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Originally posted by earth2
I dont really care if a person has the right to burn the American flag or not.
If I see someone trying to burn it, especially a foreigner, im going to stop them and I dont really care what the law says.
And if you are a real American you should do the same thing.
The Flag is more than a piece of cotton imo.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
The guy trying to burn the flag should have had his head stomped in..
Originally posted by Boondock78
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my point is, you put a lot of stock in the flag...thats great....that does not give you the right to impose your feelings on others, or from stopping them from displaying their feelings towards the cotton.
why is this so hard to understand?
Originally posted by eyewitness86
MOST countries on this planet do NOT force it's citizens to stand and put their hands on certain parts of their bodies and repeat some verse that intends to promote blind obedience to the powers that be, namely the poltical structure, which we all know is as corrupt as the Cosa Nostra, maybe more so. At least a decent Mafioso will keep the law of OMERTA in place and have some allegiance to family before the State.
When I was in military school all those years, and then the Air Force, I felt a tingle when I saw the flag and heard the martial music; we were a different nation then. Now, we are the chattel for the corporate bosses and their political minions to use and abuse as they wish, spied on, searched and held without cause, rights denied, votes stolen, secrecy at maximum levels, government sponsored terrorism ( see 9-11 ) and on and on.
We are no longer a nation that can hold it's head high and claim moral and legal superiority over anyone else; we murder, we torture, we steal trillions of dollars, we steal whole nations for oil and money.
Who are WE in this day and age to be trumpeting about the high ground to ANY other country? Habeas Corpus, GONE. Privacy rights, GONE. Warrants required before a search or detention, GONE. Giving captured soldiers Red Cross access and respect for the Geneva Conventions, GONE.
WE are the rouge state, WE are the terror sponsors, WE are the nightmare of a looming police state, WE are the nation with NO health care for millions of it's citizens, WE are the premiere producer of nuclear and toxic waste, WE are the nation that says nothing when a Court stops an election and gives it to their cronies, etc.
Anyone who interferes with the burning of a flag, or any other form of political protect, should be arrested and charged with assault, theft and civil rights violations. How DARE anyone go against the CONSTITUTION in the name of the ' flag '!? The Constitution is our only hope, properly comprehended and acted upon; the flag can be changed by Congressional fiat and so is in flux at all times.
Throwing stiff arm salutes or worshipping a piece of cloth may be the way for YOU to express your patriotism, but remember that when you get to Court, it will be the Constitution that defends you, and not the legions of screaming ninnies wailing because their precious piece of cloth was used to promote discussion about political issues.
I do not care if it a Mexican or American or Bosnian or the last cannibal on the Congo, the RIGHT to free expression must NOT be thrown away by the emotional ravings of the flag wavers. To them the law means nothing, the Constitution means nothing, only the satisfaction of base and emotionally bereft desires to act out and appear to be some kind of patriot..so sad.
Originally posted by Implosion
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
The guy trying to burn the flag should have had his head stomped in..
Yes, because we all know that a piece of dyed cloth has more worth than an individual member of the human race.
Originally posted by ninthaxis
There are many, many people who justly hate America. Yet their voice is to be ignored? There are many reasons people can't leave the country even if they so desired.
The guy trying to burn the flag should have had his head stomped in.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
The guy that took the flag called the would be flag burner exactly what he a is... "A bitch!!"" I guarantee you, I want someone to try and burn a flag in front of me... The next thing they would know, their ass would be on fire rather than the flag... Dirty rotten bastards!! This really pisses me off that we have scum in this country that take advantage of everything America gives to them, yet they hate it... Freaking leave!!! You will be doing everyone a freaking favor...
Originally posted by Implosion
Yes, because we all know that a piece of dyed cloth has more worth than an individual member of the human race.
Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth
Probably so,xmotex... This has just always been a touchy spot with me. Even when I was a child I'd cringe when I'd see someone burning the flag, any flag really. However, when it's an American flag, it really hits home for me.
Originally posted by Boondock78
friggin people are unreal