John Lear........disinfo agent???

So john, some of the information you'd know is false yet on another you are right to the point.
Does this mean that your are a disinfo agent.
I doubt it.
Not everybody has answers to everything.
Sometimes we get things right, sometimes we get things wrong.
People are free to believe whatever they wish.
Even if you are, for the sake of the argument, a disinfo agent, everybody here can choose not to read your post and completely dismiss it.
If you are spreading false information on purpose, I think you are wise enough to know that every intention, whether good or bad will fall back on your conscience.
Natural law has an uncanny way of revealing itself to humans with a corresponding reaction down the line however small or big

reply to post by WeaponsOfMassDistraction


i saw mr moores movie it was the worst 5 dollars i ever spent. to use a one sided idiot as a sourse of info. you can do better than that. i didnt know about the fbi and the pro-peace group and if it was in that film i dont remember it. ill look into it.

to mr. lear you were also in the cia from what i understand and quite an accomplished test pilot. i dont know much about your theroies but i have been looking into them. some do seem a little far out there. but if what i have been reading about is true you would know better than me

[edit on 15amu42007 by DaleGribble]

Originally posted by DaleGribble
ive been researching mister leer and i have to say his resume is quite impressive to say the least. i believe we should give him a little more credit.

[edit on 15pmu82007 by DaleGribble]

Sure, if you consider he got fired or every place he worked ended up out of business. If you or I had that many different unsuccessful jobs in our lifetime, would our resumes be considered impressive.....or just embarrassing? Think it through a little man......

reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts

Sure, if you consider he got fired or every place he worked ended up out of business

Thats the story of life. Some take it as it is handed to them and live happily ever after. Than theres people who make there life exciting by living on the edge. I got fired from jobs, owned my own business and I'm still a human being enjoying whats left of life. As for John being associated in failing business's, he states the business's were questionable. So it's not his doing they went down. He was just employed there.

Originally posted by WorldShadow
reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts

 

Sure, if you consider he got fired or every place he worked ended up out of business

Thats the story of life. Some take it as it is handed to them and live happily ever after. Than theres people who make there life exciting by living on the edge. I got fired from jobs, owned my own business and I'm still a human being enjoying whats left of life. As for John being associated in failing business's, he states the business's were questionable. So it's not his doing they went down. He was just employed there.

So moving from a known questionable business to another known questionable business does not indicate anything about a person's decision making abilities, logic + reason, and common sense? I can see that happening once or twice in life, but most learn from their mistakes, don't they?

At least he can supplement his income with the disinfo checks he gets monthly from the government.

(all tung in cheek here, and John knows it, so don't get your panties in a wad)

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts

all tung in cheek here, and John knows it, so don't get your panties in a wad)

Thanks for your post IgnoreTheFacts. I think you have chosen a particlarly appropriate username.

Thanks again.

reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts

So moving from a known questionable business to another known questionable business does not indicate anything about a person's decision making abilities, logic + reason, and common sense? I can see that happening once or twice in life, but most learn from their mistakes, don't they?

Thats how you get the inside scoop, the dirt, the totally happenin goings on, inclusion, secret info and all the story time one needs. You think a squeaky clean 9 to 5 citizen knows anything to talk about at the dinner table. Btw, I don't wear panties, boxers it is, if you need to know.

Best regards,

Originally posted by WorldShadow
Thats how you get the inside scoop, the dirt, the totally happenin goings on, inclusion, secret info and all the story time one needs. You think a squeaky clean 9 to 5 citizen knows anything to talk about at the dinner table. Btw, I don't wear panties, boxers it is, if you need to know.

Getting fired gets you better info? I don't think so. IF YOU WERE INTERESTED a much better way to get inside info is to at least pretend to be a 9-5 perfect employee, who can be trusted, is reliable, etc.

If I were a 'manager' with info to impart (Civil Service: UFO Manager II, I can see it now!) I would choose the stable employee as opposed to the guy with attitude.

reply to post by schuyler


Hey - didn't you hop on board here a few months back specifically LOOKING for such a job? I seem to remember suggesting a few potential black-paychecks you might check out.

