Alien Race Hierarchy

Originally posted by jfj123
atlantix,
Just curious but how do you know any of this information is accurate of even real?
Are there photos of these races?
audio?
Videos?
Reliable testimony?

The problem with photos is the existence of photoshop, audio is that you can mimic a voice easily, Videos... meh... photoshop, costumes, etc. And people can lie and be even tricked into thinking things, like if someone pulls a prank and the person believes it. Nope, I need good hard evidence... something I can touch/smell/see/taste/hear and know it's real :3

shikoba,
Yes, you're right that direct evidence is the best type.

A do agree that both photos and video could be altered but with new open source software, it has become fairly easy to discredit the frauds.

I guess my point about pictures, video, audio and eye witnesses would be a type of evidence that when researched would either prove credible or not.

Just because someone supplies us with pics, video or audio doesn't mean we should take it as gospel until thoroughly examined and PROVEN genuine.

I see pics and video on various threads here that are obviously fake but still pushed as real. People need to get away from trying to make ET's real by faking evidence.

Research Nick M Chapel

Upon year's of continues research of the UFO phenomina and Bible history i have found along with other reasearcher's that UFO'f and the Bible are closly tiedtogether in relation to the apparent second coming of Chist wich is said to be some time possably in the year 2012 along with other study's on the issue's involving government secrecey involving technology and the UFO phenomina and these are the finding's as follow's:

The UFO phenomina date's back to the history of the bible wich can be found in numorus story's within the Bibleit's self like the story of Jahova and Moses, when the 10 comandment's where handed down from Mount Ci-nide Jahova re appeard with his beard whitend, in current and previos UFO ubductee report's victim's of the ubduction's appeard to have facial hair whitend like they had aged greatly which is also found to happen in cases of radiation being inflicted uppon the human body. UFO Landing sight's have shown high ammount's of radiation left on the ground's suface which in conclusion show's that the following: When Jahova came back down to the eather his beard had been whitend which there fore conclude's that Jahova when he spoke to God infact must have came into contact with a UFO, in other Bible story's like the 40 year teck accross the desert to the Promiss land the men where led by a piller of white smoke or cloud and by night lit up as a pillar of fire, other case's tell of incident's where water was cleard for the men to pass through and the isrialite's were engulfed by the water that was cleard. this there fore could be possable by anti gravitational devices which is common in UFO Technology also known in the field of ufology and back enginearing research.

The purpose behind the ten commandment's and UFO cases where reported UFO incident's have disabled Nuckeler missile's such as the minute man instillation and other numerouse case's not often spoken of by the media but known well within the United State's Government, This meaning that UFO's and alien's are there to protect us not harm us but many people fail to see that as the media of movvie making project upon the genral public, study's show that more than 50% of american citizen's believe in UFO's and alien's and in the near future the anti Chist will reveal him self to the world. The issue here is that when or if the coming of christ does happen and the anti christ appear's the UFO phenomina will be revealed and the people of earth will see God and the alien phenomina as the evil there fore creatiing the dis illusion that christ (being our alien ancestor and guardina) will be protrayed as the evil and the anti christ which in the Bible say's that there will be a dis illusion put forth to people and will losse faith in christ but those who believe and stay strong will survive.

It is important that we do not fall to the false image that may or will be portrayed by those deciever's such as the american government and the masonic scociety's and other evil empires of the world including the vatican who are well aware of the UFO phenomnina and are trying to get the American governmentto postpone the secret agender's revealment in oreder for the Vatican to prepair for the fore coming incident of christ and stick to believing, i myself was blinded when i found out trueth about the UFO phenomina and chose not to believe in Christ but recent study's showed that this was the wrong thing to do and was what is said to happen in the Bible revalation's although it sound's like a case of a Christian finding his faith in God again this is clearly not the case.

So realy when you think about it Aliens and jesus are closly tied together and god most likely is a Alien although we havent found jesus's remains a research team who went on a expodition came very close they found his brother's and sister's and all those linked to his imediate family but they where stoped and the tomb was sealed, ever so close all so sad.

