US Troops deployed to Washington D.C.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Jsobecky, dismount your high horse.

Something's up or will be up very soon. Maybe its the airforce because of the mass alien landing today.

Well........

Today, dg? What time? I want to see that.

Originally posted by jsobecky
Today, dg? What time? I want to see that.

Today at 12:00 noon East coast time..........right after Bush resigns and "Dick" is sworn in at Prez...........Newt will become VP and the bombs will fall on Iran by "Tea Time"

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Originally posted by astmonster

Originally posted by jsobecky
Today, dg? What time? I want to see that.

Today at 12:00 noon East coast time..........right after Bush resigns and "Dick" is sworn in at Prez...........Newt will become VP and the bombs will fall on Iran by "Tea Time"

Wow, sounds like a busy day! I wonder what the aliens have planned for after dinner time?

Will this pre-empt the RedSox-Yankees series in the Bronx?

I love this place. "Intelligent, educated discussion", 24x7.

Just out of curiosity and tactical viewpoint:
Why arent US authorities deploying AEGIS equipped warships into the vicinity of the DC? They would be far more effective against any incoming threats than tactical level Avengers. And they wouldn't cause suspicions like ground troops do...

Originally posted by jsobecky


I love this place.

"Intelligent, educated discussion", 24x7.

YOU are out of the loop. you dont know whats going on. You really should be here more often. If i didnt like ya so much i'd tell you to go pound sand.

Get intelligence and educate yourself as to what is happening in this world.

xoxoxo

Are you implying i'm off the wall???

Several people have mentioned the posse comitatus act, which is highly relevant to the discussion at hand.

Unfortunately, this act too, like so many others pertaining to fundamental freedoms in exceptional circumstances, has been deeply undermined by the administration.

Here's a link to the relevant--and deeply depressing NY Times editorial, entitled "Making Martial Law Easier"

A disturbing recent phenomenon in Washington is that laws that strike to the heart of American democracy have been passed in the dead of night. So it was with a provision quietly tucked into the enormous defense budget bill at the Bush administration's behest that makes it easier for a president to override local control of law enforcement and declare martial law.

The provision, signed into law in October, weakens two obscure but important bulwarks of liberty. One is the doctrine that bars military forces, including a federalized National Guard, from engaging in law enforcement. Called posse comitatus, it was enshrined in law after the Civil War to preserve the line between civil government and the military. The other is the Insurrection Act of 1807, which provides the major exemptions to posse comitatus. It essentially limits a president's use of the military in law enforcement to putting down lawlessness, insurrection and rebellion, where a state is violating federal law or depriving people of constitutional rights.

...Beyond cases of actual insurrection, the president may now use military troops as a domestic police force in response to a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, terrorist attack or to any "other condition."

So posse comitatus has been gutted.

But dont worry! We're in good hands. Sleep tight, all.

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Originally posted by northwolf
Just out of curiosity and tactical viewpoint:
Why arent US authorities deploying AEGIS equipped warships into the vicinity of the DC? They would be far more effective against any incoming threats than tactical level Avengers. And they wouldn't cause suspicions like ground troops do...

First of all, we don't know that they haven't.

I don't think they have full confidence in airport security, and the air defense is designed for the possibility of hijackings like 9/11. And what better air defense than the Raptor?

Originally posted by dgtempe
YOU are out of the loop. you dont know whats going on.

Yeah, and if believing that mass aliens will be landing in DC at 12 noon is out of the loop, that's where I'll stay, thank you.

Originally posted by dgtempe
Get intelligence and educate yourself as to what is happening in this world.

It's not my place to tell anyone what to believe in, but I'm educated and intelligent enough to leave at least one foot planted on this big baloon called Planet Earth.

If you and your ideas can't take the spotlight or a little criticism, maybe you shouldn't resort to such a defensive posture.

Tchek this out :

More Metro Stations Shut Down By Smoke (in Washington DC)

More Metro Stations Shut Down By Smoke (in Washington DC)

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Originally posted by gottago
Several people have mentioned the posse comitatus act, which is highly relevant to the discussion at hand.

Unfortunately, this act too, like so many others pertaining to fundamental freedoms in exceptional circumstances, has been deeply undermined by the administration.
:
So posse comitatus has been gutted.

But dont worry! We're in good hands. Sleep tight, all.

Pleas fix your link.

Old news, and a response to the fiasco caused by incompetent state and local gov't in NOLA during Katrina.

Originally posted by Pootie
Are you stating that they are relieving troops already stationed in DC?
If so I believe you are incorrect.

We drive through DC a lot. On the beltway I have seen anti-aircraft defenses stationary on the side of the road many times. I didn't see them before 9/11. But I have seen them plenty of times since. They aren't 'new' .. new as in just coming out now.

Originally posted by 11 11
if I did a report for every location that we deployed our troops, you would think we are in the middle of WW3.

We ARE in WWIII.

Originally posted by ~Vixen~
Unfortunately most people have become complacent since 9/11, .

I agree. Except that I agree in regards to the fact that people have become complacent in so far as they have FORGOTTEN that the radical Islamic terrorists are real ... are deadly .. and are not done with us here in the USA.

Originally posted by jigglybits
I'm used to seeing them in their running gear and doing early morning jogs. Recently they were in full battle gear, rifles and everything and they actually marched of base and began a slow run away from the base.

No big deal. We used to do our morning PT ... and then every so often we would be in full BDU with (unloaded) weapons ... shuffling off for a early morning march or 'jog'. Fort Hood was big enough that we never had to go 'off base' ... we'd use the back roads. Same when I was stationed at Fort Dix. Again ... no big deal.