How'd that hunt go 'fer ya? I would think if there were any such recruiter-lurkers on here they would have found your none-too-subtle inquiry.

Come to think of it, maybe John himself can point you in the right direction if you're still on-the-market. When I saw him in San Jose he seemed very 'receptive'.

Good luck, Schuyler - and let me know how it goes (so I can hit you up for a referral once you're in).

Oh yes - to answer the OP and not stray TOO far off-topic:

I believe there are indeed plenty of disinfo agents amongst us. I'm also reasonably confident that Mr. Lear is not one of them...

[edit on 9/17/2007 by Outrageo]

reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts


Would he know better than you or would he just have a hell of a good reason to lie?

Originally posted by uberarcanist
I don't for a minute think he's an idiot. His military experience is extensive and he's probably had one hell of an education. He ought to know what he is posting is scientifically unsound, and I think this is the one of the strongest pieces of evidence that his posts are deliberate disinfo.

An effective disinfo campaign mixes truth with fiction so as to muddy the waters and lend suspicion to the truth. What interests me isn't the entire yarn he spins but the nuggets of truth that may be contained within. . . Assuming he is disinfo; what truths do you think lie in the story.

I am personally leaning toward disinfo agent, (along with Lazar who probably is telling some truth as well).

i think i remember the fbi and the pro-peace group. i seem to remember seeing something on the history channel about this. thats totaly diffrent activist have a history of becomeing volent to get a point across.

to say the least that is far from what i see us here at ats. as for mister lear being disinfo i fail to see the gain here. maybe im just blind and dumb but i just cant make the connection..

All John Lear is, is a boy who never matched his fathers accomplishments and wanted to be famous.

His is Mr. Lears average boy...and he hates it.

Nothing more.

Well, I don't know that much about John, sorry John, but if I were a disinfo. agent, I would be more likely to fly under the radar, be more subtle and try to NOT be noticed.

reply to post by johnlear

The 'infinite mind' could be called 'God' but its not. "God' is a concept that is easier to grasp for humans.

Exactly, We are the total of our experiences, this is what makes us who we are.

Trapped on this planet, or dimension, limits our experiences, so we hypothesis and theories.

Has everthing that can be thought with our limited imagination, been thought, on the earthly plane of existence?

John isn't a disinformation agent. The whole "nonsense" about reptilians, grays, and so on, is real.

Originally posted by Black Flag

All John Lear is, is a boy who never matched his fathers accomplishments and wanted to be famous.

His is Mr. Lears average boy...and he hates it.

Nothing more.

Thanks for the post Black Flag. There are many who would agree with you.

If my father were still alive he would certainly agree with you and second your motion. Thats why he only left me one dollar when he passed away, he said he didn't want to give me the means to destroy myself and those around me.

You may have missed my summary of my existance which I have posted many times so here it is again:

I am not the brightest crayon in the box;
I am extremely lazy;
I have a smart mouth;
and real poor ******* attitude.

Thanks for the post and I agree with you 100%.

reply to post by johnlear

I am not the brightest crayon in the box;

HEY

Originally posted by Black Flag
All John Lear is, is a boy who never matched his fathers accomplishments and wanted to be famous.

His is Mr. Lears average boy...and he hates it.

Nothing more.

Far be it from me, but I am compelled to say that was nothing more than a mean, harsh statement, and rude as well. And this is coming from a HUGE anti John Lear guy. There is enough holes in every one of his ridiculous stories to point out, no need to get done to that level to discredit his foolishness.

See John, even when I defend you I can find a way to turn it against you, lol.

I know, I know.....thanks for the post.

reply to post by Black Flag


If that is the case, it should still be a great mystery to everyone why he is posting what is almost certainly disinfo. How many birds has he test-flown? How many records does he have under his belt? If he wants to fill his father's shoes, why doesn't he shoot for an x-prize or some kind of ultra long-distance flight?