainwaves (or frequency, and frequency in this case is NOT how frequently some random thing happens, but a term used to describe the oscillation of a wave) that works, since there are multiple processes going on in the brain at different times. But, that doesnt mean that it cannot be interpretted or altered by outside forces. Now, it seems that they are using this technology along with other means of mind control. It is not an instant mind control and you do whatever they say like hypnotic trance, its mass manipulation. Whether or not the HAARP has any effects, it is clear Murdoch is going to use his media control for a majority of the manipulation. And for DaRage, i dont get you. clearly the lexapro, a mere pill, makes you feel happy, rather than depressed, which was how you were feeling beforehand. that constitutes mind control in a minute form at the least. Combined with the effects of the media everywhere one looks, and quite possibly the electromagnetic waves (that resonate at frequencies) in the atmosphere, who knows what will go through your mind. Again it is not direct mind control as skeptics might want to argue, it is mass manipulation through the use of all mediums, and is quite effective.

Originally posted by DaRAGE


D00d its called a skull.

my suggestion is you research two proven things, namely a guy named Jose Delgado and the term 'microwave hearing'.

Originally posted by anhinga
"Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves."

Former Defense Secretary William Cohen
Sam Nunn Policy Forum, April 28, 1997
University of Georgia, Athens, Georgia

And yet, did he mention HAARP? HAARP only had the first 18 antenna elements at the time. I know that Bearden always attributes this to HAARP, but he also thinks all EM is longitudinal.

Originally posted by jmilla
wow tom, i bet you must have passed high school science.

Yep! Amazing! And I kept on going!

the pencil is not at the same frequency of your brain when you drumroll it. where did that idea come from?

Sure it can be! The definition of frequency is, after all, how often something occurs in a unit measure of time. It is called an analogy, for those of you with a bad habit of concrete thinking, and was an illustration that "frequency" is an attribute of repetitive phenomena and not a thing in and of itself. Actually, it doesn't have to be repetitive, even once is enough, the frequency is just very low after a while.

as for the stadium comparison to brainwaves (or frequency, and frequency in this case is NOT how frequently some random thing happens, but a term used to describe the oscillation of a wave) that works, since there are multiple processes going on in the brain at different times. But, that doesnt mean that it cannot be interpretted or altered by outside forces.

In general, it cannot be interpreted, at least not at the level which the poster was saying "A thought is an impulse at a specific frequency" which is quite incorrect. The neural activity of the brain as measured by something as crude as an EEG is just giving you the summation of a lot of processes, and picking out "a thought" is not going to be possible. You might be able to listen to the people in the stadium scream and know someone made a touchdown, but you're never going to pick out little Joey in seat A-15 blowing his nose from outside the stadium or Linda talking to her boyfriend in ZZ-25.

Originally posted by Long Lance
my suggestion is you research two proven things, namely a guy named Jose Delgado and the term 'microwave hearing'.

Delgado's work was pretty crude, but if you are of the set that thinks "microchips" were involved, you need to do more research yourself.

As for "microwave hearing", let's see you tell me what the energy density has to be before you can perceive it. I'll wait....(crickets)

wow, thanks for the responses guys. its good to see a debate on issues that affect us and hopefully not only learn new things but open others eyes to what is going on.

somebody mentioned pine gap - Heres some pics and info of what it looks like close up.






and some say it does play a part already with the HAARP project.

Guess we'll never know for sure. Keep the debate going, the discussion is great.

reply to post by Melbourne_Militia


Pine Gap's got a lot of stuff, but it's not even close to HAARP in terms of function.

Now, you guys DO have a lot of VLF, LF and HF aerials we use, thanks very much, but they're not in PG, they're all over the Exmouth area. So in terms of sub communication, that's a really important place.

The next closest ionospheric modification station that I can think of is somewhat to the south of you where it's very cold. They did a lot of work at Siple Station up until, IIRC, 1988.

The truth of the matter, reality, is quite an ugly creature to behold. HAARP is Just another powerful instrument being used for control. The air is already on fire.

katrina was an inside job.

..no doubt.

I honestly believe this is the 'net' the Hopi indians prophesized thousands of years ago.

reply to post by Melbourne_Militia


those that are willing to spend so much money on a system supposedly just an experiment must be well aware that it can do a lot more than test weather control "theories".the scripture that says people will want to kill themselves because of their grief when the nwo/babylon the great takes over but they cannot------one wonders if the haarp system might be the reason why? book of revelation 9:6--------whoever has heard of a suicidal person that has no power over their bodies to commit the act ?

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i like your avatar----i used to enjoy target shooting when i was younger-----i became "religious" and gave away my guns to friends now wouldnt mind going back to target shooting but the laws have all changed in canada---------there's not a snowballs chance in "h***"that this present government would ever let me have a gun for any reason-----legally.by the time i hope to move to israel the law there will probably tighten up as well-----------i have no desire to murder anyone/not even an animal but apparently i "look" like the enemy?

