natural cures "they" dont want you to know about

well the question is if i get cures from the book and post them will i get sued for copy wright laws or something?

Also you might want to try Naturalcures.com

[edit on 6-11-2007 by tankthinker]

reply to post by annestacey


ok, give me peer-reviewed scientific documents backing his statements. the medical industry has no control over scientific academia, if his claims are true they should be substantiated in literature.

...thing is... they aren't.

i wonder why...

reply to post by DeadFlagBlues


i'm saying most of the "natural cures" are bunk. it's quite obvious that they are, just look at the science of them.
sure, there's plenty that is useful, just an obvious example would be aloe, but mostly it's bunk.

Does anyone have a remedy for a toothache?

The one i got off a website involved putting a potatoe inside a pocket in your clothes on whichever side the toothache is.

I dont have any potatoes. And i'll be darned if i'm going to the store in this pain.

Help!!!

reply to post by dgtempe


That's funny. But here's a remedy I found:

Get some CO Q 10. I and my friends use sofgels containing some kind of oil for better absorbtion. You will be taking several hundred milligrams a day so you may want to obtain softgels or caps containing 100 to 150 milligrams. Take, at least , 200 milligrams four times a day. I've told my friends to "eat them like candy!" Less than 600 to 800 Mgs just prolongs the agony. Take the CO Q 10 for, at least , 3 days or one day beyond the day your infection is cured. CO Q 10 works faster than antibiotics. When you give your body extra CO Q 10, your gums manufacture their own germ killing substance. (Discovered in 2005.) So, you are killing the infection from inside, naturally. And CO Q 10 is a powerful antioxidant, and your heart's energy fuel. Stick with it for a few days. I have never seen it fail. It works for me in 2 to 4 days no matter how bad the infection. My friends report the same.

Source: How to cure a toothache or gum infection without antibiotics.


Of course this probably involves going to the store so you might want to try warm water with salt and vinegar.



[edit on 6-11-2007 by annestacey]

I have read this mans book, and I must say, it is brilliant. I have nothing wrong with me, so I could not try any of his cures. I researched most of the interesting ones, only to be confirmed. I like how he speaks of the FDA's only legal "responsibility", which is, to profit!

science isnt the master of all knowledge, i wouldnt put to much faith in it.

And i agree he is brilliant.

reply to post by tankthinker


really? science seems to be the master of all current human knowledge...
you don't need to place ANY faith in it, just think about things and you'll see that it's science prevailing 10 times out of 10

reply to post by madnessinmysoul


Well everything is science to a degree. Even the benefits of eating a raw days it say, compared to a fast food one, is an obvious science. Do you mean modern medicine? Because that's science too, but let's remember that limb attachments, or surgeries are far out of the context pertaining to the book. I personally have never seen someone become "healthy" taking pharmaceutical cocktails, not saying it doesn't happen, but it's clear to me which route is more beneficial for attaining good health, not sustenance.

Originally posted by xwayne


I'm not "implying" anything: I'm telling you that you can cure and prevent disease in this way; any disease that has advanced too far cannot be cured, obviously.


There's no "herbal junk" about eating fruits and vegetables (preferably organic, and mostly vegetables) and taking mineral supplements. It's accepted, even by your precious medical establishment, that this is healthy. If you don't buy into it, fine. But calling it "crap" and convincing others that chemotherapy is preferable to a healthy lifestyle is immoral.

when one has cancer, the BEST thing they can do is go see a specialist....am i saying that it is all bad to eat all these natural/organic foods like you are saying? no, i am not..

what i AM saying is imo, the advice should be taken from the specialist and also look for alternatives...

things like this..
when they thought i had liver cancer, i was told to increase my intake of vitamin b..helps the liver heal..makes sense...

what i am afraid of though is there will be young/naive/whatever people on here that will pass on this info as gospel..

if you have say, cml like my stepfather has(he is not blasting yet....you even know what that is?), fasting is NOT a good idea....
are fruits and veggies a good idea? of course
but which ones?