I have been working with many different E.T.s here on earth. Hundreds of varieties are here, maybe even thousands. I do not know the differences in them all but most of them who are here belong to a organization or group; ex. (Ashtar Command). Each group has its own function or missions to accomplish. They tend to work together from Fleets surrounding the earth. Beings can belong to more then one group. Some E.T.s may belong to as many as 300 different groups or more.


[edit on 13-8-2007 by Here Now]

Originally posted by Here Now
I have been working with many different E.T.s here on earth. Hundreds of varieties are here, maybe even thousands. I do not know the differences in them all but most of them who are here belong to a organization or group; ex. (Ashtar Command). Each group has its own function or missions to accomplish. They tend to work together from Fleets surrounding the earth. Beings can belong to more then one group. Some E.T.s may belong to as many as 300 different groups or more.

Thats quite an amazing allegation and really needs a better explanation from you.
Could you get some photos of them or at least introduce someone from ATS to them?
Whereabouts do you work with them?

Originally posted by juggaloco
TYPOGEDDON!

Mate, if you want to communicate your ideas effectively, I seriously recommend installing Firefox 2, which comes with a built-in spell checker

Originally posted by scribe94
Yes, I've studied them all, David Icke, Stewart Swerdlow, Michael Tsarion, Bill Cooper, Al Bieliek, Preston Nichols, Phil Schnieder, David Costello, John Lear, Bob Lazar, Benowitz, Jordan Maxwell, Anthony Hilder the list goes on and on. I can see from a gigantic picture how all these things kinda fit, but it's not clear enough to get a good handle on the whole thing.

Yeah, because all those people just made it up as they went along. Go back to the 1950's and read George Adamski and Howard Menger and you will see the origins of it. It's the same old BS story updated for the modern age.

It blows my mind that people out there are so poorly read, uneducated or just plain gullible that they can fall for these stories.

Humans have been telling each other stories since there were two of us sitting around a campfire. Just because it's in the 'New Age/Conspiracy' section of the bookstore and not the fiction aisle doesn't mean it is real.

Here's a clue. Instead of another conspiracy novel, for your next book try Joseph Campbell's 'The Hero with a Thousand Faces' and learn something about this mythology you 'believe' in.

[edit on 13-8-2007 by morpheus40]

Let me start off by saying that frequency in energy has a big part to play in our lives. Visually most people believe the eyes take in all of what we see. The brain however receives no light yet we can see it. We are always assimilating information at an energetic level and we are able to see beyond third dimensional frequency.
It took me a few years to remove any fears in working with E.T.s. I would have to set my intentions prior to any work, otherwise some rogue group would respond and I would wake up in the night with some 3ft big eye at the end of my bed staring at me.
Whether Pliedian , Sirian ; or from further reaches of our space - all of them seem to have 1 thing in common. That they were here to help us and volunteered to do so. Before I really got too involved with both those Races I was working with races from our own Galaxy. Mainly contacts where happening from Venus (who look like Elves), Jupiter (Beings of Gas), and Larger energetic beings who happened to be passing through but operated from many similar bodies but had one consciousness. Soon to follow I was working speaking with Groups of larger organizations such as the Ashtar Command or White Brotherhood who are a more spiritual mix (Angelic E.T.)
Most all of these encounters were of a higher energetic frequency. They could come down with or without a craft of any type. Most communication was telepathy. If they had a craft in the area the LOW Resonance sound always accompanied them. The crafts could merge with our own dimension. I could lay in bed or sit and watch T.V. and a craft could land and take up the same space as the room i was in. I would be in the room but also in the craft at the same time. They would have all that they needed with them for studying or working. I would often receive work on my Chakras or energy field that allowed me to heighten my abilities soon after. Some of these include working with and creating vortex energy's in the earth or space around the earth. Helping to remove lower energy frequencies from peoples bodies such as cancer.

