Osama Bin Laden Video Discussion and Updates

reply to post by Night Watchman


Islamist murdering pigs?

So because many American Soldiers have committed murder (their is a number of threads here about the recent mass murder of Iraqi women and children which US soldiers have confessed to) it is ok for me to call them American murdering pigs?

I wonder how many people who are Islamic you actually know?

Most Americans i have met are very nice. Same for Islamic people.

reply to post by 11 11


Ok. You know what? Bin Laden's bad, and since Bush is my president, I'll understate and say Bush's motives are "suspect".

But here's how you know what side you are on in this whole conflict: If it came down to the two, if America was a guy, and Islamic Fundamentalism with a twist of Terrorism (IFWATT) was a guy, who whould you sit down and have a beer with?

You'd sit down with America and have a beer. You know why? Because people in Islamic states that support terrorism don't drink beer, and they wont sit down with you and talk about what we people in the free world talk about. Having fun, and living well. They can't understand that. It's not a part of the culture.

Agent Violet, I promise you, if Islam won, you would not be looking so cute. As a matter of fact, no one would be able to see your face, because it would be under a black cloth. It's a little hard to talk on your iPhone when you can't go out in public without having all of your skin covered.

Oh yeah, and there's a slight, maybe longer than expected learning curve when it comes to learning Farsi.

So forgive me if I get a little peeved when someone who has killed 3000 of my fellow New Yorkers, tells me that my way of life is wrong and that I should convert to an ancient culture...Or else!

Wake up, people.

Hi,

I'm new here, I had to add my 2 cents:

Iran/ OSB is fanatical, opressive and in the end will eventually become democratic as will the whole world. Religion is a mans right to choose whether buddism, muslim or whatever. Who has the right to impose as such? GO USA! p.s OSB see the fruits of your labor!

Originally posted by Night Watchman

I don't watch Fox News don't let the truth stand in the way. Iraq was not about 9/11. Afghanistan was a direct and completely justifiable reaction to the attacks of 9/11. At the time, we had the support of most of the world in taking that action.

At that time the world was still responding emotionally to a series of graphic images and unending analysis and headlines relating to this 'attack'. Time has moved on and in all seriousness 3000 foregners isn't really that big a deal for most people.

How many people dies in the Boxing day Tsunami? A hell of a lot more than died at the WTC and yet that doesn't dominate news rooms and public thought?

Why do you suppose this is???

Because nobody has anything to gain from it, so ask yourself who is perpetually raising this sorry saga to kkep it in the front of people's minds and who is profiting from it???

Do you think the corporate media sells a few more papers whenever OBL, 9/11 or Alquaeda are on the front page?

Of course it does.

Do you think that conservative/fascist opportunits pigs (politicians) get more votes for sounding tough about 'Terrorsim' when it is in the media all the time to frighten people???

Of course they do.

If you read the transcript of this video release today you will not be reading the rhetoric of a hate filled psychopath but some well reasoned and valid points. OBL must know that to have a place in the world he must come to terms with countries like the US, EU, China and Russia because against them he can only be a constant threat and never a serious contender. Provoking the US by terrorism ON ITS HOME SOIL would do nothing at all for his cause. An invitation to join Islam is not something I will accept personally but such an invitation must be admired for it's simple politeness. So much nicer than having the bloody mor(m)ons of jehova's witnesses hanging off the doorbell and shoving their grotty books in your face.

Open your eyes! Just because it was on TV it doesn't make it reality!

Never mind, I answered my own question...

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The left thinking in the USA won't see, for now, until they appreciate the freedom they have to think and post here and any other freedom of the press. The right in America that defends them from their own thinking unlike radical islam (I wont capitalize islam for now)...............Thank God, whoever he is, that's a freedom in itself....Would Iran or Osama give you that right? -Think again

Bin Laden is like Tupac. Releasing all these videos long after he actually died. Normally, i would never reference Fox News but this is interesting:

Fox News 2001 News Item....Bin Laden Is Dead

How can they possibly comment on a new fresh Bin Laden video when they have already reported he died?

ON TOPIC:

Does anyone know who or which organization did the translation of this tape?

The internet has brought us all to a new world "brain", perhaps we need to be free of others telling us what we should wear, what we should believe, etc. Thank God for Bush.......Most hated Lincoln at the time too. Look at the the record.

reply to post by geek101


Hehe... like that would have been the first time Fox "reported" BS?

I really don't know if Osama is alive or dead, but it ultimately doesn't matter. The "Idea" of Bin Laden has become more potent than the Man himself.

Kinda like The Dread Pirate Roberts from "The Princess Bride"
Or James Bond.

Doesn't matter who the man is, as long as he's in the role the name and power lives on.

reply to post by jasonmod


You know what? I admire you for your bravery in standing by Bush. I don't agree with everything he does, but I do agree with you. That we have freedoms as Americans that are unprecedented in this world, and we should appreciate them.