my step father LOVES grapefruits and grapefruit juice...with the levels of 'cancer' in his blood plus the gleevac he is on, he can NOT have any grapefruit....why? i don't know.....i am not a doc....
what i do know is for some reason, the combo of cancer/meds/grapefruit can mess him up....

i really don't want people to read this and think they got the cure all from some book or thread like this...

i mean, would the smart play not be go to the cancer specialist....START the treatment immediately and also go see a nutritionist/dietition?
the onco will refer you to on...teach you how to actualy eat right and proper for YOUR ILLNESS.

everyones body is different. genetics are different, etc...

also, sorry but curing heartburn/acne, etc means nothing to me...

i want to see some disease cures.

someone on here said post the disease and they will post the cure..

ok...disease=CML=chronic mylogeneous leukemia..

show me the cure please....

save for gleevac, interfuron, marrow transplants, chemo, please, PLEASE tell me what can cure him.....
thank you very much

reply to post by elusivetruth


...my husband cured, actually cured, himself of Hep C using supplements and herbs......

see its that kind of suff im takin about, curing big bad uncurable diseases with natural cures.

Here's my two cents concerning natural cures.

1. Turmeric - Tons and tons of studies done on its ability to fight cancer, Alzheimer's, MS, inflammation etc.

www.turmeric-curcumin.com...

2. Psilocybin mushrooms - lots of research here also concerning cluster headaches and migraines.

Dr. Andrew Sewell and Dr. John Halpern at McLean Hospital in Boston have investigated the ability of low doses of psilocybin ("magic mushrooms") to treat cluster headaches. Dr. Sewell examined medical records of 53 patients who had taken hallucinogenic mushrooms and reported in Neurology that the majority of them found partial or complete relief from cluster attacks.[18] A clinical study of these treatments under the auspices of MAPS is being developed by researchers at Harvard Medical School, McLean Hospital.[19]

en.wikipedia.org...

www.ouch-us.org...


~odievk

Originally posted by Horus8
Precisely, have you seen a scanner darkly? It really nails down this
most abhorent of facts. That the government for a long long time has been
doping up the youth and the minorities, and the soldiers and the working force to keep them from ever really being awake or stable enough to revolt, or notice just how screwed they really are.

I agree with this; the only reason nobody is in the streets protesting Bush and Co for any of several reasons is that everyone is doped up on Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, etc...All they care about is watching American Idol and eating junk food...then they get sicker and have to spend even more money on drugs.

I just got off all my antidepressants after about 4 months of weaning from them and substituting healthful dietary nutrients. Guess what? I am not depressed and I am very healthy but I am pretty ornery if someone crosses me and no longer a drugged up happy zombie...sort of like people were in the 60s....Stick it to the man!

I guess the "snake" that represents medicine should be a dead give away despite what the arm chair philosophical intellectuals say... that it symbolizes wisdom and other philosophical ideas etc.. Asklepios

Im sure some of you are aware of the Secret Covenant

I think The Secret Covenant just about sums everything up nicely. A healthy society would wreck a very large economic market and a sick society rakes in mega profits for that market. Capitalism doesnt work well when dealing with health.

Personally I wouldnt be surprised if the ones that make the pharmaceuticals that say will heal or alleviate sickness are the ones that put the chemicals with 14+letters in the foods to begin the sickness very early on. (Ends---$$$$$ justifies the means---poison the society)

This is a sore subject for me because what I have observed in my personal experiences with medicines is that they have always wrecked something else in me to make me yet take more medicines to fix what the first pills did.(irreversible) The only thing that stands between me and taking radical effective action towards this dark industry is observance of LAW and the repricutions that would ensue if i did take action..otherwise I would declare my own small private Rambo war (from the pit of hell) on them they would not forget.