Originally posted by DaRAGE
As for my emotions and feelings, well they are somewhat juiced up at the moment due to my new found friend, erm, only friend, Lexapro, an anti-depressant/anti-anxiety tablet ;-P 20mg of carefree bliss ;-P 10 in the morning, 10 in the afternoon ;-P

Electricity cant alter the way you think?
50 years ago they would have said the same in regards to the chemicals your taking.
Shock therapy was the 'drug' of choice back then.

reply to post by SmokeyJo


The only problem is, there's about 15 orders of magnitude between ECT and any radio transmission you could get from HAARP. There's really no comparison here.

Besides all of this HAARP junk, what implications could this have?

I would assume there is only so much water in the atmosphere that they can change to rain. To me, it seems like if they make it rain in one area, it's going to be taken from somewhere else, so it will rain less there. I just don't see this as a win situation, even if it's completely safe and benign.

The only way, in my mind, that I would think this would be useful is if they also found a way to put more moisture in the air, because in places that it doesn't rain, it's dry and not much moisture, so where is the moisture going to come from when they "Make it rain"?

Another interesting thing I forgot to mention before is that UFO's seem to be drawn to electrical activity. I've seen a video where several of them congregate around a lighting storm. Here we are- Indeed they seem to "charge their batteries", if you will, from the electricity in the ionosphere.

Or remember the tether incident? That Electro-dynamic tether was basically a huge power cord, and we all remember what happened there.

So this brings me to wonder if this facility will perhaps inadvertently draw their (UFOs) attention? Or perhaps that is part of it's real purpose? Many variables to consider...

Great thread Melbourne_Militia.

I would've thought that the NWO would be backing Labor to win as they would then have to deal with only one Political party nationwide.
Labor would control all Australian States as well as Federally if they win the next election.
This concentration of power seems to have a lot of people excited and you have to wonder why.

I think there is more to this Rain making technology story.

I've often wondered why we here in Sydney are often reminded of the critical water shortages here and have to suffer through water restrictions.

And yet, if it really is that bad, why is it that there is no coinciding population limits being put on Sydney or population restrictions if you like.?
10,000 migrants from overseas settle in Sydney every year and also trans state migration where most flock to Sydney.

That is a hell of a lot of extra water that needs to be found per year and extra rainfall needed in our catchment areas!
And yet, there doesn't seem to be any plan to restrict the population of Sydney.
Maybe this Rain making scheme has been planned for a LONG time.
Which would explain why the politicians (especailly State) don't seem overly concerned about Sydneys bugeoning population and it's future water requirements.
Hey, they'll just pluck it out of the sky. Don't worry cobbers!!

Have to say that a few people I've spoken to about Turnballs rain making idea think that the guy has totally lost the plot!!
I think the NWO has a lot more work to do on your average Aussie to get them to agree to what appears to them to be hair brained schemes.

Originally posted by Essan
Only problem is, HAARP can no more control the weather than my desktop calendar can.

Learn the science

We're talking ionosphere not the low troposphere!


This supposed technology to make rain sounds very dodgy to me - more like a scam in fact. Steer well clear is my advice!

hrm.. lemme give you a scenario and then tell me it "doesn't control the weather"

Let's say we use this HAARP technology to super heat the ionospehere and push it up 60 miles like the HAARP facility here in America has stated they have done.

What do you think the below troposphere is going to do? That's right! Rush in to fill the void! That's right this creates disturbances around that area and you've all seen what dominoes do! ..

Do I really need to mention what kind of lightning effects could be sparked by this technology?

Oh.. and why is it LIMITED to just the ionospehere? What about the stated use for under-sea commo? Learn the tech?

This can 100% control the weather..

Now.. Let's say we have 10 countries that obtain this tech (and already have in some ways I'm sure) and you take these said 10 countries and you coordinate an assault on a specific region.

This technology has the potential to do great good but also horrific bad. Personally I feel that as a whole it will be used for the good. But do not underestimate the potential of 1 person, or 10 people coordinated, to do something you can't even dream of.

At Tom Bearden's website there was an anon someone claiming to have been dealing with the Russians in using this tech to cause rain in their country that was experiencing a drought. It was claimed the Russians were wanting 10% of the GNP of the farming if the weather was delivered as promised. No I can't prove any of this being true but as time goes by and stories like this thread keep popping up...

Well.. It's just dern scary now isn't it?

Have a rain free day!

b

I wouldn't worry about another HARP facility. There is no proof of it really doing anything, especially mind control. If you have proof that it has been used in mind control, lets see the proof. If you have proof that it has changed the weather, lets see the proof.

Your TV is a better mind control devise than any HARP facility; and ALL of us know that. How much time do people spend watching TV? We all know that some of the commercials on TV are meant for mind control, to make you want to buy such and such product. For me it's FOOD, I see a food commercial and man-o-man, I want to go out and sink my teeth into some tasty food, and savor the taste.

If your country wants to create rain, its definitely using the wrong method, that is if they really want to get rain. But, good luck, and you have a good thread, and you did a lot of work; I can see it has you wondering, but I wouldn't worry about it.