Something is Going Down..

I think Hawk Eye is a government fronter. Look at this way, yesterday on the "Is ATS gov't run/owned?" thread, he was confidently stating that it was not, even though he is new to the Above Network. Now, in my opinion, he is trying to discredit the UFO movement by advancing a weak claim that connects aliens with clouds.

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Did you ever see a top, as it wound down? Did you notice how the "spin" became almost a wobble?

Did you notice how, while it remained upright, it was so out of sync?

Did you ever, in your most wild dreams, see this as the planet we call home?

See? If, and I'm not for sure, but IF, we are looking at this scenario, then it is worth noting.

Never dismiss what you do not know, it may come back to haunt you.

Originally posted by uberarcanist
I think Hawk Eye is a government fronter. Look at this way, yesterday on the "Is ATS gov't run/owned?" thread, he was confidently stating that it was not, even though he is new to the Above Network. Now, in my opinion, he is trying to discredit the UFO movement by advancing a weak claim that connects aliens with clouds.

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Or maybe hes just an idiot... consider all possibilities before jumping to a conclusion.

Originally posted by The_Coo
We should be used to weird weather in the UK , ever since I was a kid at least , the weather was unpredictable , snow and hail in June , torrential rain a few times over the summer etc I dont see nothing different .

I am 20, and i don't think anyone from my generation even knows what its like to have normal weather in the UK..

The weather in the last couple of years though.. something has been changing for a very long time, but only recently are we beginning to see the acceleration of it all. I must admit, the weather at present here in the UK isn't exactly great.. its summer, and its been peeing down with rain for 2 weeks really..some places getting flooded.

My first summer off from uni, finishing really early, and the best weather was YET AGAIN during exam time.. i mean, seriously.. wtf!

Lethal you need to change you tone or you won't be here long. Calling people names isn't nice.

I live in Vegas, and the only thing weird are the people. Weather seems to be Hot like normal. Only thing I notice in the sky are chemtrails, but that's a dif topic.

Originally posted by observe50
Lethal you need to change you tone or you won't be here long. Calling people names isn't nice.

And neither is misleading,deceiving and a scaring easily led/vulnerable people which (no offense) there are alot of here.



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I cant say for the rest of the world, but here in Louisiana weather is typical for this time of year; very hot, wet, and humid. I have noticed that some of the storms we have had have a ton of lightning and bigger thunder hits than what might be normal, of course that could just be my imagination.

I just put the rain down to typical scottish weather..... It always rains here so no big change in the weather folks..... Just more rain than usual maybe...

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
I have to agree, this is the coldest summer I can ever remember here in Alaska. The abnormal weather combined with my heightened sense of awareness to the "global mind" (AKA the collective unconciousness) is definatley calling somthing into fruition.

Actually last year was a tad cooler here in Alaska I think. It may be a bit cooler in the Fairbanks area. Either way it is definitely not warmer.

Back to the OP's comments,

When all the doom and gloom of ATS gets your imaginations working overtime go to the NOAA Site and you can compare weather over the years. That is in the US. I imagine Europe and others have similar sites.

Weird clouds are normal here, so I could not comment on that.

What does weather and clouds have to do with Aliens and UFO's??? I don't see anything in your post to tie it in? Any sources as to the weather being unusual? Where you are how unusual is it compared to the last 100 years of records? Where I am in Alaska it is well within the norm for weather here historically. Is it different where you are?

I'm genuinely interested in this topic, but here in the US the weather is within historical norms for the whole country. In fact if you go back 40 plus years there were much more extreme years than now. I'd expect the trully weird weather changes would happen first in the extreme Southern Climates nearer the South Pole. Any members down that way? Anyone in Argentina?

Originally posted by NGC2736

See? If, and I'm not for sure, but IF, we are looking at this scenario, then it is worth noting.

Never dismiss what you do not know, it may come back to haunt you.

Interesting theory. What are you basing it on. I'm not sure the Top to Earth analogy is a good one though. I believe the physics at play are quit different.

Do you have any data? Is this just a feeling you have or have you actually measured the phenomena and found that the Earths wobble is changing?

This may apply -

Source of quote.
It is a known fact that the rotation of the Earth is gradually slowing. For four and one half billion years, its entire life, it has been slowing down. As the Earth loses its kinetic energy due to all forms of friction acting on it (tides, galactic space dust, etc.) like any other flywheel, it will slow down. From time to time our timekeepers must adjust their super accurate atomic clocks to synchronize them with the Earth's slowing rotation whose day/night cycles we base our lives on.

Scientists estimate that the Earth's rotation is slowing at the rate of 2.2 seconds every 100,000 years. The time it takes the Earth to complete one rotation increases 2.2 seconds every 100,000 years. This is a very conservative figure considering the number of adjustments our timekeepers have been forced to make in recent years. If we trace this phenomenon back in time, whatever the correct figure is, at one point in time it may have taken the Earth 12 hours to complete one rotation, (depending on its initial speed of rotation when it was created.) At that time the Earth was spinning at twice the speed it is traveling at the present time.

Sorry for the derail. Seemed an interesting avenue to explore.

Hawk Eye, you posted a reply in pokey oats' first thread (which has been confirmed as a hoax I might add) regarding what he saw in Texas at 2:08am. You said you were driving outside of Sydney on July 2 and saw something strange over the city. Now you're saying you're on your patio South West of England. Are we to assume you posted in here just before boarding a plane to the UK and then as soon as you landed? The time between comments is approx. 18 hours. It takes a bit longer than that to get from Sydney to the UK, especially considering waiting at the airport, flight time of the first leg of the journey, stop over (Singapore, Malaysia, Hong Kong, wherever), arrival, collecting bags, customs, and the drive home. Seriously, get your stories straight.