[edit on 18-11-2007 by fastwalker23]

I can not believe that I read this entire thread, and now it is late. Do I have any cures? Not really, but look around. First some advice to some people. Attitude may be more important than anything else. A Positive Attitude has helped cancer patients. How does one obtain a positive attitude? First get rid of the negativity that is in this world and is seen or heard everyday in this world. Say 'cancel, cancel' when you have a negative thought and as you catch those thoughts going through your brain. At first it will take time but do it anyway, and then it will get quicker as you have a negative thought, and then after 21-30 days, you will not have those thoughts going through your head to begin with. After that it will take some time for you to have better thoughts and not react but respond better in a few months time. You actually will get stronger physically and emotionally but still it will take some time -- a few months to begin with. Because your brain is soft-wired and not hard-wired so program yourself for betterment by not reacting but being more aware and more alert. Afterall being a lot younger you already do some of this -- naturally anyway. You just have to be aware that you are already doing this to but only a certain degree but that can increase for yourself. Next eating healthy is only part of anything. But still important for the most part. And next - get rid of the ego that surrounds many people and go about everything with Moderation. There I think is no quick cure to begin with, and building up yourself does not mean to go off the other deep end about any of it either, or going down the deep end either. It is finding a center focus -- and that can change but it does take some time and effort. You be surprised at how many people have never done this type of activity because they were too negative in the first place to even begin to try it. It does work. Next can be self-hypnosis also. That is not scary or anything else -- or making you into a zombie, although I suppose some people about try anything also. NO, it is there to make you more grounded and centered and more alert and more focus and more -- Alive! -- than some other people really want to be. It is too easy to be negative in this world and get depressed and anything else then depressed and any of that. That is all too easy to do. That is a Reaction, and a person does not have to react. You will automatically react to anything that is threatening in the first place, and if you do not have to remind yourself about what to really do -- for you will be doing it without bringing it out of yourself first because it was all there in the first place first -- then you will be acting quicker and sooner and more aware in the first place than what you think would ever happen. It would be more automatic but you be more aware of that in the first place. Then eating healthy will help and exercise and studying and having some fun and anything else. Some people do not want others to feel better in the first place. Do not react -- give yourself some respect -- and know more then they wanted to ever learn. It is not hard, there (in my case since I am way older) are self-help tapes, but like anything sometimes -- there is hype and the market place -- and they only want to sell you something -- but you can choose to look first and know that some things will be better in that respect if it is from a professional making the tape cassette or CD in the first place -- not a flyby hype artist who only is there to sell you something while not really having the real knowledge in the first place.

All of that will help to increase your immune system but at the same time -- do not be silly. There will be times when a Doctor is needed, and that is fact. You can only do so much -- and nothing is perfect - and nothing works with 100% guarantees. It will not, but some doctors will not help either, while other are just Better at what they do. I know for fact!

So looking up natural cures for anything or for fixing anything may be fine, but please read the real lines about the print -- it is hype usually and marketing and advertising and it really may not do -- all that you feed yourself into your brain that it will do. You imagine and assume it will do more than what it really can do. Sometimes it just takes time for your body to build up your defenses for a disease and that is that. Some people want an instant cure to anything and there -- is None. Colds are viruses that if they did not die usually in 3 days -- and the aftermath is weeks of symptoms they simply would kill you. That is fact! The reason that most colds do not is because the virus dies but look at how long some of the symptoms remain. Now with anything they are also alive and mutating, so there is a need to go see a Doctor sometimes, and hope they can help. The Adenovirus (spelling?) recently is nothing more than a mutated form of a bad cold virus -- and look -- it is killing some people. Anti-biotics are not all that great and actually can weaken the immune system -- but some Doctors give out too many -- and actually are more like Quacks! Seek a good doctor, usually like the DO mentioned, that actually knows something more then surgery like most MD's may know. Usually Specialists are more pronounced nowadays, but like anything else -- nothing is 100% actually.

So looking for natural cures when everyone is unique may not even be an answer -- and sometimes it may help. Do not assume! A state of mind may be more important and mentioned as the real first line of defense against diseases. A positive attitude and knowing how to do that first, and what I mentioned is actually more important than perhaps anything else.

