Israel Should Move to Canada or Alaska, Ahmadinejad Says

Originally posted by Lug
What do you know of these indian nations that existed before the flood of Europeans came? But, most of all, where do you get the idea that they were all savages?

I only know what I read and I'm sure the same applies to you unless of course you found a way to travel back in time.

You talking about Christianity?

No.

Originally posted by intrepid
Sure they had battles but I don't know of them attempting genocide.

Exactly, you don't know.

Originally posted by Operation AJAX
Wow, quite shocking but it does shine some light as to where your thought porcesses roam: Hint a dark and oh so scary place.

I guess its better than your brainwashed, politically correct & lame place.

To simply dissmiss them as "savages" is the height of ignorance IMHO.

You are entitled to your wrong opinion.

Also if the Americas was such a wasteland then why come at all?

Don't put words in my mouth! Where did I say the land was a wasteland?
They settled here because of the land and NOT the inhabitants.

Also they were "Green" before it became trendy in our day and age

Now thats funny!
Of course they were 'green'. Last I checked, they did not have coal energy & nuclear energy technology back then.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you skipped history one day and went to see the Rambo marathon down at the Bijou. But this type of mindless chest thumping patritism seems to have afflicted many these days

And as usual you would be wrong and your sly comments and attempt at humor does not bode well for you.
The Rambo marathon would be better than the PC dribble you are posting.

Oh the irony, you just refered to the native Americans as savages yes a meer few sentacnes later proclaim yourself to be "tolerant"

Do you always put words in peoples mouths or do you intentionally misrepresent what a person said in order to further your lame point.
Where did I say I was tolerant? I am not tolerant of PC and lunatics like we have in Iran.

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glad your not G-D you'd have to get rid of everyone so you could live in your perfect world ? i'm a fine one to talk---i'd like to run away and hide myself---i get tired of hearing complaints---now if only everyone would just mind their own buisness and love their neighbours as themselves---it could be a great world to live in---one of these days it will be that way !

Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan
Don't put words in my mouth! Where did I say the land was a wasteland?
They settled here because of the land and NOT the inhabitants.

Right here-

The land was NOT a nation when the first people from overseas occupied the land. Its was a desolate wasteland with nothing but savages roaming around. They lost, we won. End of discussion.

That's quite a statement.

Sorry mods, I'm out of here with my off topic comments, but I could't let this one slide by.

Originally posted by Lug
That's quite a statement.

Sorry mods, I'm out of here with my off topic comments, but I could't let this one slide by.

Why is that quite a statement?
There is nothing to let slide by. Wow, I did use the word 'wasteland'. It must be a huge conspiracy.

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i'm at one end of town and the indian reserve is at the other end of town---the canadian government pays for their electric bill--builds them a new home--lets them buy cars/trucks tax free--pays for a college education for them--feeds them.i know some of the nice ones--their ok--the rest are hooked on drugs--drunk most of the time--and start lots of fights--the police spend more time there( if they arent harassing us for driving a hair too fast) over drunken fights than dealing with serious crimes such as murder and assaults and break and enters in the white community.the indian kids at school are allowed to gang up and beat on our kids and the school and cops dont want to get involved---maybe if you lived here and experienced their behaviour you wouldn't be so critical of what you think i'm saying to be wrong ?like i've said before--i hate no one but i'm not so stupid that i want to look for or live next door to obvious trouble.

is the president of Iran a lunatic? not from what I heard. try reading the full transcript from his visit to Columbia University. He seems to be pretty smart, and clearly states where Iran stands on subjects like terrorism and Israel. By "wiped off the map" he means that the map should be rewritten, obviously without israil being in that location. he does not say wiped off the map meaning nuked, or "turned into glass" which is what i used to think about the middle east until doing some research. and whos to say they even want nuclear weapons? how does anyone know? the IAEA who is supposedly the credible source for that type of information, says they are not striving to produce nukes, but energy. and if Osama or anyone who was supposedly involved in terrorist attacks was caught in Iran, they would not be helped out. they would be hung, because that is how their justice works there. Osama is wanted in Iran, and Iran supports terrorists no more than America does, which is not saying much considering there is documented cases in which America trained and supported terrorists in the middle east to wreak havoc on American enemies. What it comes down to is they are trying to make Iran sound bad so the Americans will support an invasion, and the reason for that invasion is the same reason we invaded Iraq- because they decided to start taking non-american currencies in exchange for the oil. im sure there a many countries around the world, and people in this country, who think bush and cheney are lunatics

Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan
I guess its better than your brainwashed, politically correct & lame place.

Ah yes the old ad hominem. Yes perhaps Im a bit guilty myself but you my friend have honed it to quite an artform.

The Rambo marathon would be better than the PC dribble you are posting.

Some sound advice, when you go on these extended chest thumping rampages, please try to thump in a differnt place from time to time. Its gotta hurt what with you basically spewing the same tired old Bush 2000 / 2004 campaign rhetoric. If it wasn't so tragic and indicative of the mindless patriotism that has afflicted many in our country it could almost be funny....... Ah what the heck you are amusing in a sad sort of way.

Do you always put words in peoples mouths or do you intentionally misrepresent what a person said in order to further your lame point.
Where did I say I was tolerant? I am not tolerant of PC and lunatics like we have in Iran.