And honestly, I think that if I met Bush, it would be hard for me not to like him. I heard he's a really nice guy.

This is why I think the terrorists are wrong, no matter how many people our side killed: TERRORISTS ARE PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. It's just not manly. The worst kind of people are the type that take advantage of public trust, and then stab people in the back...And that's what the terrorists are trying to do. That's there whole game.

I admit there's a fight. But if you are going to fight, come out fighting!

I think all of those aliens (grays) are passive aggressive too. If they want to take over their planet, why don't they just come out and do it, if they have all of this "advanced technology?" Why create some grand conspiracy that stretches over 70 years to bring humans under control?

They must have no power. They must be kitties, just like the terrorists.

Spot the difference.

I wasnt aware they had hair dye in caves.

He looks alot fatter in the face also. Could this be a different fella? Or could it be "Pimp my Osama"

Edit:- The photo on the left is from a 2004 video, the photo of the right is his latest video


[edit on 8-9-2007 by SmokeyJo]

Originally posted by BitRaiser
reply to post by geek101

 

Hehe... like that would have been the first time Fox "reported" BS?

I really don't know if Osama is alive or dead, but it ultimately doesn't matter. The "Idea" of Bin Laden has become more potent than the Man himself.

Absolutely true...but isn't it amazing that they can have that kind of arrogance...to be so complacent about it. Not even bothering to retract their previous report that he had died.
It's almost like they know that the average person is so easy to fool these days that they don't have to put any effort into it.
Who gives a toss...we report he died, we report he makes a new video....you'll believe what we report, whatever we report.
Fair and Balanced...heh heh

Untill I actully meet a "Grey" I'll totally side with you.......I'll admit I'm not a socialist or a fascist, that brings me to the point of the American cause of moderation/ our checks and balances........Freedom to believe without the tyranny of religion and the seperation of church and state......that's totally Punk Rock in it's oldesst form...

Jason

Originally posted by windwaker
reply to post by jasonmod

 

This is why I think the terrorists are wrong, no matter how many people our side killed: TERRORISTS ARE PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE. It's just not manly. The worst kind of people are the type that take advantage of public trust, and then stab people in the back...And that's what the terrorists are trying to do. That's there whole game.

George Bush said said the International Atomic Energy Agency had produced a report in 1998 noting that Iraq was six months from developing a nuclear weapon; no such report existed (and the IAEA had actually reported then that there was no indication Iraq had the ability to produce weapons-grade material).

He then sent young men and women to get killed in a war in Iraq.

During his presidential campaign, Mr Bush said "The vast majority of my [proposed] tax cuts go to the bottom end of the spectrum."

A report by Citizens for Tax Justice, figured that 42.6 percent of Bush's $1.6 trillion tax package would end up in the pockets of the top 1 percent of earners.

I agree.....taking advantage of public trust is a horrible thing to do.

reply to post by the titor experience


This is the curse of the situation. Because we have a president in office who is morally incorrect, people are distracted by his antics, and seeking balance, try to justify the opposition, whose just as evil. This distracts people from reason.

I leave Bush out of my comments because I dont want to distract people from how dangerous Bin Laden, Al Queda and Fundamental Islam in the Middle East (not the muslim citizens or Islam in England, America or Canada) is.

I'll be blunt since you are from Canada. If your culture is even remotely based on Western culture and Western Civilization, you have a lot to fear. Fundamental Islam does not like your way of life, plain and simple. You are an infidel.

That was the conclusion of the entire International Community at the time, my friend. Get the Facts straight, okay. Before sounding like a typical conspiracy fool, like others..In fact, (Imay sound mean), Go to Iran and post this stuff........See how that goes and then complain based on that FACT

Why does it say "ignore this user" on here? Are only conspiracy pot smokers allowed on here?

This site is obviously not a democracy but a socialist/ fascist site based on what they want you to hear....... I dare thenm to post what I just wrote, this will prove it..

reply to post by windwaker


Ah but why do you choose to stay quiet on one danger, but not the other?

I am against fundamentalist religion of any type. Most christians dont like my ways because id switch off my mums life support if she were going to die a slow, painful death in a vegetative state. They would call me a murderer and headed straight for hell. And you had better believe if they had been subject to the same sort of opression, manipulation and invasion by a foreign Government just as the USA has behaved towards many Islamic people, Christians would be lining up to be martyrs.

That being said, all the Islamic people i have ever met have been wonderfully nice and hospitable to me - same for Americans. Most people do not want war......and if you read Bin Ladens speech and consider it in its entirety i get the impression he is saying leave us alone and we will leave you alone, but he is resigned to the fact it wont happen and that the only response to American murder which America will listen to is murder in return.

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.