I'm on to you Hawk Eye.

I'm telling you, he's a fronter and probably in league with Lear. These people must be exposed before they ruin the forum.

I think most people here posting about weather being "not normal" just havent' paid attention to the weather that much. Weather is all about change and droughts and floods and heatwaves and cold snaps. The only place where weather is fairly constant is in the tropics.

The weather does goe through cycles Like La Nina and El Nino too which swings weather in areas to extremes. Don't hear anyone complaining about the lack of hurricanes yet do you?

Originally posted by pavil
I think most people here posting about weather being "not normal" just havent' paid attention to the weather that much. Weather is all about change and droughts and floods and heatwaves and cold snaps. The only place where weather is fairly constant is in the tropics.

The weather does goe through cycles Like La Nina and El Nino too which swings weather in areas to extremes. Don't hear anyone complaining about the lack of hurricanes yet do you?

Personally I like the variety weather affords. Keeps one on one's toes.

i think for the most part, there is a general lack of knowledge and understanding for what exactly is 'normal' for weather...

...but on the other hand, yes the weather has been more noticably 'strange' as of lately. Probably due to the increased spraying of the 'chem-trails' or whatever you want to call it...

Weather modification IS a real thing for sure. not a theory. which is scary...

Encyclopedia says;
Weather modification:

"As late as the 1890s experiments were conducted in the United States in the hope of producing rain by setting off charges of dynamite lofted by balloons or kites. No positive results were reported, however. More promising were the cloud-seeding experiments of the 1940s, in which silver iodide was released into clouds as smoke or solid carbon dioxide broadcast into clouds…"

"Rainmaking"

"A weather modification technique used mostly to benefit agriculture during dry periods; cloud seeding, developed in 1946, now the leading means of inducing condensation in clouds; one method drops silver iodide crystals into clouds from aircraft or propels them from the ground by generators; another method drops solid carbon dioxide particles into clouds"...

www.pureenergysystems.com...


*Bill S.517
(2) assessments and evaluations of the efficacy of weather modification, both purposeful (including cloud-seeding operations) and inadvertent (including downwind effects and anthropogenic effects). (Ref.)

From Wikipedia;
'Anthropogenic'

"Anthropogenic effects, processes, objects, or materials are those that are derived from human activities, as opposed to those occurring in natural environments without human influences.

The term is often used in the context of environmental externalities in the form of chemical or biological wastes that are produced as by-products of otherwise purposeful human activities. For instance, it is widely believed that the production of carbon dioxide is the primary factor driving anthropogenic climate change."

hmmm...

I'm telling you, he's a fronter and probably in league with Lear. These people must be exposed before they ruin the forum.

Exactly, just have a look at some of his posts & you'll see something amiss. You'll see he also registered on July 2, not long after a few other infamous users were banned.

I've encountered him before, each time he's used a different "bird themed" alias.

He is ATS's own personal antichrist (GR, JFTB; the perpetrator of the infamous "False Flag" hoax). Mark my words.

He's a replicating virus and will be the downfall of this community if he is not banned for good.

Originally posted by LethalDose
OH MY GOD! ITS EL NINO YOU PARANOID IDIOTS! GET EDUCATED!

LethalDose,

Being that I have special ATS extra senses, my extra senses are telling me that you are about to get a warning with the tone your taking. And that if you keep it up you will be banned.

Now play nice in the sandbox.

I live in North Carolina and we're experiencing a "drought" just like the rest of the southern US. That huge storm that came through only brought lightning strikes larger than normal and thunder louder than normal, wind, and barely any rain. I went to Michigan for 2 weeks and i's really hot up there. In fact, it was hotter there than it was here. It should be high 90s for July, and it's not...

I can't trust the weatherman anymore either, because whatever he says doesn't come true! Tons of rain=barely any for some reason.

Originally posted by Blaine91555

I'm genuinely interested in this topic, but here in the US the weather is within historical norms for the whole country.

Umm, no, sorry but it's not normal here in NE Oklahoma.

Wettest June on Record

Wettest June On Record
AP - 7/2/2007 6:56 AM - Updated 7/2/2007 1:32 PM
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) -- Now that June is over, it's official, it was the wettest June in Oklahoma since the state began keeping records in 1895.

Edit to add more info. This is from the Tulsa area, however, the problem is pretty much state wide and there are more listings at the website.

Tulsa District News Releases

A number of Tulsa District reservoirs are expected to approach their flood pool capacity. The status of reportable reservoirs (25% or more into the flood pool) is included on one of attachments and information on recreation impacts is provided on the second. Some significant information by river basin follows:

Verdigris River Basin

Fall River is forecast to crest at 37.6 ft above normal (100% of flood pool) on 3 Jul
Toronto is forecast to crest at 31.1 feet above normal (120% of flood pool) on 3 Jul
Elk City is projected to crest at 35.5 feet above normal (128% of flood pool) on 2 Jul
Big Hill is expected to crest at 7.4 feet above normal (76% of flood pool) on 30 Jun
Hulah is forecast to crest at 33.7 feet above normal (100+% of flood pool) on 1 Jul
Copan is forecast to crest at 22.6 feet above normal (103% of flood pool) on 5 Jul

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