Proof??
Evidence?
Photos?. films? tapes ?videotapes?
Because if you cant provide any of that, you are blowing in the wind sir.

Much of the worked I participated in did create physical evidence. I was not part of the final process of this work but my friends were. This took place in Ireland and was spear headed by a local Ufologist and was recorded by the BBC U.K. Witnesses observed each event. My understanding is 7 films were created which I never was able to see. At the time your videos would not work in U.S. machines but the success of it all was enough for me. You may know of these films it was on Discovery Channel and Learning Channel. Key name on the Project was Eamon Ansbro.

Originally posted by Here Now
Much of the worked I participated in did create physical evidence. I was not part of the final process of this work but my friends were. This took place in Ireland and was spear headed by a local Ufologist and was recorded by the BBC U.K. Witnesses observed each event. My understanding is 7 films were created which I never was able to see. At the time your videos would not work in U.S. machines but the success of it all was enough for me. You may know of these films it was on Discovery Channel and Learning Channel. Key name on the Project was Eamon Ansbro.

If it was recorded by the BBC some time ago it would have been on betamax tape. Anything recorded by the BBC would be viewable in the UK
I know of no films showing actual 'aliens' or ET's that you stated you have worked with

Yes, these films did not record E.T.s themselves. They recorded UFOs responding to a team on the ground who asked the UFO's to show that they had intelligence behind them. Multiple craft did appear at each of the filmings. I would look for the time frame of '97 - 99

No sir
What interests me is proof of your original statement

"I have been working with many different E.T.s here on earth. Hundreds of varieties are here, maybe even thousands. I do not know the differences in them all but most of them who are here belong to a organization or group; ex. (Ashtar Command). "

The statement above if true is truly astounding. But, can you prove it?.

I have no physcial proof at this time to back up those statements. I could only provide others who could collaborate my work. Your asking me to show you proof of something that our equipment up till now really cant record. As you may know our energetic fields are changing as time quickens. A friend and myself this past year did have a physical meeting. Out of respect we had no electronics on our persons. I have recently been given information to have a 2nd physical meeting. I will ask for 3 things to be allowed. 1. Camera to photograph, 2. Visual photographs of crafts 3. Crafts with E.T.s standing in front. I have seen landings but no equipment is as advanced as our own organic bodies - Mind- Super intelligence. This has been in the works for a decade and may be bit longer then this thread survival. If you wish to have an experience yourself, just ask.

Originally posted by jfj123
atlantix,
Just curious but how do you know any of this information is accurate of even real?
Are there photos of these races?
audio?
Videos?
Reliable testimony?

Whatever evidence I can give you, you will tag it as lies, unreliable, and so on. It doesn't make any sense at all to ask for tangible proof, when it can be so easily faked, and that you are not going to believe in it anyway.


What people don't know is that in our current society, "reliable" more often than not means "offcial"(information from the government), and I would not trust the government to say the truth on this issue. 90% of the "credible" media names take their information directly from the government. Just check the sources of any daily newspapers, and see who is the number one supplier of information.

As for this specific information, I have read from someone who claims he has been in direct contact with the andromedans, and that this is what he was told.

I believe in it because it makes perfect sense with everything else that is being said. Why do human beings look so much like the aliens testimonies talk of? Because they created us from their own DNA. Who are the demons of the bible? The reptilians. Why are the grays abducting people? To repair their broken DNA chain.

If this whole alien thing is a farce, then all the jokers must have meet or something, because it is so very well planned, it all fits together.


And sorry but no, I will not believe that every single testimony is a lie created by ill-intentioned people, that is plainly absurd. Especially when people have careers, families, a reputation. I don't think they would find it very fun to blow it all up just for a laugh, assuming doing that kind of thing would make laugh someone. Furthermore, why would all testimonies, about alien abductions by example, be stunningly so similar? If I was a joker looking to fool some people, I would create a much more extraordinary story than that, why copy the other people's stories? I would get no attention at all, no fun.

