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Originally posted by arius
Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
This is not true i am not attempting to create insurrection in your country, i am asking the american people here on ATS what would be the straw that broke the camels back? and when that straw breaks what would/could you do about it?
Now were being constructive!
As currently stands a significant percentage of the united states population are freedom loving, gun toting, NRA card carrying rugged individualists. Thats what most of the americans I know are like. I think that the world sees what hollywood and our media lets them see. More people know whats going on than you would think. You would really be surprised to know how many people walking around are packing heat. We have a line that just won't be crossed, period. Win, lose or draw it doesn't matter but you'll know we had a hold of you.
With the pep talk finished I think the straw that would break the camels back would be a military take over of mainland USA by our own military or some other direct abrogation of the constitution taking away our right to vote.
Originally posted by Freeborn
Arius,
Do you think that if Bush used The War on Terrorism as an excuse to suspend presidential elections that this would provoke any sort of mass reaction and what form, if any, passive resistance, armed insurrection or what?
Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
you know it makes me laugh , you guys can get rid of one of the most intelligent presidents you have had in recent times for getting a certain [Profanity Removed] 'lady services under a table.' (apologies mod)*
Now this is just my opinion but I still believe that someone else, I dont know who, calls most of the shots in this country and the president is just a puppet.
Originally posted by SwatMedic
First of all, I'd like to know how we "got rid" of that "most intelligent" President.
His time was up, his terms were over, time to step aside.
Bush faces the same thing and will step aside when his time is done.
How can I enter into a rational debate when you start off misrepresenting the facts?
Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
shadow government huh..the miltary machine ? or NWO? in your opinion?
the impeachment was the beginning of the end tho? no? how could a country trust its leader after blatantly lieng to them .
i apoligise for the inacuracy of my clinton assesment , however the above in my 'opinion' is still relavent.
how long did he serve after these events? if it was a long time i am even more worried than when i started the thread.
[edit on 15/8/07 by Quantum_Squirrel]
Originally posted by SwatMedic
If that is not the case and its a serious question that could be posed to any resident of any free country (the UK as well) I would have to say that there probably wouldnt be one thing but a build up of many things that would lead to revolution. Loss of free speech, right to vote etc etc. It would have to be some really agregious things though and I dont believe we are anywhere near something like that happening.
Things certainly arent rosey but an uprising is many decades away.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
The only colossal mistake in Iraq was greatly underestimating the ignorance of the people and the level of evil the terrorist were willing to go.
Originally posted by SwatMedic
Well, if you spend a great deal of time on this board you would certainly think that a revolution is coming. This board is very anti-government and it tilts so far to the left I have a hard time keeping my laptop upright.
Originally posted by SwatMedic
Don't assume too much. Even more moderate and conservative thinkers can see we are headed in the wrong direction and are looking to change course.
Also, change does not HAVE to equal violence. However, if we are presented with violence it would be suicide not respond in a like manner. I, personally, reject violence unless either myself or another is threatened directly.
I would not consider myself a liberal by most standards and I am looking for quick and decisive change. I like the more serious tone this thread is taking. Thanks Squirrel, SwatMedic, et al.
Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
wow dude Deny ignorance remember!!
We went to war with IRAQ under False pretenses WMD..
the 'terrorists' of which i assume you speak are the 9/11 ones? i think they all came from saudi arabia and were trained in afghanistan ( i believe the terrorist training camp videos in Iraq were later proved to be false also)..so now you tell me why are we in IRAQ?..and like my original question states when something is done that is the final nail in the coffin for you .. what would that be? and what would you do ?
i cant believe you would just sit around thinking oh well the terms over in a years time and just sit there and do nothing ..or maybe u would?
[edit on 15/8/07 by Quantum_Squirrel]