Actually look it up, for it is mentioned by Doctors and real Doctors even state that. Yes, natural foods may help, but that changes so frequently anymore -- it is like the next fad. Moderation in everything is the answer.

This advise was in books by professionals and they do know what they are talking and writing about, even if it was sometime back now, but still, these self-help books and tapes (or CD's) probably still exist in a bookstore. There is no quick method to anything, and that is just wishful thinking. Sometimes it just takes some time, and that is what it will take.

And now that I am awake again after being half-awake and half-asleep early this morning when I posted is the "Relaxation Response" as one Dr. Herbert Benson termed it. Others have made cassette tapes (or perhaps CD's now) but I know that also works. What is done is getting into a State of Deep Relaxation which is only for like 20 minutes while listening to a guiding recording tape from a Dr. or something like that. Ah, if you look anything up and read about how some Tibetan Monks or perhaps a monk from India have been buried alive for something like 3-6 days and then dug up (or put into a box for a certain length of time) it was done by them slowing down their heart-rate and obtaining a Deep State of Relaxation. Don't worry if something may happen, you instantly will be able to respond and respond to an emergency. But do not assume that you are superperson after that anyway. Find a nice quiet place where it is dark and you can learn to deeply relax and listen to the guidingl recording tape or disk and learn that it is something that you can learn. Many people could benefit from this -- and not have all the anxiety or stress they want to carry around. They think that they are better off -- and really they are not. Why carry the garbage around in you? Let it go, let the stress go, and learn how you can get rid of stress and what it is really doing to you. It is harming you, and it continually will do that. There is good stress (like perhaps going to a football game or baseball game or basketball game and cheering the team on and whatever but not getting carried away too much but having real fun) and then there is bad stress. Oh, gees the exam is coming up and I did not study enough and she don't like me and what am I going to say and what am I going to do. Hey, if it is going to happen then it probably will happen because the person was not prepared with the mind and it did happen. You made the choice of making that bad report happen. It may have been better if the person had studied more, or if different words were used, or many other possibilities, but then, I don't remember actually anyone who was really harmed when it all did happen. Some other people want to continue all that kind of activity and all of that has a term -- street-talk -- and they really are not Doctors or Professionals but carrying on with the ills of society and what they imagine sometimes what they take in during the day. With the negativity reduction and the deep relaxation and boistering yourself up naturally with getting rest and eating properly -- many problems self-inflicted will simply go away after a brief history of time maintaining yourself to a better state of condition in the first place. Of course there will be variance in anything because as a person you are alive and some times some things will get to you more than at other times, but relax a little more perhaps or do something that will help instead of hinder. The world may end as it is now, and people will continue to do what some others say are weird things, but really it is up to the individual to decide how much it will affect you in the end. Afterall, there is college courses, and there are other activities and other fields of work where you may make a difference in the end, even if it only seems to be a small difference. Some people just get tired of all of it, so like some others -- do go on anyway. What else was there to do -- but be more alive and to live?

Nothing is magic and everything can be thought of as work or a chore or any other number of words all defined in the dictionary. I find the dictionary is sometimes funny also because to define a word they define it with other words and in the end, you still (if you want to) would have to admit -- you still do not really fully understand what is meant by that word - because all you can get is some sort of feeling that you are being dragged around by some invisible chain or by the nose. Quit thinking that way by catching that you are thinking that way, and put everything in perspective. Even the people who lost their homes recently in the California fires have to go on, and so they will. Sometimes it will not be pleasant and sometimes you may get angry about the situation, but really how did it help and why denote yourself when there is always something else to learn and do and eventually get through any Adversity that may come along. This is perhaps what some Cancer Patients have Learned -- and that helped them out the most - beyond the treatments and the levels of pain that everyone usually has gone though. Yes, it would be better to actually teach some real things in school but they do not - and perhaps that would be better -- but still -- now that you know -- do not jump on any bandwagon or train of thought but know that there are methods that may help you out more that other people have not learned, and help out your immune system to ward off diseases and attacks of the psychic. All of it is what life is about in the first place and the priority of anything done is what you place it at -- as a priority. It is your life in the end and it probably will not be perfect. Noone's life has ever been -- perfect. It is not possible, but knowing that you are in control and you have the power and grace to do something about it that is more positive for you in the end - is the best that you can do -- for yourself.