You skeptics bemuse me, you just don't get it. If there's people who are illogical on this forum, it is not the "believers".


[edit on 16-8-2007 by Atlantix]

This type of stuff, although I am interested in learning more about it, I find hard to swallow. For it deals with abductions, and communication ect.

I must confess I haven't read the whole thread so maybe there are some official documents surrounding this, but when people start talking about categorizing over 20-40-60 species of known aliens to have visited this earth, and we have only semi hard proff of 1-3.

I just find it hard. People writing these books i sometimes wonder if they aren't in the same category as fortune tellers, and bunk psychics (a.ka. Sylia Brown). As well as false healers in religion looking to make a buck by preying on our fears.

Just be careful, and do as much research as you can before buying any of these people products(books,tapes,dvd's ect.)

Now just wait a damn minute here, lol. Us simple minded folk are still trying to prove that UFO's are real, and here you guys have so much knowledge you can provide a complete listing of "alien hierarchy" I feel bad for all the ufo guys wasting their time, they should just talk to you nuts...I mean seriously astute observers.

Again, it is threads like this that discredit ANYONE who says they believe in UFO's.

Excuse me?

I thought this was the ALIEN & UFO Forum. Alien is included in that title in case you missed it. Also, all ya'lls arguments have been covered already, here's the outcome:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

To sum it up, as long as the op makes it clear that he is sharing his opinions, beliefs or relating from personal experience it is allowed. If however, the op presents it as fact evidence must be given. I believe this thread is derived from the op's personal experiences/opinions.

Note to Here Now: Please share some more fascinating Experiences!

Note to Scribe94: Choose your wording wisely, for example, if you have read a book with an interesting perspective consider using this wording, (Author's name), "His/her opinion is that such and such is the situation; and if you combine it with (different author's name) it fits. Just my observation on this. If so, it could mean etc..etc."

You'll still take flak over the credibility of the authors you have been basing your theories on, once again, choose wisely.

Lol, I feel like an old-timer and I'm not,

Good luck,

STM

[edit on 8/16/2007 by seentoomuch]

Whatever evidence I can give you, you will tag it as lies, unreliable, and so on. It doesn't make any sense at all to ask for tangible proof, when it can be so easily faked, and that you are not going to believe in it anyway.

Big Allegations require big proof.

if you give proof and we dont accept it, you know you are right, and you lose nothing

If you give proof and it is found to be fake, you have lost respect.

So because you dont give proof, i will assume the second of those 2.

Here is the intergalactic hiearchy i have discovered. It was told to me by a good friend of mine, he speaks in my head alot of the time. i call him 'Mr brain'

img.photobucket.com...

i think you'll find it is quite unbiased and based on solid research. All of my finds were discovered while i was meditating in a state of complete non though (ie. I was sitting through a particularily boring uni lecture.)

I was considering the universe and my place in it, and i sketched down the most logical idea which came to me after the meditation. This sketch was then redesigned using a good friend of mine, Mr Paint program

Thank you

Disclaimer: any hate post directed at this image allows me full access and ownership of your car, your house, your firstborn and your soul. If you claim to be one of the aliens in the attached image please contact me with your name, contact details and race so they can be noted and labelled on the aforementioned image.





[edit on 19-8-2007 by Octavius Maximus]

reply to post by Octavius Maximus

Originally posted by Atlantix

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As for this specific information, I have read from someone who claims he has been in direct contact with the andromedans, and that this is what he was told.

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I believe in it because it makes perfect sense with everything else that is being said.

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If this whole alien thing is a farce, then all the jokers must have meet or something, because it is so very well planned, it all fits together.

Evidently Atlantix has read a contact account that he believes. Which is fine, it falls within the guidelines for this forum; though it would be helpful if he included the author's name for us to better understand his Opinion/Belief. According to the guidelines no evidence is required in this case, just discussion of the source/author's credibility and the member's conclusion.

Low wit humor doesn't add anything to the discussion, nada.

STM





[edit on 8/19/2007 by seentoomuch]