Originally posted by Leyla
Several targets are mentioned: the Sears tower, A Roman CC, ...

Which Roman Catholic Cathedral? ST Patricks in NYC? The Basillica in DC? There are a few biggies??? I'm curious. Thanks.

Originally posted by uknumpty
Why the hell would Chavez want to do that?

Because he's a power crazed LOON who wants to be dictator of Venezuela ...(and he's well on the road to that) .. and he wants to be the one to bring down the USA and put that as a feather in his cap. He said so in a major speech he gave in IRAN (to thunderous applause).

IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO - ya'll are getting wigged out because of a natural duty rotation. And when the Radical Islamics strike again .. and they WILL .. if the troops were not in place ya'll would be screaming that Bush 43 was incompetent and should be impeached.

I can't decide if this is :shk: or

Originally posted by jsobecky


If you and your ideas can't take the spotlight or a little criticism, maybe you shouldn't resort to such a defensive posture.

Hmmm.. take your grumpy pills today?
Remind me not to joke with you anymore.

Well, I don't know how reliable this info is, but I have family in the DC area off 14 st, and they said that they have been talking about reopening one of the closed bases there ( in DC ) because the housing market has been almost non existant since 9/11. It an effort to make the area feel secure, and try to get people to buy houses in and around the area again. I don't know if it is true or not, but it might make sense.

My concern is that if we go to war with Iran we are going to war with their alies. If they decide to hit us first we are going to war with who ever they decide is the threat rather than who may have started the problem such as a dirty nuk set off in some U.S. location. Remember the Mo of the current administration " There are weapons of mass destruction..." So look at this from a financial gain point of view, yes Halliburton needs to build more mess halls and feed more soldiers, but who will really stand to gain from an all out war? I really do not think that they want to be sent back into the stone ages and they know that that is a very real situation on their hands if they do decide to set off any thing in the U.S. And hand to hand combat with the fully armed and ready American citizens would be just foolish, heck they couldnt even get past the good ol boys...

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Yes it seems that Mr. Bush got that one cover, here is another link that works.

www.globalresearch.ca...

Public Law 109-364, or the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" (H.R.5122) (2), which was signed by the commander in chief on October 17th, 2006, in a private Oval Office ceremony, allows the President to declare a "public emergency" and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to "suppress public disorder."

That takes care of The Insurrection Act (10 U.S.C.331 -335) has historically, along with the Posse Comitatus Act (18 U.S.C.1385) like I said before Bush is a dangerous man that has taken care of every angle of his presidency in case of A act of terrorism or else.

I think this is the right message. When will enough be enough before it is to late? A little off topic, but i think it is relevant.

www.youtube.com...

Its been mentioned by others in this thread that air defense units would serve no purpose against a popular uprising. Its also been mentioned that the military (at least some or most of it) would not get behind the idea of Bush claiming dictatorial power. However, if an emergency were to be declared (after some "terrorist attack"), it seems like large parts of the military would support him for a time. Perhaps air defense is needed not only to protect from hijacked planes, but also rogue Air Force units which might try to start something. Just some thoughts...Andy

My personal thoughts are that public opinion is that they see there is no end to the Iraq War and people see that we have our soldiers in harms way for nothing or an oil agenda. I think that most all the Offices such as IRS, CIA, have moved slowly to Denver. I think people are wiseing up to the fact that there is a shadow Government really running things and that we really don't elect a President He is really put in by those in Power now. I don't see anyone I would vote for but they keep pushing Hillary and Edwards in the news which is controlled by the Pentagon. Everything in the news today is FEAR bassed. It is to keep you in the panic mode. I have noticed that 4 girls have kept people busy for a while. Lindsay, Paris Britney, ect. Could this be to keep you busy from seeing what is really going on in the Government? Twenty or thirty years ago, The crap that goes on in the Government would not have went on. People would have been out in the streets raising Hell. People are to busy just trying to survive now, and feel that there is nothing they can do to change what our Government does. They pass Executive Orders and do what they want. People are seeing that the Constitution is being stepped on daily. People are waking up. The only way they can control us in the future is for another 911 to happen. This would cause FEAR and get us under control because we see our Government is Corrupt. We have professional Politicians that have not ever worked a real job and it is a fact that you don't own a major office unless you have a ton of money. Show me someone who won a state or above who did not have millions. Yes, something is going to happen in a major way which will cause mass FEAR. Then they will try to come after your guns, spray the city that it happens with prozac to control them, then we will all have a new card or chip to keep up with you. Just another way to control you that is all. By the way, I have chose not to live in FEAR no matter what happens and I will not be controlled by anyone. Let them do what they want, MY MIND IS STILL FREE AND I WILL NOT BE CONTROLLED! Sorry for the scattered way this was written, I am not a eloquent writter. Maybe you can read between the lines and understand what I meant.

Originally posted by ChrisF231
Well they wouldent send an air artillery unit to perform martial law functions ... that would be performed by the MPs.

This is most likely just another form of beefing up security and indicats that they have a very real substantiated threat

That's why it's perfect, no-one would suspect the fly-boys.

The "put options" thing and now this, looks like the fear tactics are taking another step forward.

Fake some attack then "oh look we are in danger , we have to take more of your freedoms away"

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Yes it's from February, but not old news to this discussion, as those who brought up posse comitatus seem to think it has not been changed to allow for "other conditions."

These newly defined undefined "conditions" could be anything, even, for example, exhibiting condescending know-it-all-ism.