Well for starters very interesting topic

I have read the book and well i think it's obvious that the whole book can be summed up probably in 10 pages or less. Its hard not to judge Kevin T because of his past, but none the less. That doesn't mean he hasn't done the research. and that doesn't meen there is no truth in.

steps to take.
1 eat healthy and whatch what you put in your body.
2 excersice and fast.
3 if you have an ailment, find it, use the natural cure to heal it.



As for doctors not beeing drug pushers, PLEASE. my girlfriend works as a clerk for doctors office. she has represenatives from pharmacuticles come at least once a week to give presentations and free samples for the doctor to use. Now that would be fine if there weren't gifts involved like free tickets to anything, free lunches, etc etc. Now i know that doctors don't make a millions a year. but they do have to prescribe drugs to their patients. how do you think the doctors get paid.?? they get money from insurances that pay for those treatments, visits, drugs etc. so they do get a cut from it(not a killing but enough to live VERY confertably). If there are two Pharma companies fighting for right to prescribe a drug for lets say hiccups. usually the mds will prescribe the one that they get more insurance money from, or more gifts from the Pharma's So there is an ethics conflict. I know that this doesn't apply to all MDs. (my girl friend just gets free birthcontrol pills from her doc that were samples(i hope they are safe and legit)lol because they are expensive).

I live a healthy life style (for the most part) and dont' get sick. i have no ailments. but occasionally i will get a heart burn, acid reflux(maybe once or twice a year). and i can tell you that they are not pleasent. vinigar does help. its aweful when it goes down but within a couple of minutes the discomfort is gone. and it doesn't come back, so i would call that a cure.

but the problem is i should have eaten healthier not eaten rich food that caused the reflux.

and as for curing every disease, probably not possible, ex. how can you cure a person born deformed, retarted with some rare condition. it's not like anything is gonna cure your deformaty(short of surgery). how can one be cured of stage 4 lung cancer, if they have been smoking for 40 years, and then expect some herb to cure them over night. its gonna take months and years, and its just gonna be too late then.

however there are conditions were one can be cured.

many examples from all over the world from all walks of life. so do the best you can do.

Originally posted by Boondock78
i can't believe you are pushing this crap.

yeah, my step father with his CML should stop eating and jump on all your herbal junk eh?

you are passing out horrible advice.
there is nothing wrong with eating well and having good excercise but to imply that people with cancer and such can get better/cured if they do these things, then, well, you're insane....
sorry man



and as to if you got cancer.....

it's easy to say you'd take all this herbal junk and get better, but i would wager that you'd high tail it to the oncology clinic and see whats what.....that would be the smart thing...

if you want to gamble on vaerian root, more power to ya.
i'm gonna tell my step dad to stay on the gleevac

Man, you'd be blown away at the effects of a raw vegan diet. I used to have all sorts of common problems and now I have none. I used to have what seemed to be hip displacement and a bad rotator from swimming, after veganism, that has changed 180. My hip never falls out, my shoulder never comes out of the socket, even when I'm in clutch situation. Raw veganism has been able to cure various forms of cancer and a list of other "non curable" diseases, including diabetes. Don't throw your guard up before you read more into it. There's hope, man, don't let those doctors prescribe your fate, or the fate of your father.

[edit on 1-12-2007 by DeadFlagBlues]

I just learned that ALKA SELTZER fights UTI............(urinary tract infection)

Going to the Doc for UTI can be spendy.............so I think this could be great info.
Next time Im feeling yucky Im going to try this Alka Seltzer trick

Rofl, so...

Which of you [SNIP] is going to supply all the money for all of your tinfoil hats?

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