Does this ring a bell?

It has nothing to do with the color of skin.

You are implying no bias exists here yet you refer to Native Americans as savages? Come on how are we going to have a rational debate on any topic if YOU do not even bother paying attention to the rhetoric spewing forth from you

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Originally posted by Operation AJAX
You are implying no bias exists here yet you refer to Native Americans as savages? Come on how are we going to have a rational debate on any topic if YOU do not even bother paying attention to the rhetoric spewing forth from you

Sorry but no, thats not what I was implying. You are reading what you want to see.

reply to post by NovusOrdoMundi


Israel must punch the lights-out of neighbors or regional threats, threatening their existence, Does anyone really feel Palestine would stand in the way of a massive wmd assault on Israel from extremist koranians?

Come now, the power is not anything less than Iranian propaganda.

Dallas

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Yes the Iranian president came a quite a shock to many people here in the US. Not quite the boogyman or raving lunatic the US media made him out to be.

Originally posted by Operation AJAX
Yes the Iranian president came a quite a shock to many people here in the US. Not quite the boogyman or raving lunatic the US media made him out to be.

Of course he is a raving lunatic, just not a stupid one. Please tell me you don't actually think he was telling the truth and saying what he really means. He is going to spew his propaganda and say exactly what you want to hear in order to sway gullible minds. Apparently you fit into this catagory.

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*ring* *ring* Hello pot? its the kettle..... your black

I could just as easily paint you as tool of the neocons pulling your strings like a lifeless puppet but that would be waaaaay too easy eh?

You seem so caught up in your own rhetoric that you cannot see past it at all. You (at least in your online persona) seem to be the VERY thing you accuse me of albiet from a different perspective for sure.

Israel is like a child who goes around the school yard kicking his class mates in the B***s, then when one of the classmates has the nerve to fight back Israel runs to mommy and plays victim.


these brave IDF forces, we should all be proud of them fighting off these savages who dare protest!.

WARNING: Somewhat graphic there is a little bit of blood
Its nothing major, just a bit of blood on a guys head, but I thought I should warn anyway.






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Israel is like a grown-up giving, giving and giving just to behold another Palestinian homicide bomber blows up another wedding and the people within.

Let Israel control the region. Seems to me there will be the peace.

Dallas

Originally posted by Dallas
Let Israel control the region. Seems to me there will be the peace.

Do you really believe it is that simple? Isreal does in a way controll a huge chunk of the region and yet there is still no peace. Both sides are to blame for sure.

But are you advocating genocide? or some sort of totalitarian controll over the total region? The irony of that line of thought is that someone already thought of it:

I shall give a propagandist reason for starting the war, no matter whether it is plausible or not. The victor will not be asked afterwards, whether he told the truth or not. When starting and waging war it is not right that matters but victory. Close your hearts to pity. Act brutally, eighty million people must obtain what is their right. Their existence must be made secure. The strongest man is right.
Source

I sincerly hope that genocide is not what you are advocating?

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reply to post by Dallas

The same Israel that is immune to international sanctions and requirements?
The Same Israel who shoots and often kills simple protesters who dare to protest a fence which is being built to keep them out of their own land?
Same Israel that is responsible for the Liberty attack? google U.S.S Liberty...


What would you say if dubya started ordering American protesters to be shot for simply exercising their born rights?


What would you say if I came onto YOUR property and built a fence well inside of YOUR property line, and then claimed it as mine and kept you from entering it? and then shoot you if you decide to try and fight for it back?








I don't know why the heck Americans pledge some ignorant blind alligence to Israel? is is because they aren't arab? because they aren't muslim? please tell me?


When your enemy is allied with the worlds superpower, when your enemy is allowed to break U.N mandates while you yourself are not, if your enemy possess the most advanced military weapons and tech, while any chance you have of even having a chance, is taken away form you, you have only one thing left to do, Improvise.

Killing innocents is wrong, on both sides Israel does it every day on massive scale yet it gos unnoticed, but the occasional bomb belt goes off its all over the news.. because a brown guy with a beard did it....

Israel isn't out Ally, they are our enemy, they are the very people our constitution speaks against, tyrants, they abuse the born rights of man, they violate everything in the books, but its ok because they are our ally.

We shouldn't be siding with either side in this age old battle, it isn't our war, much less all you Christians that for some odd reason seem to be Israe'sl buddy, you do know they are about as similar to your region as Islam is.. so i really don't understand the blind alligence, unless you are just simply racist and intolerant.

both of which one would think would be unchristian like, and lets not even begin to talk about that whole turn the other cheek thing, it kinda goes against the whole pounding the drum of war thing ...







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Look move the Jews here to TX, we will take them...HAPPILY! We have lots of space and I cant remember the last time I saw a muslim. Hot here too, so no need to buy new clothes. Bring the guns, doctors, and military....Hell bring it all...Our oil money is spent on football and BIG deer. Not suicide bombers and hash. And if a muslim leader calls for the destruction of TX we will nuke em.......and watch it all on CNN with a cold beer and Kosher chili.

Originally posted by 4thDoctorWhoFan

Originally posted by intrepid
Sure they had battles but I don't know of them attempting genocide.

Exactly, you don't know.

Oh yes I do. Look into the introduction of small pox on the native population. Google's a good tool. You probably won't find it in a school book.